Anyone lost the ability to walk due to peripheral neuropathy?

Posted by rjack6618 @rjack6618, May 25 11:12am

Has anyone in the group lost the ability to walk from peripheral neuropathy in both lower legs? If so were you able to regain the ability to walk and if so how did you do that?

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Thank you Ray for understanding my frustration. I don’t claim to know more than the doctor but all I know is how strong I feel when I get the injections. My lower legs feel stronger too. I just think it would be worth a try to replace my knees. It can’t make things worse in my opinion.

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I agree. I believe the answer to better balance is stronger legs, but my ability to build stronger legs is limited if not made downright impossible by my problematic knees, my left knee especially, which is rife with arthritis.

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I’m 76 so maybe it is my age. I do trust my doctor that does the injections but I have thought about getting a second opinion. I’m scheduled to get my injections on November 12. I am going to ask the doctor to reconsider knee replacement. I did have major back surgery in 2021. Not only did the surgery not make that issue better it’s actually worse. And the neuropathy started after that surgery. That surgeon said it would go away but it didn’t. I was ok as far as walking until the fall of last year. At that time I was working part time at a golf course mowing the roughs. Heck I could even play golf. But last fall I had to quit the job and that’s when my legs got so weak and my knees were buckling and then I was falling 2or 3 times a week. So now I’m using a walker to get around the house a little and when we go out my wife pushes me around in a transport chair.

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Have you had any injections of hyaluronic acid in your knees or taken hyaluronic acid tablets?
I take the tablets. Have bone on bone knee arthritis and no knee pain….

I may be the oddity with this but the tablets are worth a try….

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@rjack6618
I can relate with the limited quality of life.

You need a new hip/knee orthopedic specialist to evaluate your knees. There is no such thing as neuropathy “going away” before an orthopedic surgeon does surgery. I have neuropathy and have had 3 spine surgeries and carpal tunnel surgery. I am in my mid 50s. Do you think you are being dismissed due to age?

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Alot of times they won't touch you until you have lost weight, because they want a successful surgery. They get followed and want the percentage to be favorable. So if your very overweight, surgery won't be as successful.

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Yes I have had all the tests the neurosurgeon ordered. According to him he found nothing that he could fix with surgery. Basically he said I might recover my ability to walk with extensive physical therapy. Funny thing is I’m numb but I’m not in pain. The other thing is I also have arthritis pretty bad in both knees and when I get them injected every three months I can almost walk without my walker. Or at least get around so much so easier and with no fear of my legs collapsing and falling. My knee doctor will not replace my knees until I have my neuropathy gone. I’m so frustrated because I believe I could regain my strength in my lower legs if I had new knees. The injections only make me stronger for about 3 weeks. The doctor will only due the injections every 3 months and I’m not sure but I think that is the insurance policy. Anyway my life is mostly just sitting watching tv and waiting for those 3 months to pass. Thanks for responding and best wishes to you.

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@rjack6618 - My neuropathy is from 4 inches below the knees to toes, all numbness, poor balance, zero pain (thankful!!). My knees are a mess and was getting cortisone shots every 3 months. The shots work for 6 - 8 weeks and the last 4 - 6 weeks prior to next shot was painful. Osteoporosis is a concern so now, the orthopedic surgeon will give me shots no earlier than 5 months apart and he is absolutely correct. Due to peripheral neuropathy and greater chance of falling, my knees can't be replaced. Voltaren cream does reduce knee pain along with Advil. On my end, the insurance will pay every 3 months, but it is more of medical concern. I'm holding off on the next shots until early Dec to get me through the holidays. Unfortunately, we need to time our abilities, activities like trips to availability of knee shots. Nonetheless, I keep moving the best I can, and as painful as it may be, I keep walking.

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This is a sad question for me to comment on, as I have the same problems. Mine has largely been caused by 25 years of incorrectly, treated Type 3C diabetes. The chronically elevated blood sugar levels have damaged the capillaries in my lower legs that nourish the nerves. I am largely numb from the knee down and through the feet. Because the nerves aren’t firing anymore, the muscle has atrophied and I’m probably down to being able to walk no more than a quarter mile before I have to sit down. Likewise standing for more than a minute or two is very difficult. I’ve had two EMGs confirm the condition. The scary thing is that my HB A1c was never above 6.5. This is why I tell diabetics of any kind to aggressively manage their blood sugar and particularly Type 2 diabetics who have the possibility of completely reversing their diagnosis with lifestyle changes.

Unfortunately, I’ve been told by neurologists that my neuropathy condition is untreatable at this point. I’ve had naturopaths tell me that dosing of B12 and ALA might help, and stupidly. I’m one of those people who is susceptible to hope. None of this stuff worked (including 90 days of trying very expensive lions mane mushroom).

I’ve resisted getting any kind of walker or braces on my legs because I feel like that would be an admission that I’m giving up. Instead, I’ll fight against this for the rest of my life through resistance training and riding my exercise bike every day. I know I’ll not recover the muscle and function of my lower legs, but I’ll do everything I can to stop it from advancing further up my legs past the knee. I also know that once we stop moving, our bodies begin to quickly deteriorate further.

