Non Operable Glioblastoma 4: Tips for chemotherapy and radiotherapy?

Posted by bellamarq @bellamarq, Apr 23 9:45pm

Hi everyone
I have a non operable glioblastoma and wanted to see if anyone else has managed just with chemotherapy and radiotherapy? I haven’t started treatment yet.

Also tips for chemotherapy and radiotherapy to get through it?

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Ellen's physical capabilities were "normal" for about 9 months after her surgery. The surgery removed the left front of her brain, which impacted her memory. She then could not remember simple tasks and needed to relearn tasks like tying her shoes.
The last 8 months her physical abilities started a slow decline after the cancer appeared on the right side of her brain and impacted motor skills.
She went from walking to a cane then walking sticks, a walker and finally a wheel chair. The last 3 weeks she was bed ridden.

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Profile picture for kylebar @kylebar

I am sorry to read about your wife’s diagnosis. My husband had two GBM tumors. He was diagnosed in April of 2022. They did not remove either tumor because they said they would just grow back and they wouldn’t be able to get all of the tumors anyway. We did the TMZ and radiation. He did not have the “good” genetic markers so the TMZ didn’t help. The radiation made him much worse very quickly and we only were able to do about 9 of the 30 treatments. I don’t mean to be a downer but I just wanted to let you know what might happen. The doctors never told us much about what to expect and I was never able to find others going through the same thing to ask them about what to expect. It was all new to both of us and we had virtually no support. My best advice is to never argue anymore and just enjoy what time you have left with her. That could be a few months or a few years. Just enjoy it as much as possible. Some GBM patients are doing better with newer treatments these days that we didn’t have when he was diagnosed. My husband only lasted three months. While it was not fun watching his decline, it was my honor to take care of him in his time of need. I was with him for better or worse and I weathered the “worse” at the end and did my best to comfort him. I wish you both the best.

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Thanks for the reply. We (she) have now completed a week of treatment and fortunately no major issues so far. I’m so frustrated when I hear stories from people who feel like they have not had good experiences with the medical community. As a doctor myself, perhaps I am treated differently but our oncologists have both been very detailed about what to expect and made sure we were referred to a palliative care team to assess our needs. Although my insurance wouldn’t cover the University, it has paid almost everything else we have needed. I’m not sure if my wife will be a long term survivor but we are definitely trying to spend quality time. She is no longer the woman I married because this tumor has knocked out the best parts of her personality and that is heartbreaking. One way or the other we will try to make the time she has count.

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I hope she does well with treatment. We had “decent” care but there were things that could have gone better. I do know of two people who have had very good lives with GBM and for many years. So there is some hope. I am glad you are trying to spend quality time with her. And I know what you mean when you say she isn’t the same person you married. My husband was very different after he had his surgery. His personality was different. I would see his old self at times but it was an adjustment to see his new personality. He got worse of course the longer it went on. Near the end when I saw his old facial expressions, I would be so happy. I would ask him to make the expression again so I could see his old self. He would do it and then usually just go back to sleep. It was very sad. It has been three years and I still feel like I just lost him. We were together 25 years. He was actually diagnosed on our 25th anniversary of our meeting. I asked him to marry me after he was diagnosed in hopes of getting his mind off of the bad news. We did finally marry in the hospital and he passed away 31 days later. It was not an easy task to make that happen but I got it done and I was happy for the both of us. We also had just moved into his dream home two weeks before he was diagnosed. He never got to enjoy the house which is one reason this has been more difficult for me I think. I wish you both the best.

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I had surgery, but there were 2 more tumors that were in operable. I felt different after the surgery. I couldn’t even remember my prayers. Have patience please. It will take awhile, but have faith that everything will be ok. This was Sept 2023.

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Profile picture for jharlan @jharlan

Just diagnosed. Scared tto death. Who is your dr?

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@jharlan, were you or a loved one recently diagnosed with a brain tumor? Can you share more? How are you doing?

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My 47 yr old son had a Glioblastomas tumor. He had a seizure which after going to the hospital found that he had the tumor. He had surgery to remove it then radiation and chemo about a month later then a new mri which looked good. Then after a stronger dose of chemo for a week. Wait another month for another mri with no changes thank God! Then he was feeling great and climbed a wet later and fell and broke his knee..he is dealing with that now..which is more painful. 4 months now and mri is not changed! Let's pray that this continues!

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@jharlan, were you or a loved one recently diagnosed with a brain tumor? Can you share more? How are you doing?

