Looking for a Benzo wise Doctor in Ohio or Columbus Ohio or any city i

Posted by paromita87 @paromita87, May 20, 2022

Hello,

I have been on Ativan for 3-4 months now, low dose 2mg, I have cut it back to 1.50 mg. My doctor is tapering me off too fast and also telling me to take Kolonopin 0.25mg to support the tapering.

I am looking for a Benzo wise doctor in Ohio, can somebody help please ??? Do you know any body in Columbus or Ohio who follows the Ashton Method of tapering ?

Thanks for your help!, Mita

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Depression & Anxiety Support Group.

Profile picture for daveshaw @daveshaw

You have made some excellent points that I agree with but “ pill mills” do exist in certain towns in this country that do tremendous harm to people. Doctors in those towns should have their licenses taken away so they can never practice medicine again.
As far as opioids I am amazed that someone prescribed them for pain can take them responsibly and stop when they are no longer in pain and others continue to take them because they enjoy getting high. I think it is an individual thing because there are people with addictive personalities. If they can’t get opioids they find themselves taking heroin because it is cheaper and easier to find. I don’t know why some people can drink alcohol socially their entire lives and others become alcoholics. We tried prohibition banning the sale of all alcohol in this country and we saw how that turned out. We thought pricing a pack of cigarettes at ever increasing prices would put an end to smoking in this country and yet approximately 18% of people still smoke.
I just think certain people have addictive personalities.
I have taken opioids when I am in legitimate pain and stop the moment the pain stops.
I take benzodiazepines as part of a responsible treatment for anxiety and depression and don’t ever increase my dosage and yet some get high and can’t control their usage.
You mention gabapentine and I have been described it for depression and anxiety and found it did absolutely nothing to relieve my symptoms. Yet this drug is still around and prescribed off label for so many things.
Long story short listen to your PCP doctor and if they practice medicine responsibly they will prescribe medication the way it should be used. Unfortunately there are bad actors in the medical profession just like any profession. Ironically drug use among doctors is a tremendous problem in this country.
I don’t pretend to know the answer but government overreach is definitely not the answer.
Good luck to everyone.

Jump to this post

People who take opioids long term at the lowest but beneficial dosages or drug strength don't tend to get any kind of high, they simply feel relief. Opioids need to be prescribed accurately according to each individual's pain level, pain tolerance, condition causing the pain. It's just as important to not under prescribe patients doing so increases the risks of "pill seeking", addiction, increases risks for additional health and mental health issues and in multiple ways, death. The government has become a big threat with blanket recommendations that consider nobody as an individual with specific needs, they've put so much fear and brainwashing into Dr's that they are turning away patients who legitimately need controlled meds, leaving those patients with no treatment. PCP's and ER's will not give out pain meds and no matter how much you've already taken from OTC they send you home with higher doses of Advil. This caused a friend of mine to end up in the hospital with organ damage. She has multiple debilitating pain disorders; they treat animals better than she's been treated. It makes me so sick and breaks my heart to see how broken she's become living every single day in constant pain since over policies they greatly reduced her medication. She's become a shell of who she was. Gained at least 80lbs, can barely move, cries in her sleep and can't get up to her own bed anymore. It's government forced abuse! I get there are shady Dr's, nothing new there, there always will be shady people in every profession but that is absolutely no excuse for the way people who are suffering are being treated! People don't understand the level of suffering people are forced to endure to keep a few what are safer anyway pills off the street! This has become the cruelest, most inhumane healthcare system in modern history! That's the real crisis today!!

