Giant Cell Arteritis Diagnosis

Posted by oztrax @oztrax, Mar 24, 2023

I think GCA is a better name than Temperal Arteritis, as it affects more than just head arteries.
This last week I’m sure I have this condition, after 2 years of tests, specialists and a few thousand dollars searching for a diagnosis.

Fatigue isn’t the right word, it’s more like complete weakness in all my muscles and body. Have lost 12 kgs without even trying.
I was 56 years old when the fatigue started, 6 months later then inner ear vertigo, tinnitus and ear pain. Eg climb a ladder and vomit a few minutes later….ENT said it was Vestibular Migraine, with no cause or treatment available, but vestibular testing showed hydrops (inflammation in inner ear) .Migraine headaches were unbelievable.
Was bed ridden with this for 2 months then another 6 months before getting back to work full time.

End of last year I had GI issues, painful shoulder and lower back pain for no reason.
Around this time noticed tender scalp, which was very painful around right temporal region. Told the ENT about it and he said it was just muscular, nothing to worry about………
Last 2 months bad shoulder pain in both shoulders , minor pain both hips and both elbows. Looked like PMR, also had elevated liver enzymes, urine tests always showed dehydration and low Uric acid.

Also suffer from Psoriatic Arthritis which has been severe in the past affecting my fingers and toes, take Arava (leflunomide) daily for this, had been on methotrexate and sulfasalazine before this over the last 10 years or so.

So last week my scalp was so sore it was stinging around the right Temperal and right occipital areas. I was researching PMR at saw GCR mentioned and knew that’s what I must have.

Will have a temporal artery ultrasound next week, but I think they should also ultrasound occipital and frontal lobe areas as these are painful as well.

My question is : in my case this has been a slow progression of this disease , which is atypical and some of the symptoms previously where not always present . Also up to 2 months ago , blood tests were normal.

Maybe the Arava/Leflunemide and previous methotrexate slowed down both the onset and progress of the disease and hopefully I don’t have any permanent artery damage.

What are your thoughts and advice

Regards
OZ

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To @kathren, this is totally my opinion from my own GCA experience, lots of research, and long conversations with my Concierge primary care doc and my Rheum doc. I agree you should be on 40-60mg prednisone. If you have GCA, you need treatment ASAP to forego potential vision problems. September is too long to wait. If you can’t get this quickly, I would go to a hospital emergency room if possible, tell the why you are concerned about GCA. If not possible, ask your PA to research GCA, if necessary, and get that high dose prednisone. Any doc can prescribe. Standard of care, according to my docs, is that if GCA is suspected, it is appropriate to begin high dose prednisone, and then continue on to confirmation with carotid ultrasound or biopsy. Good luck to you.

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Hello! What you woke up to that morning is exactly what happened to me this past April, only it was in just one eye. You described it perfectly!! Was that in both eyes for you? And what is your vision like now? I hope your vision is back to normal. I was immediately put on steroid infusions every 24 hours for 4 days and have been on prednisone ever since. I also do Actemra infusions every 4 weeks. My vision in that eye has gotten better, but there are still grey blotchy areas. And yes, my prednisone tapering has definitely caused fatigue. Thank you for everything you wrote! And I am so thankful for this group as well!

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Yes mine was in my right eye only. My vision in that eye is still blotchy and grey areas. That has not improved. Guess this is my new norm now. I am so thankful it was not worse. My Neuro Ophthalmologist did not want to put me on Actemra. No clue why. I went last week for my visit and she has me on 1 mg 3 times a day for 1 week, then 2 mg/day for 1 week, then down to 1 for 1 week. Then one every other day. I fell about a month ago and have been having terrible arm and shoulder pain. They checked it out and can not find anything wrong with it. Now the other arm is also hurting and I do believe it is pain from prednisone withdrawals. Good luck and God Bless you with this diagnosis. Thanks also for responding.

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To @kathren, this is totally my opinion from my own GCA experience, lots of research, and long conversations with my Concierge primary care doc and my Rheum doc. I agree you should be on 40-60mg prednisone. If you have GCA, you need treatment ASAP to forego potential vision problems. September is too long to wait. If you can’t get this quickly, I would go to a hospital emergency room if possible, tell the why you are concerned about GCA. If not possible, ask your PA to research GCA, if necessary, and get that high dose prednisone. Any doc can prescribe. Standard of care, according to my docs, is that if GCA is suspected, it is appropriate to begin high dose prednisone, and then continue on to confirmation with carotid ultrasound or biopsy. Good luck to you.

