How are the super long-haulers doing 3 to 4 years out?

Posted by lauragwi @lauragwi, May 30, 2024

I came down with COVID March 31 2020 and have had long-COVID ever since. Moderate fatigue, lung irritation and trouble breathing, some brain fog, and crashes of 2 to 3 weeks where I feel extremely fatigued and ill are my main issues. Plus other systemic things...heart rate not coming down after strenuous exercise, responding too strongly/not properly to vaccines (COVID or otherwise), etc. I would say I'm lucky in that I can still work full time 75% of the time, and I am still able to push myself to do activities I enjoy like hiking, walking, travel, so really I don't have it as bad as some people. But it still disrupts life quite a bit.

Each year I get a little better...the crashes don't last as long, some of the systemic things have gone away (like nearly passing out in hot temps), and I've gotten a tiny bit of energy back. The thing that helped me most was a stellate ganglion block, which has gotten rid of most my lung symptoms and I no longer need any inhalers (I still take Quercetin antihistamine supplement for lung irritation - can't quite go off that altogether). This January, I was starting to have some days where I felt normal. I could actually wake up feeling refreshed sometimes, I could do more physical activity without over-tiring, and I wasn't getting sick either with a virus or with a crash.

But now I feel like I've slid back a whole year or more. My fatigue is worse and more frequent. Over the past 2.5 months, I've had a total of 5 viruses or crashes making me sick and I feel like I am starting a crash today because I'm so tired I can barely get through the day. Haven't been sick this frequently for a couple years now. I'm in my 30s and feeling so frustrated that 4+ years of the prime of my life I've had to hold back on normal activities, miss so much work, and feel so listless. Also, I have thankfully only had COVID just the one time.

I am wondering how the other "long long-COVID" people who've had it 3 or 4+ years are doing physically and emotionally? Have you gotten any better? What is still hard? What has helped the most?

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even worse.... i am 70 and have had it since 11/2019 when there was supposedly no covid19. it was terrible for 4 - 5 days and nites at home. it was on and off for the next 3 years then the 4th year it set in about july and never quit. instead of the normal fatigue, brain fog, memory trouble, sleep problems, etc.... now the doctors and hospitals all over texas, new mexico and colorado just treat problems whenever they come along... no doctors or hospitals would listen to me because so much time had passed since i had acquired it and there was no vaccine or even the virus at the time. if you haven't already, i would go to a pcp that believes in psac and get everything checked out..... this covid is in the process of taking over my body. i was in the hospital for 7 days in 11/2019 and now i have had a whole year of nothing but doctors, hospitals, surgeries, blood test, mri, ct scans everything imaginable. until they can find a way to stop the invasion of our cells by the covid virus, or a way to kill the 'pools' of covid in us, all we can do is have our team of doctors, hospitals and surgeons watch after us to keep us alive. my list of diagnosis, prescriptions, surgeries, caregivers is too extensive to list.

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My husband&I both had Covid March 2020....it was called the "China Virus"...no official name yet. He has not had post covid syndrome at all, but I have over 2dozen +
issues. Was patient MayoClinic long covid clinic full week of tests& specialists. Their focus is on coping. The virus blocks messages from being communicated back&forth from your system to your brain. Worldwide research still unable to cure.

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I too am experiencing a set back. It started with a Covid shot and then 2 weeks of stressful travel. I'm dragging, can't think or complete sentences. I was doing ok! So discouraging when I was hoping to continue to get better, not worse

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@cpivyca

I too am experiencing a set back. It started with a Covid shot and then 2 weeks of stressful travel. I'm dragging, can't think or complete sentences. I was doing ok! So discouraging when I was hoping to continue to get better, not worse

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I am in my 5th year of long covid, sick 11/2020 before vaccines came out. I traveled a couple weeks ago and was really messed up from it. I was sick/crashed/brain dead for 3 of the 7 days, then for a week after returning home.
What I've have come to believe is travel is VERY strenuous brain work. I struggle packing, have to get to the airport, look for the bag check, figure out how to print the bag tag, find where to check and drop off the bag, remember what I was told about which TSA place to go through, find the line pre-checked line, think about what do I need to put through their scanner, retrieve my things & check that I have everything, find out which gate and find my way there, find the bathroom, find the bottle refill station, do I want snacks or not, pay attention to the call for boarding & the right group, scan my ticket, find my seat & overhead bin, then all that in reverse upon landing.
It is easier landing in an airport I am familiar with, but nasty in a new one, finding which carousel for baggage retrieval then transportation.
I get overwhelmed, loose half the time I am gone with recovery alone, and then pay for it for a week after I get home.
MUCH more exhausting than working spreadsheets, finances or legal affairs at home!
This helps: My packing list is written and saved on my laptop so all I need to do is print it out. Reminders for reservations I need to make ahead of time is on the list (book flight, rental car, taxi to & from my local airport, boarding for my dog, lodging reservation & confirmations, hold the mail, let neighbors know I will be gone, send flight info to family members). Also last minute things when I am leaving (turning the water supply off, set the house alarm, bring my keys to unlock the house when I return, turn down the thermostat or up the AC) and take out the garbage.
Memory and balance problems problems begin at just preparing to go-I fell down the stairs the morning I was leaving).
good luck next time!!
RMS