REPLY
Profile picture for sleepstate @sleepstate

Lol, I don't even bother with PCP's anymore. And none of them at least in AZ will prescribe any controlled medications period. Beyond colds, flu, common illnesses they don't have any idea at all of what my condition is, can describe it properly or know how the medications work, especially in my case. This makes them dangerous to me, they think they know but they don't. Nurse practitioners are even worse! I had one tell me I did not have Narcolepsy being unhappy about having to write my prescriptions while my Dr was away. I have every symptom in the book and 2 sleep studies confirming I have N1. That same NP I blame in large part to my mother's death. My mother had COPD and was very sick with an infection and should have been admitted or at least seen a Dr! This guy gives her 10 days of antibiotics sends her home, no lung x-ray, no labs, no lung function test, no specialist advised, nothing! She died after fighting so hard she had a heart attack. It was malpractice imo. If you ever unfortunate having a chronic illness, especially one that is rare and based in the brain the last people you want to see or listen too are PCP's, family practice physicians and NP's. I only go in to request yearly lab work, everything else I see my specialist for. One main reason is because of taking controlled medication for reasons they have no knowledge about yet are quick to think they do and want to lecture me. Most people who have a legitimate need for opiates and other drugs don't become addicted, part of it is because they are getting and feeling actual relief, not a high. The pain or whatever goes away so does the need for the opiate. Patients who use these drugs long term don't tend to take higher doses if symptoms are well controlled. For one thing we are well aware tolerance becomes a problem if taken in higher doses, the goal is to keep them working at the lowest yet beneficial dosage. I think part of the problem these days is the dosages or drugs aren't near strong enough to provide relief. The trend is greatly under medicating which is no better than over medicating. Some patients will take higher doses or turn to the streets not being able to take much more of the suffering. This too is driving the illegal drug trade. People just don't see it, sadly it ends badly for so many when it didn't have to go that way in the first place. Gabapentin is intended for lower back pain. Talk about a drug, a dangerous drug vastly over prescribed with long term, irreversible side effects that include what is brain damage, early dementia with just days of using it. They keep trying to give it to my son who already has had trouble with thinking, cognitive skills, completing tasks most of his life, the last thing he needs is dementia by 40. I throw most of them away and told him to tell the next Dr who tries giving it to him that he is at very high risk for dementia, Parkinsons and other disorders of the brain as ot is and if they don't know how much higher his risk goes with Gabapentin(I believe it's 42%, extreme) then they need to educate themselves about the drug and latest research findings before prescribing it to anyone! Prescribers should also be informing patients of the potential dangers of taking Gabapentin, they aren't saying anything. This is something that should be part of their so-called war on drugs! Making sure the patient is fully informed, understands the risk, the medication, why they're being prescribed it and are encouraged to come in and discuss any developing problems without fear they'll be judged and just cut off. Instead, they'll work to find a solution. This almost never happens and should instead of just reducing meds and cutting them off for everyone. There is absolutely nothing in the laws supporting the war on drugs that actually do anything to reduce the problems people are having leading to misuse, addiction, overdoses and deaths. They are pushing people who otherwise never would have considered illegal drugs right into it. And worse, they have to know this, there's no way they don't! And yes, you're right Dr's use drugs too. Especially when trying to make it through 72 hours on duty in residency they used drugs like Ritalin. They don't anymore thanks to drug testing and crack downs. But I'll tell ya, if my life depended on someone who has been on duty 30, 40 plus hours and exhausted, I'd rather they took a Ritalin or modafinil than nothing at all or too much coffee.

Jump to this post

Yes there are parts of the country where pill mills do exist but I just don’t understand taking OxyContin to get high.
I have a great PCP but I am starting to think that is the exception and not the rule. I moved 40 minutes away and rather than find a new doctor I make the drive to see her.
Clonazepam is part of my daily plan to fight depression and anxiety but I can’t imagine taking it to get high. I have taken the same dose for over thirty years.
Psychiatrists used to get to know their patients and with that knowledge they prescribed medication. Now they just ask a few questions and then prescribe something. The whole way of practicing medicine has changed so much.
I am very fortunate my PCP is not just my Doctor but someone who has actually taken the time to get to know me.
Good luck to you.

REPLY
Profile picture for arthur57 @arthur57

I would NOT in any circumstances ask for Klonopin - EVER! It can screw you up and you will more than likely become dependent on it after just a few short weeks!! NEVER! Read up on it and withdrawal symptoms etc. don't let anyone tell you that it works for them. They are addicted, oh sorry, dependent, and don't even realize it! And most physicians are clueless of how Klonopin works. Maybe ask a pharmacist, who you can trust, how it can screw you up!

Jump to this post

Yes Klonopin can be hard to taper off but at 74 I am more concerned about enjoying life. My medications work for me and I think the fact that Klonopin/ Clonazepam is a controlled substance like heroin or OxyContin is absurd.
I have never heard of anyone overdosing on Klonopin. It is effective at reducing anxiety and works well with SSRI’s in treating depression.
Everyone has to find out what works for them and once they do they have to stick with it.
There is not a medication out there that doesn’t have side effects.
That being said living with constant depression and anxiety is something I wouldn’t wish on anybody.
Good luck to you. We are all addicted to something. I am also addicted to exercise and if I don’t get it six out of seven days a week I don’t feel right. The most important thing is to get to know your own body and stick with what works for you.
Alcohol is addictive as is nicotine. I choose not to use either one.
Good luck to you.

REPLY

My friend is trying to wean off of decades of lorazapam. The PCP sent her to a psychiatrist who can manage the wean and substitution to something more agreeable as she is 68. The PCPs do not want to mess with Federal licensing conditions to prescribe. The weaning is going well. Given it is Medicare, she does not get talk therapy there, but the PA manages the prescriptions.

REPLY
Profile picture for daveshaw @daveshaw

Yes there are parts of the country where pill mills do exist but I just don’t understand taking OxyContin to get high.
I have a great PCP but I am starting to think that is the exception and not the rule. I moved 40 minutes away and rather than find a new doctor I make the drive to see her.
Clonazepam is part of my daily plan to fight depression and anxiety but I can’t imagine taking it to get high. I have taken the same dose for over thirty years.
Psychiatrists used to get to know their patients and with that knowledge they prescribed medication. Now they just ask a few questions and then prescribe something. The whole way of practicing medicine has changed so much.
I am very fortunate my PCP is not just my Doctor but someone who has actually taken the time to get to know me.
Good luck to you.

Jump to this post

I have a small Percoset prescription through a pain doctor. I have them also do nerve blocks and shots for joints, as needed. I am a fan of Orthopedic PT, and work with that as well. I finally had to make myself do the stretches before bed and I do sleep better and am not in such misery in the morning. My PCP who previously prescribed retired and the new deal is finding a pain doctor. It is annoying to do the pee test, refill every thirty days and have pills counted, but that is the necessary.

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.