@psanchez33617,
@lhankins
I have not done any research but but am sure it is possible to find a
vibration plate with similar frequency range, amplitude, as the
more expensive model.
If your goal in buying a vibration plate is to increase
bone density. -
there is a video with Dr Belinda Beck - her study shows no bone density
gain with Marodyne.
However, your choice to buy a vibration plate might be other than bone density,
such as muscle relaxation or other reason.
I am also putting off osteoporis medication. I may or may not ever take them.
The past year I have watched my diet and done exercizes with my physiotherapist.
He is now recommending I go to the gym, and has set me up with exercizes
- in addition to what I do at home -
with careful monitoring from on-site gym trainers.
My gains in a year are as follows: spine 5.6% and hips 6.4%
@psanchez33617 can you share with me which brand and amount of Fortibone
you are taking.
The two brands that are on my possible list so far: claims to contain type 1 Fortibone,
no added vitamins, herbs or other supplement.
I would track how effective it is, by making no other dietary change.
The only other lifestyle change would be upping my exercize program.
Am interested in learning more and eventually taking K2 M7:
Sources seem to be - Natto consumption - or supplements that contain natto -
your own gut microbiome -
certain foods with M7 (aged cheeses, and more)
Margaret Martin has articles on it.
Consumer Lab writes up about it.
One large favorable study done in 2022: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9237441/#s8
at bottom of study:
this work was funded by Synergia Life Sciences Pvt. Ltd., Mumbai, India.
In addition - some researchers mentioned are
" employees of Viridis Biopharma Pvt. Ltd., Mumbai, India."
and others are employees of Synergia Life Sciences Pvt. Ltd.,
Studies on supplements and vitamins to a large part are funded by
vested interested pharmaceutical companies.
It is so difficult to get an unbiased opinion.
The motivation is pure profits,
Results, shown us, can be skewed.
It is so disappointing and frustrating, to figure out what to do,
what to take.
Even having a dietitian would not help much, as they would answer,
as they have to me, inconclusive.
So, fellow seekers, factual and appropriate information for
each one of us is a rocky road.
I'd like to mention an interview I saw with Dr. Avorn about a
book he's just published: called Rethinking Medications.
In the interview, he mentioned how practically all studies are
funded by pharmaceuticals, and that the FDA is badly funded
and is not doing its job of reviewing studies, but
accepts whatever the studies summarizes.
I am looking to read this book from my local library.
@bevlevvancouverbc
@thankins
Our medical system is very frustrating. When I was growing up, functional medicine was not a thing, it was THE thing. Drugs were not handed out like candy, granted, knowledge was much more limited but doctors were not eager to get you out the door with meds so that they could get on to the next patient. To the credit of today's physician, there are lots of folks that just want a pill that will fix whatever the problem may or could be.
With this said, being diagnosed at 39 with osteopenia was concerning, but even then, I was hesitant about drugs. Back then, they didnt understand or know their side effects. I am glad that I made that decision now and went from 39 into my 60's with minimal bone loss by being a gym rat and eating what I thought was how I should eat. When I fractured my lower lumbar the first time, I took a serious look at drug therapy but did not get along with anything that the doc gave me. We decided to try Forteo as it is a parathyroid drug that stays in your system for only a short time. That was a complete nightmare. I stopped taking it after 3 months due to a raging reaction that made me look like I fell into a pit full of red ants.
About 6 months prior to Forteo, I found out about Fortibone. My dexi in Feb showed increased bone that is right in line with the studies that I found on Google Scholar. I am now taking Sparkle Wellness's version but plan to switch. I am interested in a recommendation from a guy named Kevin Ellis, who calls himself the Bone Coach kevin.ellis@bonecoach.com. He has an arsenal of bone building amo, one being collagen with fortibone in it. It also has other peptides that support cartilage and muscles and vitamins. I am also looking at algaecal which has collagen with vitamins.
I am finally able to do weight bearing exercises again after fracturing my back 3 times. I am feeling stronger, no longer frail (another reported benefit of fortibone), so I am claiming that as progress.
I think one of you asked how much fortibone? Sparkle has 10mg in a serving.
In regards to the vibration plate, I am liking what I read even if it doesnt build bone. There seems to be a lot of other benefits that win my attention. I just dont know if I am ready for the necessary investment.