Vibration plates anyone using

Posted by laurie16 @laurie16, Dec 1, 2024

Hi
I’m wondering if anyone is using or has any feedback if vibration plates have helped with bone density /growth
I have osteoporosis and osteopenia
I was looking at Life pro

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Conflict of interest since he - Rubin- profits from Marodyne, at 3k , one of the most expensive out thee. His ads claimed prominently a NASA affiliation . Misleading bec they never used or approved his device. His US based sales people are smarmy. There are less expensive machines that you can adjust to the same specs. Not many, but they do exist.

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@persa can you tell me what the brand names are that are cheaper and can be adjusted to same specs?

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https://shop.vibrationtherapeutic.com/
He used to sell on Amazon. This is his own site. Lots of straightforward info that is worth a read even if you don’t go with his product. Very ethical. Responsive. Discouraged me from buying because of possibility that it would compromise the structure i was living in. This unit can be programmed like the marodyne but also can accommodate a more intense workout. Good luck. Not sure about present but he used to be available to answer questions directly.

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https://shop.vibrationtherapeutic.com/
He used to sell on Amazon. This is his own site. Lots of straightforward info that is worth a read even if you don’t go with his product. Very ethical. Responsive. Discouraged me from buying because of possibility that it would compromise the structure i was living in. This unit can be programmed like the marodyne but also can accommodate a more intense workout. Good luck. Not sure about present but he used to be available to answer questions directly.

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@persa thank you!

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Conflict of interest since he - Rubin- profits from Marodyne, at 3k , one of the most expensive out thee. His ads claimed prominently a NASA affiliation . Misleading bec they never used or approved his device. His US based sales people are smarmy. There are less expensive machines that you can adjust to the same specs. Not many, but they do exist.

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@persa, Hi. Do you know which US sales Organisation for Marodyne you were dealing with?

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Some guy in FL, British accent.

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@mcallister1002

I forgot to add -
Your endo remarks about collagen being a waste of
money.
She may have a point.
As far as I know - the favorable clinical studies on Collagen were
based on Gelita (German). manufacturer of Fortibone (and more)
It is so difficult to find clinical studies that do not
have vested interests.
Look the clinical studies and take
into consideration the researchers - their connection to the
product - and compensations.

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@bevlevvancouverbc -For about 8 months, I included collagen with fortibone, fortigel and ???? in my daily cappuccino. Gelato patented ingredients are specified in product. I can’t speak to bone effects, as my health plan is unwilling to do periodic dexa scans unless I am willing to take pharmaceutical bone density options.

I can definitely share improvements clearly observed in fingernails. For several years, Nails were pealing in layers and cracking daily. I have real fingernails now, that continued to grow during 6 weeks of chemo radiation. Also hair loss from chemo didn’t seem to be as bad as I expected. Hair loss is more subjective as chemo for my treatment causes up to 50% hair loss, but I am very happy with fingernails and hope hip and tail bones didn’t deteriorate too much from radiation (and chemo).

Hope my observations help.

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I am using a vibration plate for a different reason (spasticity) but I also have osteoporosis so am hoping it will work for both. For spasticity there is a very specific frequency that must be used and the cheaper models don’t have it. Some have a very big range of frequencies, so best to know what the best frequency for osteoporosis is. I pulled this off of AI

Key Frequency Guidelines
• Lower frequencies (20–50 Hz) are considered beneficial for bone growth stimulation and osteoporosis management.[wellnessprofessionalsinc]
• Higher frequencies (50–100 Hz) are mainly beneficial for improving muscle strength and balance, not bone density.[wellnessprofessionalsinc]
• Clinical trials have used frequencies such as 30 Hz with positive outcomes for lumbar spine bone density, typically for five minutes, three times a week.[pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih]
• Gradual increases in exposure (starting with shorter sessions at lower frequencies and progressing with time) are commonly practiced for both efficacy and safety.[pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih]
Safety and Clinical Advice
• Amplitudes and session durations should be tailored individually and overseen by a healthcare provider, especially in older adults with osteoporosis, to avoid excessive stress on brittle bones.[healthline]
• It is important to consult a healthcare professional before starting vibration therapy for osteoporosis, as not all patients are suitable candidates for this modality due to potential contraindications.

Also, while doing my research I learned that on a regular floor, the vibration can actually pull the nails out the the frame of a typical house. Even with the thick mat you can buy to put underneath.

Not much is written about the amplitude, my PT didn’t know, so I just go with the amplitude on the machine in my PTs office which is a Galileo

Best to use on concrete. I have mine in the garage. Not ideal, for sure, but I want my house to last.

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to @persa

Your comments are clear and concise.

Hopefully more members will do their own research
before spending their hard earned monies.

It is frontier wild west out there LOL
Any nutrient, any supplement should be rigorously
researched: it is painstaking, bewildering and
takes up time, but absolutely necessary.

There is no comment or advice on this forum which
will be a magic bullet, it is a guidepost to begin
your own question and answer search.

collagen is an example: I spent months researching
the different types: hydrolized, denatured versus
native, which type benefits bone formation better,
marine vs bovine, what brand, what format, amount.
which are certified by good health practices, GMP
or other.
A month ago, as I was getting closer to deciding
what to buy:
I came across a report that collagen will add to breast density,
which vexed me. I have dense breast.
I asked a nutritionist I work with, to verify this
information. She found studies that confirm this.
If you have dense breast, this should be something to
consider before taking collagen.
The other alternative - I now need to investigate is
creatine.
Will it do more or less what collagen does, for bone
formation - with
certain circumstances, for example exercize.
For people with sensitive gut, (I have IBS)
creatine might be a challenge.
Dr. Patrick and Dr Stacy Simms: both
advocate strongly for creatine for women and
Omega 3.

As you say in your comments, Persa, when you
are doing complementary activities or supplements,
how do you know which is helping.

I wrote a few months ago, that I was not taking any
drugs in spite of 'severe osteoporosis' and concentrated
on diet and moderate exercize.
My dexa after a year were:
spine improved 5.6%
hips improved 6.4%

Moderate: no jumping, no heavy weights.
I realize some people have physical limitations, some
are unable to do much exercize.
But small increment, done persistently overtime,
will yield some good results.

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@bevlevvancouverbc
One resource I find helpful and reliable is "ConsumerLab.com" Sure hope that helps. They check supplements and minerals etc. to make sure they contain what they say they do, no dangerous materials, and are third party tested. They also make sure they compare cost per tablet or capsule, to make sure you buy the most economical. It really is an excellent source of information.

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