Anyone dealing with long-term dysphagia and chronic cough?

Posted by americanfurn65 @americanfurn65, May 29, 2024

Asking for my husband who is 61 and 12 years post chemo/radiation for stage IV scc base of tongue w/lymph node involvement. He is now dealing with the long term side effects mainly dysphasia and chronic cough. Asking for any others who have dealt with the cough and what may have worked. He is working closely with his ENT who currently has him on 1200
Mg of gabapentin for possible neurogenic cough; antihistimine regimen as he has the “wet” cough. He has had injections in the larynx area, he has a paralyzed vocal cord. He has had his esophagus stretched. He also has dealt with a couple of bouts with aspiration pneumonia.

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@njbay The dysphagia will obviously never go away, but I do think the exercises help. So, staying aware of what I can eat and how I can eat is important. I attached a pdf of the exercises I do.

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@jcl2018 Thanks for the pdf. I was reminded of Jack La Lane's exercise routine for the neck.

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@njbay The dysphagia will obviously never go away, but I do think the exercises help. So, staying aware of what I can eat and how I can eat is important. I attached a pdf of the exercises I do.

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@jcl2018 Thank you, and I'm happy to hear that it helped you ! I will pass it along to him.

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I assume that he has been evaluated for esophageal strictures. If so, strictures can be treated with repeated dilations. Unfortunately, post radiation induced fibrosis is an ongoing process. Increased fibrotic tissue may oft times form adhesion and entrapment of the neck and throat musculoskeletal elements and their innervation that may impair the oral, pharyngeal and esophageal phases of deglutition (swallowing).
Swallowing exercises may be helpful depending upon the severity of fibrosis.
I've had MS related achalasia for > 30 yrs which has been further complicated by my diagnosis and aggressive treatment of stage 4 squamous cell esophageal carcinoma.
I developed sever post radiation fibrosis and stricture formations that rendered me non-PO for liquids and solids. I had G-tube placed 3 yrs ago and it markedly improved my nutritional and hydration status. I was able to regain weight from 122 to 162 lbs over several months and have maintained that weight ever sense.

I was able to find a thoracic surgeon who was able to successfully dilate my esophageal strictures to allow to me to eat and drink again. I have repeat dilations every 3 months.
I still have my G-tube in place to use when I become progressively dysphagic between dilations.

I am also fortunate that one of my daughters is a speech language pathologist who specializes in swallowing disorders associated with strokes, TBIs and cancer. She has assisted/ instructed me with various effective swallowing exercises.

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@davidwrenn I'm so sorry that you've had to go through that as well. He was checked for esophageal strictures, and actually had his entire GI tract checked, including his stomach. He was referred to a gastroenterologist, who thought ulcers might be causing the pain. They told him had a few tiny stomach ulcers, but my father said he never had any symptoms of ulcers. Anyway, he prescribed him sort of thick liquid to squirt into his throat while eating, but dad said it didn't help at all, and it's very expensive. He's also had some other tests , though I don't recall what they are called,

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@steve55
I have a PEG MicKey button with a tube that I attach when taking Nutren 2.0 500 kcal each. It lies flat against my stomach. I have regained weight in prep for a new surgery. I work 3 days a week, physically demanding, walk the dog, attend grand kids' events, visit daughter in another state. I take my pills 2x/day with a hot, weak flavored coffee which makes it easier to swallow them. It also tastes good and eases pains in jaw.

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Thanks for the info on the MicKey button. You seem to have a positive handle on things. Do you have the ability to go to a restaurant and or travel and stay at a hotel? This is what I have a difficult time understanding and would think I would have to give up it all up.