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Had a tumor last march 2024.right frontal lobe.two weeks after that brain bleeder. The tumor pushed my brain to the left until I finally collapsed, was a long road. Beat the cancer and doing quite well.

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Profile picture for dbcondrey @dbcondrey

my husband was dx'd in 1/2024, given a year with treatment of radiation for 6 weeks & oral chemo. His symptoms were so elusive that during the process, he rarely felt any different. He told the doc, it was hard to believe he had it, but mri's don't lie, and it is deep within the brain stem. At the middle of march when he was done , he still felt good, walking every day. But by April everything hit him like a ton of bricks, and he has stuggled now since then with ongoing fatiuge "no drive' , episodic nausea/headaches, but its the fatigue that has been disabling to hisQOL. He was however still ambulatory, and tried the optune but it didn't really work for him. ( the process of it,) we don't know if it really changed anything. He always looked better on paper, ie labs and mri were not too much impacted. But in Aug, there was some disease progression/edema so he started incenter chemo every 2 weeks. It was determined that there would be no more radiation after its first bout of tx. This past Dec, he started to decline in mobility and cogntively. ( he always had short term memory loss even before dx). And in Jan after discussion with md's it was suggested that the toxcity ( of chemo)was causing more harm than good and oddly again the 3 month labs/mris were all stable. So he went off all meds. no one could tell us how long it takes to clear out, but I would say it was finally by 1st week of april his skin color was the first to return to normal. NOW this doesnot mean any improvement in symptoms, he now is w/c to chair, still fatigued and appetite wax'es and wanes. HOWEVER< last week the MRI compared to Dec, once again shows no disease progression or swelling, and labs blood counts re all good . But as the md says it is deep within the brain stem on one hand it was a slow moving mass i thinkhe was symptomatic for a couple of years before final dx in 1/2024. So we take it one day at a time, he is comfortable in his own home, i am able to get aides through the VA ( he was declared disabled by agent orange by prostate cancer dx, 6 months before the brain cancer. ) Has it made me wonder whether it was worth it to do the initial tx, or to have taken the 3month prognosis at that time, with potentially a better quality of life. Maybe, but you know you make the best decision at the time, given all the facts. I m a former dialysis socialworker, i am pretty savv y re; quality of lif,e end of life, and we had had discussions prior to dx. about what we expected from each other and our daughter as power of health care attorneys. But is sad to see him in this slow death, he told e the other day, this is no life , I thinkyou have to feel confident with your medical teaam, maybe get a second opinion re surgery. Ours was very candid that its position was so unique it would have likely left far more disabled. we live in KY but we are from Mass we thought of getting a second opinion in Boston, but he really struggled with that, and opted to stay here, where he felt he would be more comfortable and once again there are no magic bullets. The one thing that bothers me and while we are grateful that prostate cancer made va disabled it was just by chance because i urged him to apply for agent orange. The va denies that brain cancer is a factor. But oddly he was in good health until age 77. At 70 he had a surprise dx of mass on his kidney, had a partial nephrectomy but it was benign BUT at 77 he gets hypothyroidsm, hypertension, prostate cancer and brain cancer. H e was in saigon on an airforce base in Da Nang for 2 years in 1965, ALL except the brain cancer are direct related to agent orange per the vA themselves, you just gott a wonder , apparently it lives dormant in your body for years, so its not unusual to dx'd with its impact30, 40, 50 years. later. I am grateful for their help, paying for the hospital bed, 11 hours of aide and w//c. He deserves that is for sure. after being drafted.

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God bless you both.

Please thank him for the sacrifice of being in Vietnam. Many went not by choice due to the draft. I admire your faith and perseverance. Blessings to you both🙏🏼🤗

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Profile picture for boilerbob @boilerbob

My wife had glioblastoma on the left side of her brain. TMZ and radiation contained the cancer in the original locations.
She had radiation treatment every day for 2 weeks and three cycles of TMZ treatment, then three maintenance treatments of TMZ.
After about 11 months, the cancer appeared on the right side of her brain, and neither the TMZ nor radiation treatments had any impact on the cancer's growth.
She fought a brave fight against the cancer for 17 months, but it is truly not treatable.

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So so very sad for you, sir.
You did the best you could for her - this disease is so u fair and so devastating.

I believe in my heart she knew she was loved at all time. God bless you.

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God bless you both.

Please thank him for the sacrifice of being in Vietnam. Many went not by choice due to the draft. I admire your faith and perseverance. Blessings to you both🙏🏼🤗

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yup he came from a long line of men in his family who served and was drafted with no thought to go to canada

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