Lumbar laminectomy/fusion patients with osteopororis?

Posted by pyates @pyates, Jul 28, 2025

Greetings to everyone.

I'm a 64 y.o. male with osteopororis and lumbar stenosis in L3, L4, L5, and S1. The stenosis is severe in L5-S1, and mild/moderate in L3 and L4. The situation is complicated further because L4 looks especially degenerated, to a degree that may qualify as a VFX.

My symptoms are chronic back and hip pain, left-drop foot, and possible urinary retention. For the time being, I'm still on my feet, can ambulate easily enough, and haven't had significant loss of bladder control. At least for now, that is.

I've consulted two surgeons so far, and they give me mixed feedback. My impression is that they'll do the surgery, but based on the non-verbal aspect of their communication, may be hoping I find a different surgeon. No surprise there, given my clinical picture.

The second surgeon pointed out that I'd need bone regeneration treatment prior to the operation. He didn't say exactly what that entailed, although I've since connected with an experienced endocrinologist/BMD specialist who explained the basics about anabolics and bisphosphonates and how they'll probably be used in my case.

I'm still mapping out my surgery planning. The timing of the operation, nature of bone regeneration treatment, and who the surgeon will be are still unsettled issues. I'm feeling my way forward in the dark, so to speak.

Needless to say, I'm worried about post-surgery instrumentation failure, because of the osteoporosis.

Presumably the surgery will happen anytime in the short-term (three to six months) or intermediate-term (one to two years) future, depending on symptom progression. I have no idea how quickly the neurological disfunction can progress. I'm not getting clear answers from the doctors on this score.

Is anyone here an osteoporotic who's had spinal fusion surgery (particularly lumbar)? If so, did the doctors use bone strengthening medication prior to the operation? Was your bone density indeed improved, and how did the operation turn out?

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I wouldn’t wait so long to see a urologist to evaluate your urinary symptoms

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Profile picture for laura1970 @laura1970

I wouldn’t wait so long to see a urologist to evaluate your urinary symptoms

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I've been seeing a urologist for the past two years. He diagnosed a mild bladder problem (i.e., urgency, nocturia) which may or may not have neurogenic origins. Urodynamics testing can uncover evidence of such issues, but rarely does it explain the cause.

Either way, the problem's been reasonably well managed by medication. And the urologist is definitely tracking my condition.

But yes, you're correct: if the stenosis gets worse, that could indeed translate into deteriorating bladder functioning, assuming (in my case) there's a casual link between the conditions. I guess time will tell.

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Profile picture for pyates @pyates

I've been seeing a urologist for the past two years. He diagnosed a mild bladder problem (i.e., urgency, nocturia) which may or may not have neurogenic origins. Urodynamics testing can uncover evidence of such issues, but rarely does it explain the cause.

Either way, the problem's been reasonably well managed by medication. And the urologist is definitely tracking my condition.

But yes, you're correct: if the stenosis gets worse, that could indeed translate into deteriorating bladder functioning, assuming (in my case) there's a casual link between the conditions. I guess time will tell.

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I recently intereviewed a doctor for similar surgery only, mine would involve fusion from t-10 to s1. I do not have osteoporosis but have a very low reading of osteopenia in one area of my spine. The Doctor would not proceed with surgery until I went on Tymlos for 3 months then annother bone building medication for six more. If I had osteoporosis, I would have given pause to the Tymlos treatment plan. The most common failure with spinal fusion is screws pulling out. It would be better for you to get on a treatment plan as soon as possible because it takes six months to a year for bene density to improve.
My decision to not go on the Tymlos treatment plan was because my density readings didn't merit any medication and this doctor was the only one who was pushing for it.
The bladder issues may or may not be related to the disc degeneration, your surgeon should be able to connect the dots on that. Good Luck!

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I recently intereviewed a doctor for similar surgery only, mine would involve fusion from t-10 to s1. I do not have osteoporosis but have a very low reading of osteopenia in one area of my spine. The Doctor would not proceed with surgery until I went on Tymlos for 3 months then annother bone building medication for six more. If I had osteoporosis, I would have given pause to the Tymlos treatment plan. The most common failure with spinal fusion is screws pulling out. It would be better for you to get on a treatment plan as soon as possible because it takes six months to a year for bene density to improve.
My decision to not go on the Tymlos treatment plan was because my density readings didn't merit any medication and this doctor was the only one who was pushing for it.
The bladder issues may or may not be related to the disc degeneration, your surgeon should be able to connect the dots on that. Good Luck!

