Vibration plates anyone using

Posted by laurie16 @laurie16, Dec 1, 2024

Hi
I’m wondering if anyone is using or has any feedback if vibration plates have helped with bone density /growth
I have osteoporosis and osteopenia
I was looking at Life pro

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I fell off a vibration plate and broke my toe. Be careful.

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Saw a more recent podcast with a lady and Dr Rubin saying a weaker vibration is actually better for you. Apparently, the high speeds will jar the wrong things in your body and break them down prematurely (?)

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Dr. Kieth McCormick says the same thing. You dont want a vibration that really jars you.

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Profile picture for bevlevvancouverbc @bevlevvancouverbc

to @persa I agree with you:
it seems to me Rubin's pushing a product that he spent years putting on market and would like compensation for his time and money : from what I have read on this product, and in my opinion, I feel he misrepresents his affiliation or work with NASA and uses that as a sales pitch.
There was a clinical trial done on this product:
Always do your own due diligence and find/review before spending your hard earned monies.

Some on this forum say it has helped, but at the same time, they have done other activities and nutrients as well -- so, how do you prove that Marydone helped improve bone density. These are anecdotal and subjective opinions.
If it makes you feel wonderful - and you can afford it - Great.

Margaret Martin, Sarah Meeks and Dr Janet Rubin (related to
Dr Clinton Rubin) encourage buying the product with enthusiasm.

On the other hand
Dr Lucas takes a more balanced pros and cons conversation on it. There are 3 parts to his discussion online.

Below is Margaret Martin's endorsement.
https://melioguide.com/osteoporosis-treatment/whole-body-vibration-therapy/

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to @persa

Your comments are clear and concise.

Hopefully more members will do their own research
before spending their hard earned monies.

It is frontier wild west out there LOL
Any nutrient, any supplement should be rigorously
researched: it is painstaking, bewildering and
takes up time, but absolutely necessary.

There is no comment or advice on this forum which
will be a magic bullet, it is a guidepost to begin
your own question and answer search.

collagen is an example: I spent months researching
the different types: hydrolized, denatured versus
native, which type benefits bone formation better,
marine vs bovine, what brand, what format, amount.
which are certified by good health practices, GMP
or other.
A month ago, as I was getting closer to deciding
what to buy:
I came across a report that collagen will add to breast density,
which vexed me. I have dense breast.
I asked a nutritionist I work with, to verify this
information. She found studies that confirm this.
If you have dense breast, this should be something to
consider before taking collagen.
The other alternative - I now need to investigate is
creatine.
Will it do more or less what collagen does, for bone
formation - with
certain circumstances, for example exercize.
For people with sensitive gut, (I have IBS)
creatine might be a challenge.
Dr. Patrick and Dr Stacy Simms: both
advocate strongly for creatine for women and
Omega 3.

As you say in your comments, Persa, when you
are doing complementary activities or supplements,
how do you know which is helping.

I wrote a few months ago, that I was not taking any
drugs in spite of 'severe osteoporosis' and concentrated
on diet and moderate exercize.
My dexa after a year were:
spine improved 5.6%
hips improved 6.4%

Moderate: no jumping, no heavy weights.
I realize some people have physical limitations, some
are unable to do much exercize.
But small increment, done persistently overtime,
will yield some good results.

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@mcallister1002

I replied to your post:
omitted to include your name -
hoping you find it somehow
I addressed it to Persa
thanks for your comments

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I watched a helpful video "Bone Health Optimal Fitness Basics" presented by Lora Giangregorio on OsteoBoston's website
At around the 1:10 mark she, very briefly, gives her opinion about weighted vests, vibration plates and OsteoStrong.


This is her bio:
https://uwaterloo.ca/kinesiology-health-sciences/profiles/lora-giangregorio

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Profile picture for bevlevvancouverbc @bevlevvancouverbc

to @persa

Your comments are clear and concise.

Hopefully more members will do their own research
before spending their hard earned monies.

It is frontier wild west out there LOL
Any nutrient, any supplement should be rigorously
researched: it is painstaking, bewildering and
takes up time, but absolutely necessary.

There is no comment or advice on this forum which
will be a magic bullet, it is a guidepost to begin
your own question and answer search.

collagen is an example: I spent months researching
the different types: hydrolized, denatured versus
native, which type benefits bone formation better,
marine vs bovine, what brand, what format, amount.
which are certified by good health practices, GMP
or other.
A month ago, as I was getting closer to deciding
what to buy:
I came across a report that collagen will add to breast density,
which vexed me. I have dense breast.
I asked a nutritionist I work with, to verify this
information. She found studies that confirm this.
If you have dense breast, this should be something to
consider before taking collagen.
The other alternative - I now need to investigate is
creatine.
Will it do more or less what collagen does, for bone
formation - with
certain circumstances, for example exercize.
For people with sensitive gut, (I have IBS)
creatine might be a challenge.
Dr. Patrick and Dr Stacy Simms: both
advocate strongly for creatine for women and
Omega 3.

As you say in your comments, Persa, when you
are doing complementary activities or supplements,
how do you know which is helping.

I wrote a few months ago, that I was not taking any
drugs in spite of 'severe osteoporosis' and concentrated
on diet and moderate exercize.
My dexa after a year were:
spine improved 5.6%
hips improved 6.4%

Moderate: no jumping, no heavy weights.
I realize some people have physical limitations, some
are unable to do much exercize.
But small increment, done persistently overtime,
will yield some good results.

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I read that report about collagen and dense breasts. I too have dense breasts. I showed it to my gynocologist and her take was that dense breasts in and of themselves can cause breast cancer. She said I think it's OK to take collagen. She also suggested I show it to my new endocrinologist as she might have a better understanding of it. I showed to the Endo and she said "why take collagen, there are no studies that show it helps bones". In her opionion it was a waste of money. I came across some studies that do show it helps bones after meeting with her. I wasn't feeling confident with either of their answers.

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@mcallister1002

Dense breast makes it harder to find cancer in the breast,
and might be missed on a mammogram.

Perhaps dense breast is a risk factor, but so is aging.
How do we measure that risk?

In Canada, and perhaps in the U.S. as well, there is an
interval exam available between scheduled mammograms
for Dense Breast.
ABUS 3D Ultra Sound screening for dense breast.
It is usually done 6 months after the last mammogram,
if your density score is C or D.

Some cancers may grow slowly and may never cause problems or
need treatment (overdiagnosis).
We might die from another illness or condition, or just plain
old age, and not know we had nascent breast cancer.

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@mcallister1002

I forgot to add -
Your endo remarks about collagen being a waste of
money.
She may have a point.
As far as I know - the favorable clinical studies on Collagen were
based on Gelita (German). manufacturer of Fortibone (and more)
It is so difficult to find clinical studies that do not
have vested interests.
Look the clinical studies and take
into consideration the researchers - their connection to the
product - and compensations.

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Profile picture for bevlevvancouverbc @bevlevvancouverbc

@mcallister1002

Dense breast makes it harder to find cancer in the breast,
and might be missed on a mammogram.

Perhaps dense breast is a risk factor, but so is aging.
How do we measure that risk?

In Canada, and perhaps in the U.S. as well, there is an
interval exam available between scheduled mammograms
for Dense Breast.
ABUS 3D Ultra Sound screening for dense breast.
It is usually done 6 months after the last mammogram,
if your density score is C or D.

Some cancers may grow slowly and may never cause problems or
need treatment (overdiagnosis).
We might die from another illness or condition, or just plain
old age, and not know we had nascent breast cancer.

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Thank you for your comments I get an ultrasound but they do it after the mammogram, on the same day.

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