Son estranged due to controlling spouse
My son & I were always very close. I have two children, he’s the older one. The one that made me a mother & opened up my world to loving unconditionally and so deeply that at times I was completely awe struck. We remained close until he met a particular woman, married her & became completely enmeshed with her family. I’m leaving a lot out here but bottom line, he’s completely controlled by her and her mother. He lives with her parents, it’s very dysfunctional. If you told me this is the person he’d choose, I would have said you’re crazy, it would never happen. It did happen & now they have a daughter, she’s 3.
I am not allowed over their house, my son has cut me out of his life and he’s also estranged from his sister. His life is his wife’s family & he’s turned into a person that gaslight’s, blames my daughter & I for everything under the sun and plays the victim all while jumping through hoops of fire for his wife and her family. I’ve tried ever which way to approach this. I sought therapy for healthy guidance and nothing changes. I miss the person I used to know as my son. Does anyone have any experience/thoughts about how to remain in a healthy frame of mind as I navigate through life without my son or granddaughter (and they just live 10 minutes down the road from me)
Thank you 🙏
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Very well said.
I feel your pain b/c I am going thru the same thing.
My son is as responsible for the alienation as my daughter in law seeing as he is alienating me, as well.
It is a generational thing, and it is abhorrent!
They are breaking my heart as I am sure you understand.
The hardest part is how much pain I am experiencing w/o having the opportunity to work thru it w/them.
It is a paralyzing feeling to not be able to see my new grandchild and to not be able to fix this.
I wish for a speedy resolution for you 💜
Never said she shouldn’t be first. But any wife who tells their husband they must chose between their parents and her doesn’t love him, I love my son and would never ask him to make such a decision. If she doesn’t like us and cannot give either my husband or I a reason then there is nothing more we can do. However if my son loved us he would at pick up the phone to say hello or happy birthday rather then ignore us and pretend we don’t exist. My husband and I have both said on numerous occasions how we wanted nothing more then to be part of his life, but he still,ignores us because she won’t let him speak to us.now if you still think that is healthy and we are wrong then you need to hope and pray that no one does this to you. My oldest son has also been cut out of his brother’s life.
Thanks for the hug!!!
@chirco3 The mother in law here is not taking any responsibility for her part in making the son choose. Until she does that she’ll remain estranged.
My sister’s now mother in law was a real problem when my sister and her now husband got engaged. The mother was truly awful and said terrible things about my sister. She didn’t want her son to marry my sister because she couldn’t control my sister.
My brother in law told his mum to pull her head in or she’d need to stay away and miss out on grandchildren. His mother behaved much better. No doubt my brother in law in private also helped my sister to relax and come off the defensive. Mother in law and my sister grew to have a mutually loving and respectful relationship - but the mom still at times needed to be reminded where the boundaries were!!
Mother in law here needs to have a good look at her own behaviour. See if she can make changes to build bridges. Or accept the estrangement and move on.
Well said.
Obviously, I don't know the families in this case, but my own mother saw my wife as a scheming, son-stealing peasant hussy.
That wasn't helpful.
I wouldn't tolerate anyone treating my wife like that. No responsible husband would.
@nathandavid We’re not flies on the wall and we’re not seeing exactly what’s going on. I can only go by the words used here about the daughter in law, and the horror expressed that the daughter in law thinks she comes first.
My sister now that she IS the mother in law after having had a terrible one to begin with herself is ultra careful not to overstep. The mother in law also became a much loved member of my sister’s wider family once she stopped attacking my sister.
I am in the same boat with all of you. I was denied attending my granddaughter's wedding because "I was not welcome." They may as well have stabbed me in the heart. When they came for my husband's funeral, they kept well away from me. I was told by my son that his wife considered me too judgemental and she was not going to stand for it anymore. I sent them a long email and acknowledged that I may have (unknowingly) have hurt people, and if so, I took the responsibility for it, owned it and apologized. I expressed a desire to keep open the relationship. But none of this worked. So I did the only thing I could. I consulted with my attorney, changed my trust and cut them out as they cut me out. For certain actions there are consequences. A few years have now gone by and there is nothing. I informed my new trustee that she had no obligation to inform them of my death when that happens.
Revenge is a dish best served cold, eh?
This might be an aside, and I don't intend to hijack the thread, but I wonder:
Is it possible to be happy for someone without needing to participate?
While my father was alive, he was proud to be a parent who'd raised a good son. He and I talked a lot, but he never interfered or offered unsolicited advice about my marriage. About his last words to me were, "Take care of that girl." He was proud of me, and I have always been proud to be his son. I thought that was wonderful.
If you have an adult child who's happy and successful, isn't that enough satisfaction? It's quite an accomplishment. If that's not enough, what would be?
I recognize that some people are from strong families, while others (like me) aren't close. So please help me understand.