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Thank you for the informative reply. You're addressing the nuances that I'm facing, and am trying to learn about from other patients, meaning (especially) their personal experiences.

Fortunately, for me, things have been moving fast these past two days. That's with respect to launching bone regeneration treatment. The doctor is putting me on something for the next year. I'm getting my first infusion a couple weeks from now.

That is good.

Barring any sudden, unexpected, and dramatic worsening of my neurologic symptoms, I won't be getting the laminectomy/fusion operation for at least one or two years. So I've got some time during which, hopefully, my lumbar BMD can be boosted.

BTW: it's possible I'll be taking Tymlos. In a few days I'll know for certain which medication it will be.

Instrumentation failure is a scary thought for sure. I've got a lot of research ahead of me on that count. I definitely want to know the worst case scenario that could occur, assuming I'm unlucky. Knowledge is power, no matter how distressing the facts may be.

I'm curious...what are your specific reasons for rejecting Tymlos treatment? Are you wary of side-effects or medication-induced health risks? If so, which in particular?

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Greetings to everyone.

Over the past year, I've posted about my severe lumbar stenosis and osteoporosis. My prior comments explain the basics about my situation.

Anyway, in March, my neurosurgeon recommended that I finally get my lumbar laminectomy, after I'd been experiencing symptoms for roughly a decade.

It appears that the surgery turned out quite well. My symptoms from the lumbar area downward through the hips and legs have almost completely disappeared.

When I first consulted this surgeon a year ago, he advised I'd need a triple level fusion, including inserting hardware (i.e., instrumentation). Naturally, because of my osteoporosis, I was quite worried about the potential for hardware failure.

Later, the surgeon changed plans and decided to do a double level fusion with in-situ fusion. That completely eliminated the need to use hardware. Lucky me!

The operation was completed in less than an hour. After a few hours of observation, the doctors decided to let me go home, as I was doing well and I happen to live across the street from a hospital.

For the next two weeks, I was on some kind of pain killer (I don't remember which one), so I never felt any pain. I didn't experience any neurologic problems either.

These days, I almost feel as if I never had lumbar stenosis at all. The agonizing pain and loss of mobility I struggled are just fading memories now. It's amazing.

I no longer need to take any pain killers for any reason. Previously I had been on those meds, to one degree or another, for a decade.

On the other hand, I sort of sense that my lumbar region is still fragile, as I am still unable to attempt light physical therapy without triggering a resurgence of pain. The pain's light - only a 1 or 2 on a 10 point scale, but that's just enough to make me stop the PT early. Same thing happens if I carry a three pound bag of groceries for half mile or so.

It's possible that I won't be able to resume PT for another five or six months. But that's a small price to pay to preserve the positive effects of the operation. Let's see how things turn out.

On the osteoporosis front, I just completed my 12 month Evenity treatment. My Dexa scan's scheduled for next month. I'll report the results.

My endocrinologist is now starting Alendronate (70 mg tabs), to lock in the gains achieved by Evenity.

I'm very fortunate in that I live in Boston, as that enabled me to find an exceptionally experienced neurosurgeon at a top ranked Boston hospital. I count my blessings in life.

I'd report more of the specifics except that, at this moment, I've got to be somewhere and don't have time to write. But I encourage people to ask any - and as many - questions as they want. I'll check my medical records and give you substantive answers.

Hope springs eternal.

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Excellent news!
Who is your neurosurgeon.

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Profile picture for pyates @pyates

Greetings to everyone.

Over the past year, I've posted about my severe lumbar stenosis and osteoporosis. My prior comments explain the basics about my situation.

Anyway, in March, my neurosurgeon recommended that I finally get my lumbar laminectomy, after I'd been experiencing symptoms for roughly a decade.

It appears that the surgery turned out quite well. My symptoms from the lumbar area downward through the hips and legs have almost completely disappeared.

When I first consulted this surgeon a year ago, he advised I'd need a triple level fusion, including inserting hardware (i.e., instrumentation). Naturally, because of my osteoporosis, I was quite worried about the potential for hardware failure.

Later, the surgeon changed plans and decided to do a double level fusion with in-situ fusion. That completely eliminated the need to use hardware. Lucky me!

The operation was completed in less than an hour. After a few hours of observation, the doctors decided to let me go home, as I was doing well and I happen to live across the street from a hospital.

For the next two weeks, I was on some kind of pain killer (I don't remember which one), so I never felt any pain. I didn't experience any neurologic problems either.

