SIBO…did it ever go away?

Posted by Kendra @kendra75, May 13 3:41pm

Hi everyone. Very long story short I recently came back from the Mayo pain rehabilitation program for chronic pain from IBS for the last few years. My question is: while going to many doctors for a diagnosis I did test positive for SIBO. The doctor didn’t think it was the cause of my symptoms however we wanted to treat it of course. I did two rounds of the antibiotic that they often give for SIBO. I was never retested and I never felt any different after the antibiotic. Is it possible that it never went away and could be contributing to my IBS symptoms? Thanks so much for your help! I know you’re not all doctors but would love opinions. Thanks.

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@cheyne

Hi,
Concurrently while restricting my diet from enabling foods. It was several days before a change started and I was provided with a second dose to make sure SIBO had been cleared. I noticed an odd taste which lasted a few weeks after treatment otherwise plain sailing. SIBO is one of the worst things I have had to endure, pain is nothing compared to the discomfort of SIBO and what it wreaks on you. I have had 3 bouts and one near miss getting onto it immediately after recognising the symptoms early. Since taking the antibiotics I have remainded clear and not giving it a second thought. While I'm well aware taking medication there are always side effects and everybody reacts differently to them, the consequences of not medicating can be far more devastating and uncomfortable. I tend to stop medication when I think the job is done but with SIBO there was never that thought.
Massive doses of antibiotics have destroyed my digestive system but kept me alive, I often wonder would death have been the better alternative, but at the time a chance at life seemed the logical way to go. Twelve years on and dealing with many health problems since but there really isn't a substitute for life. I endure multiple health issues daily and their side effects, some the consequences of medication and some not, the really big side effect of medication is I'm still alive, I think I can live with that, in fact I am and I'm still productive!
Incidentaly a severe bout of Champylobacter was the route of all my troubles, starting with dead kidneys for 18 hours and left with just hours to live before the Champo got me. Many times I have questioned my choice particularly with severe flare ups, but on a good day what a stupid question to be asking myself. I'm alive, I can walk, talk and cause trouble, so my wife tells me I'm OK and having a good day. Who am I to argue!
Cheers

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Please look into mast cell activation. My daughter had recurring SIBO until mast cell was diagnosed and treated. It is a lifetime of treatment but totally worth it.

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I’ve never heard of “mast cell activation”. Can you please describe that and what the test for it is? I live in the USA and it seems that you have access to much more sophisticated GI practitioners. It’s like no one here understands or wants to treat IBS issues

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@ggr

My daughter's SIBO stopped reoccurring when she was diagnosed and treated for mast cell activation.

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Wow - I'm so sorry for your myriad health issues ! (By the way -what country do you live in?)
Please Stay well and thank you for all the advice! _helen M

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@hmm099

I’ve never heard of “mast cell activation”. Can you please describe that and what the test for it is? I live in the USA and it seems that you have access to much more sophisticated GI practitioners. It’s like no one here understands or wants to treat IBS issues

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When my daughter was diagnosed it was actually by a neurologist. Doesn't matter the speciality if they can figure it out. She was referred to him by the gastroenterologist at Mayo Scottsdale. Her current doctor is an allergist. Unless there has been a change in the last 3 or 4 years, most gastro doctors don't know about it. It can be other issues than just the gut. There is a book by Dr. Lawrence B Afrin titled Never Bet Against Occam, published in 2016. About his journey treating people that other doctors gave up on. Probably the first who put two and two together with patients who had different symptoms but an overabundance of mast cells. The book is worth your time. I ordered it on Amazon. She lives in Virginia, but her primary knew nothing about it. She has medication she takes before meals and bedtime. Other allergy meds. She has 3 other autoimmune diseases. People with fibromyalgia also have extra mast cells in their skin. So you see that it is complicated! My understanding is that IBS is really a symptom--not a diagnosis. Hope this helps.

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@hmm099

I’ve never heard of “mast cell activation”. Can you please describe that and what the test for it is? I live in the USA and it seems that you have access to much more sophisticated GI practitioners. It’s like no one here understands or wants to treat IBS issues

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Incidentally I don't think there is any one test. Testing probably rules out other things.

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@hmm099

I hear you but living with this diarrhea, cramps, bloating and nausea 24/7 lasting for months is excruciating I am afraid to eat anything. I’ve seen 3 different GI docs, had abdominal CT scan, stool samples, Abdominal X-ray, breath tests, and FODMAP test. Tested negative for celiac, lactose intolerance and lysine. I have to cancel social plans constantly which is effecting my quality of life At this point the desperation for an answer has kicked in.

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This is probably gonna come across as silly. I don't mean it to be.

Try practicing the first part of the serenity prayer - "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change."

I never thought about the connection between serenity and acceptance, until I did. It's a simple daily practice - some would call it a prayer. Whatever works.

All the best to you.

Joe

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@heyjoe415

This is probably gonna come across as silly. I don't mean it to be.

Try practicing the first part of the serenity prayer - "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change."

I never thought about the connection between serenity and acceptance, until I did. It's a simple daily practice - some would call it a prayer. Whatever works.

All the best to you.

Joe

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Thanks Joe.. I’ve been doing that for months and sometimes it’s just really trying ……..thanks for reading

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@hmm099

Thanks Joe.. I’ve been doing that for months and sometimes it’s just really trying ……..thanks for reading

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You're very welcome. I've been there with chronic pain, like right now. I'm getting my left shoulders replaced in three weeks, it is very painful, and I have to stop NSAIDs because they are driving up creatinine levels, so the drugs are having an outsized, but temporary, impact on my kidneys.

Sometimes I just say that serenity prayer. The pain is still there, but for a little while it takes my mind off that subject. Some days are better than others!

Joe

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@bkatz43

I have read several folks here commenting about their SIBO treatments with the various forms of antibiotics. I am not a doc, however, I have read research papers saying that SIBO comes and goes, irrespective of any treatment. I say, do you really want all those antibiotics in your gut knowing the longer term issues? For all we know, antibiotics we took in our earlier years may indeed have contributed to our now suffering with SIBO.

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That was my experience with SIBO: the antibiotic treatment didn't help at all. (And it cost me $2,000 too.)

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I have heard L. Reutori helps. It's in Lifeway Kefir. However, please see your medical team bc this is a serious infection.

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