Diagnosed with PMR 16 days ago.

Posted by billc1965 @billc1965, Jul 3 11:42am

After weeks of struggle, I was diagnosed with PMR on 17 June 2025, 16 days ago. The emergency doctor prescribed 20 mg of prednisone and he gave me two weeks worth. The first week it seemed to work well I started the day in a little bit of pain, but by mid morning 10-11 AM, I started to feel good After the first week however, it took longer and longer into the day before I would get any relief sometimes 3 to 4 in the afternoon. I had to call my primary care physician as a result, and after some discussion and hesitancy on his part, we upped the dose to 30 mg as of this past Saturday The first two days I felt like given that the dose had been raised, I was surprised to not get as much relief as I was expecting. But starting late Monday and then come Tuesday and Wednesday I was actually doing quite well. I would wake up a little sore and there was no decline from the time I took the medication to the point where it would then kick in so I was feeling rather optimistic. That was until last evening, 2 July, and into today. I started feeling much stiffer than I would’ve expected for the time of day and by the time I had gotten up in the morning, I was so stiff that I was back to a debilitated state. Not sure what to make of this. I would’ve thought that the 30 mg would’ve would’ve continued working like they had the two previous days but for some reason, I’ve just had a big setback. I do have a doctors appointment today but I do not know what’s gonna come of that appointment cause my doctor is very hesitant to play around with prednisone. Any suggestions would be helpful thank you.

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I went to my PCP in 2023 at first after MRI, X Rays, and CT Scan he was going to send me to a spinal doctor for pain management. I refused. He also put me on prednisone which worked but the PMR came back after each of the dosages. I finally got a rheumatologist appointment. placed on 20mg and tapper off in 2024. Monthly blood work and a bone scan followed. I been off prednisone for around a year and a half. But have been taking 200 mg of HCQ (the malaria drug they say would not work on Covid) Still see the rheumatologist yearly no PMR relapse. You need to see a specialist. Take care hope all goes well.

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Things I did daily only 2 months ago 🏃🏋️🚴🏻. Can’t wait to get back to it even if only at 50 percent.

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@redboat

A similar thing happened to me.

Was initially on 20 mg/day of prednisone due to PMR/GCA. This was good at first, but then the pain started creeping back over a few weeks. What happens is that your body senses the prednisone, which acts as synthetic cortisol, and so slowly stops making its own cortisol. This takes a few weeks, during which your pain will increase. In my case, after about a month, the inflammation was so severe that ER doctors then put me on 60 mg/day of prednisone due to an episode of double vision.

I recommend getting CRP and SED inflammation scores. If they are still high, increase the prednisone incrementally until the CRP and SED scores come down to near normal. Then you've found the level of prednisone you need. For me 60 mg/day was more than enough; I actually think 40 mg/day probably would have been enough.

In my case, I also started on weekly injections Actemra after about 5 weeks of 60 mg/day of prednisone. I then tapered off the prednisone over a period of 6 months while continuing the Actemra. I ended up staying on Actemra for 2 years. It was very effective for me and I suffered virtually no side effects.

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billc1965 | @billc1965 | 1 minute ago
Thank you. Never considered that the prednisone in early days worked with fully functioning adrenal glands that decline as we continue with prednisone, hence the setbacks…..

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@redboat

A similar thing happened to me.

Was initially on 20 mg/day of prednisone due to PMR/GCA. This was good at first, but then the pain started creeping back over a few weeks. What happens is that your body senses the prednisone, which acts as synthetic cortisol, and so slowly stops making its own cortisol. This takes a few weeks, during which your pain will increase. In my case, after about a month, the inflammation was so severe that ER doctors then put me on 60 mg/day of prednisone due to an episode of double vision.

I recommend getting CRP and SED inflammation scores. If they are still high, increase the prednisone incrementally until the CRP and SED scores come down to near normal. Then you've found the level of prednisone you need. For me 60 mg/day was more than enough; I actually think 40 mg/day probably would have been enough.

In my case, I also started on weekly injections Actemra after about 5 weeks of 60 mg/day of prednisone. I then tapered off the prednisone over a period of 6 months while continuing the Actemra. I ended up staying on Actemra for 2 years. It was very effective for me and I suffered virtually no side effects.