These days, I almost feel as if I never had lumbar stenosis at all. The agonizing pain and loss of mobility I struggled are just fading memories now. It's amazing.

I no longer need to take any pain killers for any reason. Previously I had been on those meds, to one degree or another, for a decade.

On the other hand, I sort of sense that my lumbar region is still fragile, as I am still unable to attempt light physical therapy without triggering a resurgence of pain. The pain's light - only a 1 or 2 on a 10 point scale, but that's just enough to make me stop the PT early. Same thing happens if I carry a three pound bag of groceries for half mile or so.

It's possible that I won't be able to resume PT for another five or six months. But that's a small price to pay to preserve the positive effects of the operation. Let's see how things turn out.

On the osteoporosis front, I just completed my 12 month Evenity treatment. My Dexa scan's scheduled for next month. I'll report the results.

My endocrinologist is now starting Alendronate (70 mg tabs), to lock in the gains achieved by Evenity.

I'm very fortunate in that I live in Boston, as that enabled me to find an exceptionally experienced neurosurgeon at a top ranked Boston hospital. I count my blessings in life.

I'd report more of the specifics except that, at this moment, I've got to be somewhere and don't have time to write. But I encourage people to ask any - and as many - questions as they want. I'll check my medical records and give you substantive answers.

Hope springs eternal.

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@pyates wow that is awesome!! So happy for you! It is so heartening to hear such stories as yours!!

Wishing you a pain free life going ahead!

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Profile picture for pyates @pyates

Greetings to everyone.

Over the past year, I've posted about my severe lumbar stenosis and osteoporosis. My prior comments explain the basics about my situation.

Anyway, in March, my neurosurgeon recommended that I finally get my lumbar laminectomy, after I'd been experiencing symptoms for roughly a decade.

It appears that the surgery turned out quite well. My symptoms from the lumbar area downward through the hips and legs have almost completely disappeared.

When I first consulted this surgeon a year ago, he advised I'd need a triple level fusion, including inserting hardware (i.e., instrumentation). Naturally, because of my osteoporosis, I was quite worried about the potential for hardware failure.

Later, the surgeon changed plans and decided to do a double level fusion with in-situ fusion. That completely eliminated the need to use hardware. Lucky me!

The operation was completed in less than an hour. After a few hours of observation, the doctors decided to let me go home, as I was doing well and I happen to live across the street from a hospital.

For the next two weeks, I was on some kind of pain killer (I don't remember which one), so I never felt any pain. I didn't experience any neurologic problems either.

These days, I almost feel as if I never had lumbar stenosis at all. The agonizing pain and loss of mobility I struggled are just fading memories now. It's amazing.

I no longer need to take any pain killers for any reason. Previously I had been on those meds, to one degree or another, for a decade.

On the other hand, I sort of sense that my lumbar region is still fragile, as I am still unable to attempt light physical therapy without triggering a resurgence of pain. The pain's light - only a 1 or 2 on a 10 point scale, but that's just enough to make me stop the PT early. Same thing happens if I carry a three pound bag of groceries for half mile or so.

It's possible that I won't be able to resume PT for another five or six months. But that's a small price to pay to preserve the positive effects of the operation. Let's see how things turn out.

On the osteoporosis front, I just completed my 12 month Evenity treatment. My Dexa scan's scheduled for next month. I'll report the results.

My endocrinologist is now starting Alendronate (70 mg tabs), to lock in the gains achieved by Evenity.

I'm very fortunate in that I live in Boston, as that enabled me to find an exceptionally experienced neurosurgeon at a top ranked Boston hospital. I count my blessings in life.

I'd report more of the specifics except that, at this moment, I've got to be somewhere and don't have time to write. But I encourage people to ask any - and as many - questions as they want. I'll check my medical records and give you substantive answers.

Hope springs eternal.

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@pyates hi, I live in Massachusetts outside of Boston and I am looking for an expert in osteoporosis. I am afraid to just pick one without an excellent recommendation. Does anyone know a trustworthy doctor.

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Profile picture for here4health @here4health

@pyates hi, I live in Massachusetts outside of Boston and I am looking for an expert in osteoporosis. I am afraid to just pick one without an excellent recommendation. Does anyone know a trustworthy doctor.

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@here4health - I'd recommend :

Orthopedic Affiliates Joint and Sports Medicine Center, in Concord, Westford, Groton, Berlin, Hudson, MA.

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Thank you very much, Mike.

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