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Switching from Orgovyx to Bicalutamide

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@brianjarvis

I’ve never seen anyone on these forums mention of replacing Orgovyx with Casodex.

Bicalutimude (Casodex) is typically used for a specific purpose . Bicalutimide is given for a short period of time prior to starting LHRH-agonist hormone therapies (like Eligard, Lupron, etc.), in order to prevent testosterone (tumor) flare (https://www.oncolink.org/cancers/prostate/treatments/tumor-flare-in-prostate-cancer).

In English —> After starting hormone therapy, the body realizes testosterone (T) are slowly dropping, and tells the body to produce more T to offset the slow drop. This may cause a brief “spike” in T which can result in what is called "tumor flare” or “testosterone flare.” - not a good thing to happen since prostate cancer feeds on T.

This temporary flare can be managed by first taking Bicalutimide which blocks T from attaching to prostate cancer cells, which reduces the risk of tumor flare when hormone therapy is started. Tumor flare does not last long and will go away as the T level goes further down after a hormone injection.

On the other hand, when starting with Relugolix (Orgovyx) or Firmagon, T levels drop so quickly that the body doesn’t have time to realize that T levels are dropping, thus the “testosterone flare” effect doesn’t occur.

I have often read of replacing Orgovyx (once T & PSA levels are already suppressed) with one of the 1st generation hormone therapies (like: Lupron, Eligard, etc.).

As for the ADT side-effects, most experience similar ones with Lupron, Eligard, etc. as they did with Orgovyx.

> Did your doctors recommend resistance training exercise prior to starting ADT in order to minimize the side-effects? (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YE61HSAsFb0)

(I started on Bicalutimide prior to Eligard and proton radiation for my localized 4+3=7. ADT side-effects were minimized due to the resistance-training regimen advised by my medical oncologist. Now four years later, my PSA varies between 0.35-0.55; most recent PSA ten days ago was 0.473.)

Good luck!

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Biclutamide is definitely a drug that can be used in different ways.

A guy I know has gone off and on Biclutamide for over five years. Every time his PSA would rise, he would start back on it, And when it got to undetectable, he would stop it. He eventually had to go to a second drug, but he got a lot of use out of Biclutamide.

I tried to convince him to go on a real ADT drug, But the side effects were Something he would say made them undesirable.