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Have you stopped Actemra and been able to stay off prednisone? I have been on Actemra for more than 6 years with virtually no side effects. Whenever my Actemra infusions have been held for more than 6 weeks, my symptoms return along with increased inflammation markers. My rheumatologist sees no need and has no plan to discontinue Actemra.

Maybe I need to try again to see if Actemra can be stopped. My problem is that multiple different conditions could flare up again. I would have to convene a committee of multiple medical specialists to see if they could all agree with a plan to stop Actemra.

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Sorry you’re going through this. I also did not respond well to 20 mg, I was referred to a rheumatologist who increased pred to 40 mg, and after a couple of months added methotrexate, which eventually led to decreasing the prednisone (can’t get below 15 mg without a flare). She wants me to start weekly injections of actemra but my drug plan doesn’t cover it for PMR (although it will for other diagnoses 🙄). PMR is different for everyone and sometimes a rheumatologist just has more knowledge in complicated cases. Good luck ❤️

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@sticksandbugs

Sorry you’re going through this. I also did not respond well to 20 mg, I was referred to a rheumatologist who increased pred to 40 mg, and after a couple of months added methotrexate, which eventually led to decreasing the prednisone (can’t get below 15 mg without a flare). She wants me to start weekly injections of actemra but my drug plan doesn’t cover it for PMR (although it will for other diagnoses 🙄). PMR is different for everyone and sometimes a rheumatologist just has more knowledge in complicated cases. Good luck ❤️

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"She wants me to start weekly injections of actemra but my drug plan doesn’t cover it for PMR (although it will for other diagnoses🙄)"
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This is why treatment shouldn't be restricted to a certain diagnosis. If your IL-6 levels are increased then it seems reasonable to use a medication that targets and blocks the effects of elevated IL-6 levels regardless of the diagnosis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK500320/#:~:text=However%2C%20excessive%20or%20continuous%20IL,for%20deregulated%20IL%2D6%20overexpression.
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Prednisone doesn't precisely target any autoimmune condition. Prednisone is broadly used as an immunosuppressant for many conditions. This broad approach is sometimes referred to as a "shotgun approach" compared to more targeted therapies like biologics.

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@dadcue

Have you stopped Actemra and been able to stay off prednisone? I have been on Actemra for more than 6 years with virtually no side effects. Whenever my Actemra infusions have been held for more than 6 weeks, my symptoms return along with increased inflammation markers. My rheumatologist sees no need and has no plan to discontinue Actemra.

Maybe I need to try again to see if Actemra can be stopped. My problem is that multiple different conditions could flare up again. I would have to convene a committee of multiple medical specialists to see if they could all agree with a plan to stop Actemra.

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My last Actemra injection was June 9, 2025 and before that I was injecting every 6-7 weeks. I don't plan to use any more. I've been off prednisone since late 2023.

I've got a stash of prednisone, plus one more shot of Actemra in the frig, in case of relapse.

So far, so good.

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Like you I was diagnosed with PMR around a similar time (July 7). Went to the GP as like all I just couldn't understand why I was so debilitated with moving and pain. GP expected PMR and arranged blood tests but not for another 2 days so I had to sit through some serious discomfort for a few days until the blood tests were done and medication was prescribed.

During those non medication days I took anywhere from 5 mins to 15 mins to get off the sofa. Weak and extreme pain. Doctor started me on 15mg Prednisolone. She implied I'd see big differences once started. She actually said I'd feel 100% better.

Needless to say I'm unsure if the dosage is high enough or if she's correct in her diagnosis... Although reading through your comments I presume she is as you all sound like you suffer as I do.

I notice for sure improvement since taking the meds 8 days ago now. Mornings definitely suck. Takes me around 90 mins to walk upright and be able to wash my hair without pain. But then as the day goes I get better and better. Feel almost pain free by afternoon and remain moderately pain free until bedtime around 10/11pm.

What I don't know is if it normal to still not have full range of motion in my hips for example. I can't pull my knees to my chest. Pain in the hip joint is too much. I struggle to bend over enough to easily put socks on? I obviously can get socks on but not like I'd consider a normal person does using both hands on one foot to guide the sock on.