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Thank you for the suggestions. I am interested in the idea of a carotid ultrasound.
I had labs taken this morning- results on Thursday or Friday. I was given a shot of cortisone.
I will see if that helps with pain. I forgot to ask the dosage.

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My situation is much like yours, suffering for two years until it finally put me in the hospital with GCA
I suspected polymyalgia 2 years ago, I had all of the symptoms but tests were in normal limits. Saw more than 20 drs . Finally end of April my daily headaches were so bad I could not put my hear on a pillow, jaw pain all of my teeth hurt then one day my vision was really blurry. I was told by my eye dr to go to bascom Palmer in Miami, I live about three hours away,
They admitted me and started iv steroids, the dose was so high I got medication induced diabetes and required insulin. Fast forward to three months of tapering, I’m now at 20 mg os prednisone . 6 different meds from
The side effects .
My insurance finally approved a drug called tyrene. I am afraid to take it because of the side effects . I’m trying to hire a nurse who can sit with me for the first shot so I can be sure I don’t have anaphylaxis . I
Am by myself so it’s hard.
Anyway don’t give up. You know your body. I was told that I do not fit the type of someone who would have giant cell. Now it has pretty much ruined my life

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Interesting comment “you don’t look like the type who has GCA”. What does someone with GCA look like? I have it for 6 years now and other than looking 6 years older I feel like I look the same. It is a horrible autoimmune disease. No rhyme or reason why it attacks one person or another. Don’t let it rule your life. At least there are drugs that can help. Try discussing Actemra infusions. Infusions do help.

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Yes mine was in my right eye only. My vision in that eye is still blotchy and grey areas. That has not improved. Guess this is my new norm now. I am so thankful it was not worse. My Neuro Ophthalmologist did not want to put me on Actemra. No clue why. I went last week for my visit and she has me on 1 mg 3 times a day for 1 week, then 2 mg/day for 1 week, then down to 1 for 1 week. Then one every other day. I fell about a month ago and have been having terrible arm and shoulder pain. They checked it out and can not find anything wrong with it. Now the other arm is also hurting and I do believe it is pain from prednisone withdrawals. Good luck and God Bless you with this diagnosis. Thanks also for responding.

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I would get a second opinion and possibly a new neuro ophthalmologist.

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Myself as well. I have had PMR for well over a year now and been on Prednisone since Jan. 2022. Was tapering nicely when the jaw and head pain started on or about Jan. 21/23. Went to ER. They got hold of a Rheumatologist on call. She put me up to 60 mg. Prednisone and after 2-3 days the pains subsided. Then saw my own Rheumatologist who said biospy was inconclusive and started reducing the Prednisone to 50 mg. Needlesstosay, the pains were back within 3 days. Could not reach her (never can) and so went back up to 60 mg. for 5 days now. Seems to be alleviating so much of the pain and I will not start tapering yet. She is a "let's get down to 1 mg. as fast as we can" person. However, sleep is escaping me. Waking up around 3 and that's it for the night. I also have a sciatic nerve issue at the moment and Prednisone does not touch that, so Ibuprofen/Tylenol is my go to, but of course it's affecting the stomach. Darned if you do or don't. Went to Ophthamologist on Jan. 24. He could see no significant change in eyes; only that cataracts had grown and wee bit. Optic nerve looks good. Have a follow-up with him end of February. A little worrisome for me is that I've been a little out of breath, shaky particularly in the mornings (enough to make me sit down) and of course extremely fatigued and if I could actually get hold of my Rheumatologist I might also need some tests done for heart/artery issues - or not. All the best Laurie. ~ Deb

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This is late commentary, but hope you quit taking ibuprofen for pain. Tylenol is okay when you're on prednisone but no NSA IDs. Maybe someone else can benefit if they haven't been given this information. It's amazing what doctors don't bother to tell you.

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This is late commentary, but hope you quit taking ibuprofen for pain. Tylenol is okay when you're on prednisone but no NSA IDs. Maybe someone else can benefit if they haven't been given this information. It's amazing what doctors don't bother to tell you.

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I am blind in my left eye because of GCA. I have had PMR since 2017

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