Biden will be here soon: Former President metastatic prostate cancer

Posted by peterj116 @peterj116, 4 days ago

"On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of 9 (Grade Group 5) with metastasis to the bone."
"While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management. The President and his family are reviewing treatment options with his physicians," the statement continued.

As a non-American watching the last 4 years from afar, I make no comment.

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There is no conspiracy and no cover-up simply because the public did not have an inherent right to know. That said, the screwed up the messaging. You cannot determine if the cancer is castrate resistant in two days. They were probably concerned about the optics when saying that Biden had been diagnosed weeks or months ago.

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@retireditguy

My older brother got aggressive PCa around age 50. Consequently, I got the "get your psa test every year" talk from him back then and that's how I found mine before it got out of the prostate (even though I had both cribriform and IDC). Since I've been diagnosed, I've spoken with several of my friends and the general response is they're pretty ignorant of PCa and aren't even sure if they're getting a psa test during routine blood work. I certainly don't know, but I strongly suspect unless Biden had someone in his circle who had prostate cancer, he probably was just like everyone else; generally ignorant of it and just assuming their doctor was doing whatever was needed at annual physicals. Since it's now been revealed his last psa test was in 2014, it seems his providers were following the "stop testing over 70" guideline. Frankly, without my brothers experience I suspect I'd have done the same. Let's hope Bidens story helps generate more awareness of the changes needed going forward.

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Very helpful. And a periodic reminder that prostate cancer doesn't hit every group equally. If you're Black, you should probably start PSA testing much earlier, even around age 40, because it hits people with African ancestry earlier and harder. The previous PSA screening guidelines (before 2012) were based on studying groups made up primarily of white people like me, and Black participants often got lost in the statistical aggregation.

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@sundancerdb78

Peter I understand what you are saying about it being intrusive! But how simple is a PSA Test? I had not been checked in several years! I just wanted to ease my mind! I had gone through Stage IV colon cancer 25 years ago, so cancer is always on my mind!
Don't you think a simple PSA Test would have caught Biden's cancer long before it got worse!
Thanks,
Sundance, aka, RB

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"Don't you think a simple PSA Test would have caught Biden's cancer long before it got worse!"

Yes, it might have, although the aggressive type of prostate cancer can develop and spread to bones so fast that it sometimes happens between annual PSA tests (as was the case with one of my hospital roommates).

Still, PSA screening is very simple, cheap, and non-invasive blood test (it's not like they have to more-or-less crush a sensitive part of our body in a vice, as happens with women getting mammograms), so there's no excuse for the 2012 recommendation to stop or delay PSA screening. As I wrote earlier, if the problem was overtreatment, then just stop overtreating.

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@northoftheborder

The political conspiracy theories I mentioned were speculating on so-called "coverups" in President Biden's medical history. This forum isn't the place for partisan political bickering (there's plenty of that in social media like Twitter-X and Facebook, if people feel the need).

On the other hand, the reduction in PSA screening and subsequent surge in de-novo cases of metastatic prostate cancer are, as you rightly mention, documented facts that have affected many of us here in the forum. 😢

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My wife also pointed out that they stop doing PAP smears real early too in a woman’s life- that can add up to Cervical Cancer she told me. Ditto for PCa screening.

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@sundancerdb78

Peter I understand what you are saying about it being intrusive! But how simple is a PSA Test? I had not been checked in several years! I just wanted to ease my mind! I had gone through Stage IV colon cancer 25 years ago, so cancer is always on my mind!
Don't you think a simple PSA Test would have caught Biden's cancer long before it got worse!
Thanks,
Sundance, aka, RB

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Just mind-reading here, but I don't think they're concerned about a blood test so much as the can of worms it could open if the result isn't good.

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@northoftheborder

Routine PSA screening wasn't the standard recommendation for many years, as a knee-jerk reaction to overtreatment of low-grade PCa 20+ years ago. I've still had smug jerks explaining to me online why it isn't necessary, based probably an outdated example from their intro stats class. 😕

Fortunately, many doctors kept ordering the test anyway, and now the recommendation is starting to shift back after the predictably-disastrous consequences.

