Downsizing, To Move or Not to Move? That is the Question

Posted by Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor @rosemarya, Apr 12, 2020

At some point as we age, we will have to make a decision about leaving our homes and downsizing. Maybe in our own town or to another town. Maybe to smaller home, condo, apartment, or assisted living/senior community.

When the time comes to downsize, seniors can struggle with a multitude of emotional, physical, and financial challenges.

How do you make an informed decision about when to downsize?
What tips do you have to share?

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I am 79 so I do see these issues come up with my older friends. Personally, I would prefer to live at home with a caregiver, if necessary. But from what I have seen with my friends, the most successful arrangement is having a caregiver who DRIVES! The caregiver who drives can take you to social functions, doctor’s appointments, to get groceries, to the pool and/or exercise classes, physical therapy, or even for a drive on a pleasant day or to see a movie! It is a more successful arrangement for you and for the caretaker! Good luck!

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Profile picture for thisismarilynb @thisismarilynb

I was 87 when my husband died. Shortly after I had to have a complete hip replacement because I wore it out. Now I am 91 and still independent and still living in our home. I did do some due diligence by visiting two facilities that advertised independent and assisted living. I looked at the independent apartments. I found them to be small and confining. I questioned whether they could provide the care they advertised. These places are run by corporations who only focus on the bottom line. They pay minimum wage so I wonder about the people they hire who have to look after older people, most of whom are not as fortunate as I am healthwise. So I decided to remain in my own home. I am building up a "slush fund" so that if I do become incapacitated before I die I will hire caregivers to come to my home where I am comfortable and have my own things around me.

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@thisismarilynb
Sounds like a good plan. Husband took a turn in his health & everyone was convincing me to move closer to them. Now I am wondering if this is a good idea. Still trying to figure it out. Good luck! What ever you choose to do it is yours. You can always change your mind.

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Profile picture for mrmj @mrmj

@isadora2021 thanks for your understanding and opinion. Your father is blessed to have family that is taking turns caring for him. My Mom is off and on health wise, but sometimes I'm not sure if it's more emotional than physical. The Assisted living facility has a full calendar of social events and entertainment, which my Mom enjoyed for a while, but she's so focused on returning home and looks for things to complain about.
You bring up another point about having having all their money in tied up in the house. I've considered looking into a Reveres Mortgage so she can use the equity in her home as she needs it, or get a HELOC (Home Equity Line of credit) that she can use as needed with a low interest rate of 5.99%. The level 3 care at the Assisted living facility is extremely expensive and could run out quicker than if she returned home, and have a live in caregiver that lives there practically rent free in exchange for the care, or even gets paid very little as caregiver.
From what I can seen about the reputable Reverse mortgage lenders, it seems to be a good option.

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@mrmj There are so many things to consider financially with the home and hiring a caregiver. Have you sat down with pencil and pad to formulate a spending plan/budget that takes into consideration all the costs in keeping up the home itself and then all the medical costs and that of a caregiver, especially if you are considering a reverse mortgage. The reverse mortgage is not always what it is hoped to be so be sure you understand all the costs and the time frame you are projecting out, in terms of years ahead and the actual costs. How long will such a budget be needed for (that's a hard one) and especially with increases in costs that always happen.
I, myself, have several times sat down with pencil and pad with two columns to see a comparison of costs. One column for living at home with costs and the other in a facility and costs. For now at 83 and good health, I'm staying put in my ranch home, small community and my ability to get around easily, and sure footed, with my two feet and my car for getting what I need.
Hopefully when needed it will be a short time for me if I have to go into a facility....none are what we want them to be for various reasons.
Also, hopefully, caregivers in the home are honest, truly caring people and stay for the duration for the time they are needed.
Barbara

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I agree that reverse mortgages are VERY tricky and I’d carefully consider other options before that.

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Profile picture for mrmj @mrmj

I also haven't mentioned the issues with the care at this high end Assisted living facility, such as my Mom falling 3 times in the first 2 weeks, and nobody showing up after she pressed the call button. Thankfully she got up on her own, with only bruising. There's also been other issues with the medications etc, but I imagine there will be issues in every assisted living facility, no matter how nice or expensive. She hasn't had any issues with falling now that she's familiar.

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@mrmj As someone who is on the list to move into a retirement community specifically because it provides a continuum of care, let me offer:

Who has agency here? In other words, whose decision is this, really? This is a tricky question if your mom is well into dementia. If her issues are entirely or mostly physical, however, it seems to me that it's her choice to make. If she makes an unsafe choice, still hers. If she regrets it later, still hers. If you itch to say "I told you so" later, still hers.

I was the lead remote caregiver for both of my parents before they died, both of dementia, and the only decision I now regret was how long I delayed shifting entirely to palliative care. The rest of it was basically their choices, right or wrong. When my mother hit end-stage dementia, we still tried to make the choices she would have made, based on the person she was when she still had the ability to speak. Could my parents have lived longer if I and my sister and our two step-siblings had made different choices? Maybe. Would they have been happier? I doubt it.

When did we decide that we should treat the elderly as if they are toddlers?

A few practical observations:
-- We had frequent family conference calls, so we were all up to date, which also gave us an opportunity to discuss what was going on. My mother was not on those calls, which left us able to have difficult conversations.