Seems like my starting dose is pretty low and I'm wondering if those who have success feel normal in the sense like they did pre diagnosis? Appreciate maybe not the same energy or strength but... Can you put socks on without difficulty or pain haha?!

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@ckfitness

Like you I was diagnosed with PMR around a similar time (July 7). Went to the GP as like all I just couldn't understand why I was so debilitated with moving and pain. GP expected PMR and arranged blood tests but not for another 2 days so I had to sit through some serious discomfort for a few days until the blood tests were done and medication was prescribed.

During those non medication days I took anywhere from 5 mins to 15 mins to get off the sofa. Weak and extreme pain. Doctor started me on 15mg Prednisolone. She implied I'd see big differences once started. She actually said I'd feel 100% better.

Needless to say I'm unsure if the dosage is high enough or if she's correct in her diagnosis... Although reading through your comments I presume she is as you all sound like you suffer as I do.

I notice for sure improvement since taking the meds 8 days ago now. Mornings definitely suck. Takes me around 90 mins to walk upright and be able to wash my hair without pain. But then as the day goes I get better and better. Feel almost pain free by afternoon and remain moderately pain free until bedtime around 10/11pm.

What I don't know is if it normal to still not have full range of motion in my hips for example. I can't pull my knees to my chest. Pain in the hip joint is too much. I struggle to bend over enough to easily put socks on? I obviously can get socks on but not like I'd consider a normal person does using both hands on one foot to guide the sock on.

Seems like my starting dose is pretty low and I'm wondering if those who have success feel normal in the sense like they did pre diagnosis? Appreciate maybe not the same energy or strength but... Can you put socks on without difficulty or pain haha?!

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"Seems like my starting dose is pretty low and I'm wondering if those who have success feel normal in the sense like they did pre diagnosis?"
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I once told my doctor that I felt "more normal" when I took prednisone. I will always remember how she responded. She said, "normal people don't need prednisone." For emphasis she added, "people who take prednisone to feel normal are not normal."

A sense of normality is what we wish for. However ... for the time we need prednisone ... things will not be completely normal.

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@ckfitness

Like you I was diagnosed with PMR around a similar time (July 7). Went to the GP as like all I just couldn't understand why I was so debilitated with moving and pain. GP expected PMR and arranged blood tests but not for another 2 days so I had to sit through some serious discomfort for a few days until the blood tests were done and medication was prescribed.

During those non medication days I took anywhere from 5 mins to 15 mins to get off the sofa. Weak and extreme pain. Doctor started me on 15mg Prednisolone. She implied I'd see big differences once started. She actually said I'd feel 100% better.

Needless to say I'm unsure if the dosage is high enough or if she's correct in her diagnosis... Although reading through your comments I presume she is as you all sound like you suffer as I do.

I notice for sure improvement since taking the meds 8 days ago now. Mornings definitely suck. Takes me around 90 mins to walk upright and be able to wash my hair without pain. But then as the day goes I get better and better. Feel almost pain free by afternoon and remain moderately pain free until bedtime around 10/11pm.

What I don't know is if it normal to still not have full range of motion in my hips for example. I can't pull my knees to my chest. Pain in the hip joint is too much. I struggle to bend over enough to easily put socks on? I obviously can get socks on but not like I'd consider a normal person does using both hands on one foot to guide the sock on.

Seems like my starting dose is pretty low and I'm wondering if those who have success feel normal in the sense like they did pre diagnosis? Appreciate maybe not the same energy or strength but... Can you put socks on without difficulty or pain haha?!

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It took me a couple of weeks on prednisolone to feel much better. I recall complaining to my doctor after about a week that my symptoms were only 70% better and I had expected more. Around that time I also started splitting the dose, taking 2mg of the daily dose in the early evening with dinner, and that did relieve the morning pain.

So everyone is different and it can take a little time to come good. Some stiffness and minor aches can stay, and some of us don't have full range of motion, but the objective is to remove pain as much as possible, and to reduce inflammation. So you may not regain full range of motion immediately. I see some people go immediately for a higher dose, rather than waiting a little or splitting the dose. I'm glad I didn't go any higher. That would have meant a longer time reducing and tapering down, and more risk of bone deterioration.

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