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Profile picture for davidwrenn @davidwrenn

I assume that he has been evaluated for esophageal strictures. If so, strictures can be treated with repeated dilations. Unfortunately, post radiation induced fibrosis is an ongoing process. Increased fibrotic tissue may oft times form adhesion and entrapment of the neck and throat musculoskeletal elements and their innervation that may impair the oral, pharyngeal and esophageal phases of deglutition (swallowing).
Swallowing exercises may be helpful depending upon the severity of fibrosis.
I've had MS related achalasia for > 30 yrs which has been further complicated by my diagnosis and aggressive treatment of stage 4 squamous cell esophageal carcinoma.
I developed sever post radiation fibrosis and stricture formations that rendered me non-PO for liquids and solids. I had G-tube placed 3 yrs ago and it markedly improved my nutritional and hydration status. I was able to regain weight from 122 to 162 lbs over several months and have maintained that weight ever sense.

I was able to find a thoracic surgeon who was able to successfully dilate my esophageal strictures to allow to me to eat and drink again. I have repeat dilations every 3 months.
I still have my G-tube in place to use when I become progressively dysphagic between dilations.

I am also fortunate that one of my daughters is a speech language pathologist who specializes in swallowing disorders associated with strokes, TBIs and cancer. She has assisted/ instructed me with various effective swallowing exercises.

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I too started with dilation with a thoracic surgeon. I’ve had two with little improvement. I have a third scheduled for next month. Was yours successful the first time or did you need to repeat to get where you are today?

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I am from South Jersey. Treated in 2008 and also have dysphagia, neck arthritis, etc. I was treated at Jefferson and my surgeon retired a few years ago. Unfortunately, I don't have any recommendations of Drs. to see. In discussing with my new Dr. in the Jefferson group, there is a general knowledge that dysphagia happens, but not much in terms of treatment. Courses of action (studied and recommended by Drs.) are not prevalent.

In saying that, I do swallowing and neck exercises every day. And, as I'm sure your father knows..... eat small pieces; have the liquid ready. Realize meals will take longer than normal to finish. My wife finishes her meals and I'm only 1/3 to 1/2 way through my first plate. Sometimes I get impatient, rush and then get food stuck in my throat. Or I don't get a second helping because everyone else is finished and I don't want to delay them. We also have to get into a self preservation mode.

I have found I'm better with meals early in the day. Also, talking during meals doesn't help (breath out during talking seems to be counter to getting food down the other way). Smaller meals. Maybe 5 "meals" a day vs 3.

Last, even though we all had some form of throat cancer and treatment in common, we're all different regarding overall health and how the side effects affect us.

Sorry to drone on. I do have my annual follow up at Jefferson in the next few weeks and will do some probing. I'll post again if I gather new information on long term support. And certainly, look for input from blogs like this. They help confirm what we experience as survivors is somewhat common in a general sense and helpful hints are listed.

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@jcl2018
Hear you ... I was treated for nasopharyngeal cancer in 2006, and in 2020 I was diagnosed with late effects of HNC radiation - i.e. dysarthria, dysphagia and severe neck fibrosis.
I avoid eating out in public - for fear of choking and having to cough out or spit out food in public; also avoid talking when eating; have to take my food in small bits and pieces and also having my food "mushy-like" helps in swallowing.
I do my daily jaw and neck exercises (not sure if it helps, but doing the best I can), and also go for therapy (myofascial) treatments every other week - again, not sure if it help - but doing the best I can to keep my situation from deteriorating.
Recently, I have been referred to try a palatal obturator - any input or feedback on this?
Take care!

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@jcl2018
Hear you ... I was treated for nasopharyngeal cancer in 2006, and in 2020 I was diagnosed with late effects of HNC radiation - i.e. dysarthria, dysphagia and severe neck fibrosis.
I avoid eating out in public - for fear of choking and having to cough out or spit out food in public; also avoid talking when eating; have to take my food in small bits and pieces and also having my food "mushy-like" helps in swallowing.
I do my daily jaw and neck exercises (not sure if it helps, but doing the best I can), and also go for therapy (myofascial) treatments every other week - again, not sure if it help - but doing the best I can to keep my situation from deteriorating.
Recently, I have been referred to try a palatal obturator - any input or feedback on this?
Take care!

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@josk No feedback on palatal obturator. Never heard of it till your note.

If you try, let me know.