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Of all the frustrating arguments you can have online, this is one of them. It’s just beyond comprehension that a doctor would recommend skipping a PSA test.

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@peterj116

Just mind-reading here, but I don't think they're concerned about a blood test so much as the can of worms it could open if the result isn't good.

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That is certainly a possible reason if he makes his political future is more important than his prostate health!

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@lag

Here is a link to an article in this morning's NYT that has all the facts about the dates of Biden's last PSA test and of his recent diagnosis. This clears up the conspiracy theories out there.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/briefing/biden-cancer-diagnosis.html

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Political positions aside, the quote in the article from MD Anderson, "Some cancers go from nonexistent to metastatic in the year between screening tests. Others don’t even show up on a P.S.A. test", suggest that even guidelines for active surveillance may not be enough to prevent some aggressive cancers from moving really quickly.

To me its an additional wake up call to trust but verify the issues in your body regardless of your age as quality of life can be fleeting. My brother had colon cancer 20 years ago, prostate cancer 2 years ago, pancreatic cancer 1 year ago, his spleen removed and part of his pancreas removed. Friday he had his leg removed due to an infection that spread and went from his foot to his leg. He is still surviving. He did not exercise or live that healthy a life. He is 75 and still fighting hard, something I am not sure I could fight through if it were me.

Our medical life needs to be a collaboration. I will question everything with my doctors, regardless of my age. Nobody wants to be in a position that forces them to decide on limited quality of life choices.

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@surftohealth88

Yes - again, not the second most deadliest cancer in general. It causes the most deaths because it is the most common cancer in men , not because it is deadliest.

For example , 5 year survival rate for PC is 97% and about 23% for lung cancer, not to mention pancreatic (13%) etc.

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Yes so much news coverage with comments that are discouraging for those fighting this disease. After 10years of PSA testing the count became erratically increasing. 3 biopsies later the Dr used a new test yet to be approved in US but used in Britain and cancer was verified. Removal and local radiation-
16 years later
Bone metastasis. Now on hormone treatment bone treatment Xgeva infusion and Xtandi. First follow-up testing in a couple weeks. Hoping for good result indicating success in this treatment plan. Anyone else using this treatment.

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@wooldridgec

The standard of not checking your PSA after 70 or 75 is not political. It is just plain wrong. It is not just a standard of checking after 70-75. It is also not checking in your 30's and 40's. I ask my son who is now 34 to get checked every year. I remember going to my doctor and him telling me that PSA blood tests give false positives and that the medical community does not want to have men's PSA checked before 40 years of age. That was garbage information. I remember that my doctors would check my testosterone and they would consistently say my free testosterone levels were dropping. Because prostate cancer cells were taking their energy from my free testosterone. I am not bitter, but I am more informed. I would not wish this disease on the worst person in the world. The only good that might come out of this is maybe more money will be available for cancer research - which will lead to more treatments and hopefully a cure. Not just prostate cancer but for all cancer types. Because right now - I do not see much progress being made for the treatment of metastatic prostate cancer. It feels like after Pluvicto treatment, approval of Nubeqa and other ARSI's for castrate sensitive prostate cancer patients, and a few additional medications used to treat men with BRAC1 and BRAC2, there has not been much progress. We need a safe medication that reverses or prevents Castrate Resistance.

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My hubby asked to have his PSA checked about three years ago. His doctor said they don’t usually test at his age, which was 69 at the time. Fast forward three years. Hubby is having urinary issues. Go to his PCP, a new doctor, and asked to have his PSA checked. Doctor said they don’t typically test at his age. Symptoms are usually age related. Well, PSA came back elevated. His prostate is huge, with a volume of 156, and MRI, IsoPSA, and PHI all point to PCa.
His biopsy is next month, and will give us a definitive diagnosis.

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