I’m sorry I can’t be more positive about your husband‘s outlook for the future, but I’d surely recommend he find something he can do (like riding an exercise bike). I found physical therapy ineffective mostly because I can do the things they recommend at home.

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@rjack6618 - My neuropathy is from 4 inches below the knees to toes, all numbness, poor balance, zero pain (thankful!!). My knees are a mess and was getting cortisone shots every 3 months. The shots work for 6 - 8 weeks and the last 4 - 6 weeks prior to next shot was painful. Osteoporosis is a concern so now, the orthopedic surgeon will give me shots no earlier than 5 months apart and he is absolutely correct. Due to peripheral neuropathy and greater chance of falling, my knees can't be replaced. Voltaren cream does reduce knee pain along with Advil. On my end, the insurance will pay every 3 months, but it is more of medical concern. I'm holding off on the next shots until early Dec to get me through the holidays. Unfortunately, we need to time our abilities, activities like trips to availability of knee shots. Nonetheless, I keep moving the best I can, and as painful as it may be, I keep walking.

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My walking is not really painful but scary because they are so weak and I fill like they are going to collapse at anytime. But with my walker I can get around a little bit.
When I get my knees injected it’s like I have new legs and I still use the walker but I barely have to use it. I’m sure the doctors are right about not replacing my knees but it is just amazing how much better I can I walk and stand for about 3 to 4 weeks. Thanks for your response and best of luck with your situation.

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Profile picture for txgbear2 @txgbear2

This is a sad question for me to comment on, as I have the same problems. Mine has largely been caused by 25 years of incorrectly, treated Type 3C diabetes. The chronically elevated blood sugar levels have damaged the capillaries in my lower legs that nourish the nerves. I am largely numb from the knee down and through the feet. Because the nerves aren’t firing anymore, the muscle has atrophied and I’m probably down to being able to walk no more than a quarter mile before I have to sit down. Likewise standing for more than a minute or two is very difficult. I’ve had two EMGs confirm the condition. The scary thing is that my HB A1c was never above 6.5. This is why I tell diabetics of any kind to aggressively manage their blood sugar and particularly Type 2 diabetics who have the possibility of completely reversing their diagnosis with lifestyle changes.

Unfortunately, I’ve been told by neurologists that my neuropathy condition is untreatable at this point. I’ve had naturopaths tell me that dosing of B12 and ALA might help, and stupidly. I’m one of those people who is susceptible to hope. None of this stuff worked (including 90 days of trying very expensive lions mane mushroom).

I’ve resisted getting any kind of walker or braces on my legs because I feel like that would be an admission that I’m giving up. Instead, I’ll fight against this for the rest of my life through resistance training and riding my exercise bike every day. I know I’ll not recover the muscle and function of my lower legs, but I’ll do everything I can to stop it from advancing further up my legs past the knee. I also know that once we stop moving, our bodies begin to quickly deteriorate further.

I’m sorry I can’t be more positive about your husband‘s outlook for the future, but I’d surely recommend he find something he can do (like riding an exercise bike). I found physical therapy ineffective mostly because I can do the things they recommend at home.

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Thank you and best wishes!

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"I’m so frustrated because I believe I could regain my strength in my lower legs if I had new knees."

Oh boy, @rjack6618, do I relate! My knees, in my estimation, are what stand between me and recovering a modicum of leg strength. I saw my orthopedist a month ago––I was there for his nurse to give me yet another injection––and meeting the doc in the hall asked in passing if, at 80 and with large-fiber neuropathy, I'd "aged out" of knee transplant eligibility. I know I caught him off-guard. He stumbled an answer: "Oh, no, no. We could consider a replacement." Something tells me, if were seriously to discuss the possibility of a replacement and I were to honestly tell him about my balance issues, he might revise his thinking. In the meantime, I'll continue with PT, apologizing to my therapist for not showing more improvement. Oh, these dang knees. 🙂 –Ray (@ray666)

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Get 2nd or 3rd opinion. a friend’s dad who was in his 80’s needed a knee replacement. 2 doctors wouldn’t operate on him. She found a Dr that would operate and he did great.

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Get 2nd or 3rd opinion. a friend’s dad who was in his 80’s needed a knee replacement. 2 doctors wouldn’t operate on him. She found a Dr that would operate and he did great.

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I may have over-imagined my orthopedist's possible reluctance to give a 80-year-old fellow with PN a TKR. I believe he would do, but with assurances from me that I'd be super-diligent about maintaining good balance. He knows I've been an active guy all of my life and am still of a weght and physique that would suggest at TKR, even at 80, would be an okay thing to do.

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For those suffering from neuropathy caused by chemo, I have found great relief using a massager on my legs and feet. I bought the massager from Amazon (it has a long handle) and Frankincense on the bottom of my feet before going to bed (wear socks). My hands feel better if I keep them warm using warm water or wearing gloves. I am also taking low dose Lyrica which helps a lot. Hope this helps you all.

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