Thanks

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I experienced a different sort of problem years after my cancer treatment in 2006. I spent $4,500, seeing multiple doctors, trying to get a diagnosis, which ended up being baroreflex failure. It's been a roller coaster ride trying to sort that out over the past 8 years. Don't let your father give up on getting answers. The incidence of this cancer is on the rise, and someone out there is probably experiencing the same thing, and they may even have some answers. Good luck!

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@56tburd
I had radiation and chemotherapy for SCC base of tongue about 16 years ago. The radiation resulted in a series of side effects which have compromised my quality of life. Aside from the short term side effects of mouth sores, loss of taste and trismus, I had long term side effects that were detrimental. I experienced loss of bone due to osteoradionecrosis of the jaw and loss of a few teeth, xerostomia (dry mouth), esophageal stenosis from scar tissue resulting in dysphagia and a feeding tube dependency for nutrition and hydration, Radiation Induced Brachial Plexopathy (RIBP) and significant loss of function, strength and increasing numbness of my left side hand, arm, shoulder and neck. More recently an episode of Bell's Palsy treated by administration of prednisone, resulted in atrial flutter which eventually was relieved by electroversion and ablation. However, nagging symptoms of dizziness and syncope continued especially with postural changes (orthostatic hypotension) from sitting or lying to standing. After experiencing frequent falls and extraordinarily low blood pressure and sometimes very high blood pressure, I was able to see a neurologist at Mayo Clinic and after 4 days of testing the diagnosis was Baroreflex Failure. It was the first time I heard of this problem, but it is the most debilitating because it is challenging to treat and almost impossible to normalize my blood pressure. I take a small dose of medication to raise my blood pressure in the morning along with another short acting medication as needed, but usually just once in the morning as that is when my symptoms of low blood pressure, dizziness and fatigue are most common. You are the first person that I have heard of who has this side effect but if I had not gone to Mayo for a diagnosis, I would be struggling more than I am now. My new "normal" isn't great but it is comforting to at least know the cause of my symptoms and get partial relief. These things that appear many years after radiation therapy like Radiation Induced Brachial Plexopathy (RINB) and Baroreflex Failure can be difficult to diagnose as their onset is so far from the cause. Orthopedic specialists were convinced that my problem with my arm and hand numbness was related to a C6 nerve problem or carpal tunnel problem. Even though there is no cure, the diagnosis is important to prevent going through unnecessary surgeries or treatments. Thank you for your post. All good wishes.

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@56tburd
I had radiation and chemotherapy for SCC base of tongue about 16 years ago. The radiation resulted in a series of side effects which have compromised my quality of life. Aside from the short term side effects of mouth sores, loss of taste and trismus, I had long term side effects that were detrimental. I experienced loss of bone due to osteoradionecrosis of the jaw and loss of a few teeth, xerostomia (dry mouth), esophageal stenosis from scar tissue resulting in dysphagia and a feeding tube dependency for nutrition and hydration, Radiation Induced Brachial Plexopathy (RIBP) and significant loss of function, strength and increasing numbness of my left side hand, arm, shoulder and neck. More recently an episode of Bell's Palsy treated by administration of prednisone, resulted in atrial flutter which eventually was relieved by electroversion and ablation. However, nagging symptoms of dizziness and syncope continued especially with postural changes (orthostatic hypotension) from sitting or lying to standing. After experiencing frequent falls and extraordinarily low blood pressure and sometimes very high blood pressure, I was able to see a neurologist at Mayo Clinic and after 4 days of testing the diagnosis was Baroreflex Failure. It was the first time I heard of this problem, but it is the most debilitating because it is challenging to treat and almost impossible to normalize my blood pressure. I take a small dose of medication to raise my blood pressure in the morning along with another short acting medication as needed, but usually just once in the morning as that is when my symptoms of low blood pressure, dizziness and fatigue are most common. You are the first person that I have heard of who has this side effect but if I had not gone to Mayo for a diagnosis, I would be struggling more than I am now. My new "normal" isn't great but it is comforting to at least know the cause of my symptoms and get partial relief. These things that appear many years after radiation therapy like Radiation Induced Brachial Plexopathy (RINB) and Baroreflex Failure can be difficult to diagnose as their onset is so far from the cause. Orthopedic specialists were convinced that my problem with my arm and hand numbness was related to a C6 nerve problem or carpal tunnel problem. Even though there is no cure, the diagnosis is important to prevent going through unnecessary surgeries or treatments. Thank you for your post. All good wishes.