-- None of us cared how much money was left in the end. We all agreed that the point was that it was theirs and for them to burn it. If that isn't true for you, you have another challenge.

-- It is fair to ask her how she plans to ensure she has the help she needs around the house. It is also fair not to let her decide that the solution is for one of you to move in or be over constantly. You have agency, too.

-- Someone needs to have legal authority to make financial and health decisions if and when her doctor decides she is no longer capable of doing so. Those two people need to hold themselves accountable for staying informed, and need to be given the rights and authority to do so. In my case, health decisions were less of a problem than financial decisions, because my mother prided herself on her financial acuity and was unwilling to let go of the reins. But we got through it after she started regularly bouncing checks, with the help of her financial advisor and some understanding bank staff. Whoever backstops each of these functions needs to keep in mind her agency, which is easier if she sees them as supportive and helpful rather than people who cannot be trusted. This can be a problem if the person she wants to delegate each of these responsibilities to is not the person who feels they should have been chosen. It might be helpful to encourage her to confide her choices to a friend, who can have the conversation with the kids. The right friend (or religious leader, or social worker) can be a good facilitator.

-- She will make mistakes and bad choices, because don't we all? If she continues to trust all of you, though, she will come to you for help. If she starts distrusting you (because, for example, you have taken away her control over her life), she won't. Is that better or worse than the consequences of taking control from her? Do you want to be mostly the police and warden, or mostly her children?

-- She may find that one of the mistakes she makes is to isolate herself. You have every right not to own that choice. If she wants to live in a bubble and tries to drag you into it, thereby cutting you off from your own life, don't let her. You don't own her bad choices any more than you own her good choices. That's what agency is about.

-- We all need to die from something, sometime. I would personally rather die (or break a hip) while still in charge of my life, even if it means I die earlier. So tired of quantity of life being valued over quality of life.

Finally: There is no good solution for quality of care, because we have run out of people who want to do this work for what we are willing to pay them. In the end, my father was cared for in an institution, and we paid someone to oversee my mother's care when we hit the stage of 24/7 assistance -- in fact, if she or one of you can afford it, there is an entire profession of people whose job it is to act as independent oversight of care. But both of them lived in the tri-state area and died a decade ago. There is no way on earth my husband and I can expect equivalent home care in upstate New York today. So all you can do is all you can do. (It helps, I'm sure, to be rich. But then, it mostly does.)

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This situation is more complex and not quite the same, but has anyone dealt with the decision of weather or not to move their elderly (86 year old) widowed mother who's suffered a stroke, from Level 3 assisted living, back into her huge 2 story family home which needs the first floor remodeled so she can possibly live at home with a caregiver? My mother uses a walker and her left hand isn't very functional, but she's making progress and is very determined to return to her home of over 55 years. Our big family is very divided on what to do, and concerned about her care in the long term. I have mixed feelings, but hope to get a better opinion when she switches to a more comprehensive therapy program. In the meantime her solid beautiful old house in a great location has buyers licking their chops, while an out of town sibling is offering to buy the house a little below market, and promises to pay for remodeling the house and provide care for rest of my Mom's life.

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@mrmj
I had the same problem BUT eventually my Mom got lonely at home and decided she wanted an apartment in assisted living. She loved it, all the activities and most importantly new friends.

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Profile picture for thisismarilynb @thisismarilynb

I was 87 when my husband died. Shortly after I had to have a complete hip replacement because I wore it out. Now I am 91 and still independent and still living in our home. I did do some due diligence by visiting two facilities that advertised independent and assisted living. I looked at the independent apartments. I found them to be small and confining. I questioned whether they could provide the care they advertised. These places are run by corporations who only focus on the bottom line. They pay minimum wage so I wonder about the people they hire who have to look after older people, most of whom are not as fortunate as I am healthwise. So I decided to remain in my own home. I am building up a "slush fund" so that if I do become incapacitated before I die I will hire caregivers to come to my home where I am comfortable and have my own things around me.

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@thisismarilynb I with you. I am 80 and my wife is getting there soon. We currently live in a 2500 sq ft house, a pool, a 3 car garage, a boat, etc. Our plan is to move into a 55 and over condo (way over for us) 1700 sq ft, 2 car garage, no boat in 3-5 years. You are spot on about finding a better solution than what you have come up with in assisted living. I don't want to be a burden to our three children and I don't want them to treat us like toddlers. If necessary I will follow the path George Eastman took.

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Letting go of family memories is one of the hardest things for me. Things that mean something to me but maybe (probably) don’t to my nieces and grandnieces and grandnephews. They never got to meet my parents or my aunts and uncles or my grandparents so a lot of what I see as irreplaceable memorabilia is just stuff to them.
I need to downsize and am doing a lot of that, but I can’t throw away things that (probably) aren’t donate-able, like my Aunt Mickey’s bandanas.
How do you deal with saying good bye to something that is precious to you but not to the rest of the family?

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Profile picture for hicopd @hicopd

I agree that reverse mortgages are VERY tricky and I’d carefully consider other options before that.

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@hicopd, I think they’re great if you don’t want to leave your house to someone.

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