Treatment for chronic Epstein-Barr virus (EBV)
My son has been suffering with Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) for over a year. I have taken him to an immunologist and infectious disease doctor with no answers. He is always tired and never feels well. He has relapsed with Mono twice in the last 10 months.
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I should also add that I have had a terrible pain in my spine which comes and goes in addition to painful but not swollen glands throughout my body.
Hi @katlyn57, @smcivor94 and @jeff49 -- welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. Thank you all for posting here on Connect. @katlyn57 and @smcivor94 in case you missed Jeff's encouraging post, here is a link to his earlier post on what helps him for chronic epstein barr:
-- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/treatment-for-chronic-epstein-barr/?pg=20#comment-252745
I'm hoping others will join in and offer suggestions on what helps them also.
Thanks @jeff49 ...I may try to go back on the monolaurin soon. Adrenal fatigue is when the adrenals are stressed therefore put out less cortisol and other hormones as they should. It is not recognized by conventional medicine. They believe your adrenals are flat out not working (Addison's Disease or secondary adrenal insufficiency or they are working well. There is no in between. Symptoms of low adrenals are debilitating fatigue, hypoglycemia, salt cravings, increased thirst. I have had all of those. I have read in the International Journal of Endocrinology that EBV can affect adrenal function even when the infection clears. ....I'm not giving up. I have filled out onlilne paper work to have a consult with Dr. Rodger Murphree.....Anyway, thank you for your encouraging words and for serving our country!
@katlyn57 It sounds like you have the right idea about going to an ND. I am disheartened when I hear comments from physicians like the one you mentioned. It's important to have a conventional doctor, but when it comes to fibromyalgia, CFS, EBV, chronic Lyme, and other mystery illnesses, conventional doctors are not equipped to help. I have yet to come across one that even wants to learn or investigate. You think they would want to find out why an otherwise healthy person doing all the right things they say to do (not smoking, rarely drinking, healthy diet, exercise) would develop a debilitating, life-altering illness. Sadly that is not the case. So we become our own advocates! I know you have read through many posts on here and may have come across some of mine, but he's worth mentioning again. You may want to check out https://yourfibrodoctor.com/ and watch some of his videos. Wishing you the best in this journey! You will be a stronger person because of it!
Hi @smcivor94 . I am sad for what you are going through but am glad you have chimed in on this forum. Obviously I cannot diagnose or treat, but I can share some of my story and what I have learned. My EBV story started around age 21 with a severe case of mono followed by a relapse. So my twenties were spent working part-time and limited social life due to unrelenting fatigue. My thirties went well except for 1 year with a relapse of EBV. I was married, raising a child, and thankfully only working part-time then. Forties started great! Trained myself to run a half marathon, was working out as I did in my thirties, working at a job I loved and BOOM! My EBV was back. I pushed myself through work and that was the only thing I did. I was too exhausted to enjoy weekends or even get groceries. I was getting ready for work on the floor for a few months. Luckily at that point I had a desk job but still was completely exhausting. So I relapsed on a relapse and had to leave my job. Sooo disappointed. But not as disappointed as I was in my doctor. I was having a lot of low cortisol symptoms and was asking her about some tests for my adrenals. When I asked her what she thought about this illness she said one word, "Exercise." Of course I would if I could. I was missing my time at the gym with friends. She actually documented in my chart that "maybe there is nothing wrong.." So I totally hear your frustration with your doctor thinking it is all in your head. They simply are not educated about this stuff. My blood work was "normal" except for active EBV antibodies but the infectious disease specialist ignored that saying, "Anyone can have antibodies to anything. Doesn't mean they have it." .........I know you said you have done a lot of research so some of what I mention you may already know. Have you been tested for EBV? Most adults have EBV in their bodies. However, some of us have a break in our immune system or some sort of stressor and the virus awakens. Stressors can be from our diet, infection, emotional stress, physical stress. Many find help from unconventional doctors such as naturopaths or functional medicine doctors. That may be worth looking into. Cutting processed sugars, caffeine, alcohol, processed foods can be beneficial for the immune system. As far as EBV goes some have been helped with monolaurin, L-lysine, antiviral herbs, antiviral meds (Valtrex), high dose vitamin C to name a few. I assume your doctor has put you on Vitamin D since your level was low. I recommend checking out RawlsMD.com, yourfibrodoctor.com, and ebvhelp.com. I could go on and on...you can check out my profile for some of my other posts that may be helpful for you. The main thing is be your own advocate. It sounds like you are at that point. We all usually end up there once we realize conventional medicine is not able to help us. Don't give up. It is not all in your head. Keep us posted.
Thank you for responding @mrmie I am 24 and I have not had an actual diagnosis of mono but I have always suffered from terrible sore throat and acute tonsillitis growing up. Prior to the onset of my current symptoms I was working part time as a waitress (I too have had to take leave) whilst completing my masters degree in law - so perhaps stress may play a part. Although I have not yet been tested for EBV, after researching recently I intend to ask my doctor to do so as many of the symptoms seem to fit my situation to a tee. I can recollect always suffering from fatigue with little ‘get up and go’ in me and finding myself needing a good 8 hours sleep at least! I have taken the liberty of supplementing myself with both vitamin C and B complex to aid my immune function alongside my vitamin D. My sister has confirmed EBV by an endocrinologist I don’t know if genetics can play part in susceptibility to the virus? But it’s certianly something I am looking into in order to get to the root of my health issues. Prior to this onset of illness I was physically healthy, apart from chronic migraines which I believe are hormone related due to my PCOS. Whatever this is it’s definitey viral but I have yet to put my finger on the cause! I’m hoping EBV is the cause just to have some peace of mind and move forward with aiding my recovery! Sorry for the long winded posts but I’ve found this forum extremely reassuring and somewhat comforting to hear people with similar experiences which confirms I am not going mad!
Thank you for your guidance and support I shall take your advice on board for sure! @mrmie
Beware of doctors who insist that this is all in your head and prescribe antidepressants. I had a similar situation here when I had a severe recurrence of CAEBV (Chronic Active Epstein Barr Syndrome) a few months ago. Fortunately when I lived back east my doctor who diagnosed me had other patients with CAEBV. He knew better than to say it was all in my head.. He also told me that I'd have to find what worked for me in handling the symptoms. Afte3r 20 years that still seems to be true. I have used acupuncture in the past; it helped. I just found a reputable acupuncturist here in Tucson, AZ. While not as fast as I'd like, it is helping. I also am taking Vit D3, Ubiquinol and Vit C. Today I started Monolaurin, suggested by Jeff's doctor ( jeff49 @jeff49 above). Don't give up on yourself. And don't let anyone tell you that the pain and fatigue and lack of energy you are experiencing is all in your head. It's not.
@jbri thank you for your kind words. It saddens me that doctors are unwilling to consider EBV as the cause of chronic illness, especially since it appears to have such a debilitating effect on individual lives. Personally, my life has been affected significantly. I can no longer walk my dog without pushing myself, even getting clothed most days I am ashamed to say takes me great time and maximum effort. I too miss out on a great deal of social events @mrmie due to the constant fatigue. I have medical insurance and intend to go private if my GP is not compassionate upon my next consultation.
@johnbishop Have you tried fresh air Golden Milk in ice cube form? How was it ?