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@hillx001 I'm sorry to hear that it has been so difficult for you. I have suffered many of the same symptoms, but I count myself blessed that I haven't experiences many of the things I've read about here. My searches have found there is little guidance for treatment of Baroreflex failure. There is no cure, only managing for quality of life. It was an emergency room visit that made me aware of the damage hypertension had done. It's been 8 years of trying to find the right combination of drugs to reduce the swings in BP. I now take Labetalol (400mg) in the evening just before bedtime to deal with supine hypertension and Midodrine (5mg) as needed during the day to deal with the hypotension. This has provided some relief. Initially, the BP meds were causing syncope, falls and fainting. I monitor my BP as needed, usually indicated by symptoms. I still experience crisis level hypertension, but Clonidine (0.1mg) brings it down quickly. Only a few times have I needed to increase the dose. Oddly enough, I experience an increase in hypertension events about the 3rd week of the month. I also found that traveling can trigger in increase. I just keep reminding myself that I'm still here and have gotten to enjoy living next door to my four grandchildren. I wish you well.

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My father has dysphagia, which was caused by neck radiation 30 years ago. I guess it's come on over the past 5 years or so. He started coughing a lot and started having problems swallowing his food and pills. More recently, it's become much worse to the point that he has severe pain in the side of his throat/neck almost all the time. He can't eat much and has lot a bunch of weight. He is 6'1" and is down to 132 lbs!!!!!

His former surgeon isn't around anymore, so he finally went to a new ENT, who sent him for all sorts of tests. He was checked to make sure there was no new cancer and was cleared of that. His ENT told him his pain is probably due to some fibrosis and suggested that he take Tyelnol or ibuprofen. He was already trying to take them , but couldn't swallow them.

The ENT also referred him to a gastroenterologist, who said my dad has a few very tiny stomach ulcers. My dad said he never had any symptoms of ulcers, only side effects of radiation treatment. But the Gastro prescribed him some sort of very expensive and bad tasting liquid to take right before he eats. It's supposed to coat his stomach, but it hasn't been helping him at all.

I am getting very concerned by how much weight he lost, and he seems to be getting depressed about it.

Does anyone have any advice or know of any Doctors in New Jersey who might be able to help him?

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Thank you for your informative post. I have had the occasional episode of extremely high blood pressure (246/140) but most of the time my blood pressure is low (80/50 or slightly lower). When I am sitting in a chair, I feel completely normal, but if I get up to walk to another room, I get dizzy and sometimes pass out and wake up moments later on the floor. At night if I get up and in the early morning, my symptoms are the worst (low blood pressure and extreme fatigue. I am taking a small dose of fludrocortisone or Florinef 0.5mg/day and Midrodine 2.5mg/day and as needed. I had been prescribed Midrodine three times a day with the last dose to be taken at least 4 hours before bedtime but it seemed to result in more frequent episodes of the extreme hypertension, so now I rarely take more than the one pill in the morning. I forgot to mention in my earlier post that I have acquired hypothyroidism following radiation and take Levothroxine 75 mcg/day to treat that. I was also diagnosed with type 2 diabetes about three years ago and I have lost 60 lbs. since then and I have lost a significant amount of my strength as well. Most of the weight loss was intentional while trying to eliminate sugar and carbs from my diet, in order to get my blood sugar level back to near normal. Some of the recent weight loss is due to the feeding tube, which seems to be stable now. Admittedly, I have a hard time staying as hydrated as I should and I need to make more effort to do so. Using a syringe to pump 2 oz. at a time, it is difficult to get enough each day and I tend to shortchange myself on water intake.
All good wishes to you.

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