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@sbriggs

even worse.... i am 70 and have had it since 11/2019 when there was supposedly no covid19. it was terrible for 4 - 5 days and nites at home. it was on and off for the next 3 years then the 4th year it set in about july and never quit. instead of the normal fatigue, brain fog, memory trouble, sleep problems, etc.... now the doctors and hospitals all over texas, new mexico and colorado just treat problems whenever they come along... no doctors or hospitals would listen to me because so much time had passed since i had acquired it and there was no vaccine or even the virus at the time. if you haven't already, i would go to a pcp that believes in psac and get everything checked out..... this covid is in the process of taking over my body. i was in the hospital for 7 days in 11/2019 and now i have had a whole year of nothing but doctors, hospitals, surgeries, blood test, mri, ct scans everything imaginable. until they can find a way to stop the invasion of our cells by the covid virus, or a way to kill the 'pools' of covid in us, all we can do is have our team of doctors, hospitals and surgeons watch after us to keep us alive. my list of diagnosis, prescriptions, surgeries, caregivers is too extensive to list.

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I heard that there was a Covid institute near Irving, Texas the doctor is Dr. Robert Groysman. I’ve heard a lot of great stuff but not sure if it’s true. Here is the website. https://covidinstitute.org/
Maybe you’ve already been to him. Have you had any experience with him?

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@naturalblondeone

I heard that there was a Covid institute near Irving, Texas the doctor is Dr. Robert Groysman. I’ve heard a lot of great stuff but not sure if it’s true. Here is the website. https://covidinstitute.org/
Maybe you’ve already been to him. Have you had any experience with him?

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Hi, I have never heard of him but I had covid two times so in 2019 and 2020. I've had the vaccine for it before I got it the second time. I still suffer from that little irritating cough in my throat and my lungs are at a lesser capacity since then. I would also appreciate some information about how to proceed with the breathing issues.

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@covidstinks2023

Hey There! I am going into my 3rd year with Long Covid. I had COVID again last October. My fatigue has worsened since having it again, I still have brain fog (but not as severe). I have more joint pain, fibromyalgia has worsened and more upper respiratory infections and asthma.

The first round of COVID, my heart rate stayed at 136 doing nothing. It took 3 months to come back down and the shortness of breath took about 3 months as well. I had double pneumonia the first time with COVID.

I went to an Integrative Medicine Doctor who was wonderful, but, I could not tolerate the infusions or the Glutathione to treat Long COVID. I am on a lot of vitamins for long COVID.

To be honest, I feel like I have aged a lot since the last round of COVID, BUT, I am grateful to God for the things I can do. I have had to learn (I'm a type A) I cannot put too much on my plate or I crash.

Praying for you and I am glad you are doing better and pray you continue to do better.

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I'm 83 years old and caught Covid 19 in October 2020. I had what's referred to as a 'mild case' meaning I didn't wind up in the hospital. I had my first case of PEM (post exertional malaise) 6 weeks after my original infection. I take *A LOT* of supplements; something to support every system in my body. I was extremely active in my previous life and now I'm happy to be able to manage a short shower; do some light housekeeping (now and then); feed my kitty; manage my meals and get together with a friend occasionally over lunch. I could go on and on...but, you get the picture.
For sure, I am better. In addition to my nutritional/supplemental needs, I have been forced to change my life-style (no more multi-tasking, etc.) and I practice yoga nidra 1 or more times per day which definately helps my nervous system and gives me back some energy. I continue to believe I can get back to feeling normal. Time will tell.
I get a lot of help from some free YouTube Channels and highly recommend: Gez Medinger (he's one of us), Healing Gems (let's try to get her to 1000 'likes' so the ads will be turned off) (Gemma is also one of us), then, there's Raelan Agle who is recovering from CFS and lastly check out Bateman Horne Center.
My best to all,
Pam

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@harasr1214

Hi, I have never heard of him but I had covid two times so in 2019 and 2020. I've had the vaccine for it before I got it the second time. I still suffer from that little irritating cough in my throat and my lungs are at a lesser capacity since then. I would also appreciate some information about how to proceed with the breathing issues.

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Sorry to hear about your breathing issues. If you are interested in something over the counter, I swear by Nature's Way Umcka Cough Syrup (there are 2 formulas) also, I love a product by Natural Factors titled "Lung, Bronchial & Sinus Health". I get these easily from Iherb.com.
And, for more help for all kinds of symptoms, visit the free YouTube channels of Gez Medinger (he's 5 years out and one of us) and there is the Bateman Horne Center.
My best to you.

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@leahodell

October 2021 is when it started for me. I completely understand the emotional toll this condition takes. I’m not quite as young as you(38), but had just completed 100mile trail race a few months prior to getting COVID. I aspired to do so much more athletically, but I still can’t tolerate exercise. Getting thru Work and taking care of the kids are incredibly hard / impossible on some days.

I’ve definitely experienced moments where I feel like I’m on the other side, only to be disappointed by a flare up or new symptom.

Lately I have been teetering on the edge of giving up on finding answers and just letting this virus have my body. Giving up is not in my nature, but It’s all so exhausting and feels frivolous.

I wish you luck in finding answers and getting back to life.

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I am so saddened by your story and others. I have had long Covid symptoms primarily fatigue and insomnia for almost a year. After having every test imaginable in nuclear medicine and endless blood tests, I was officially diagnosed with Long Covid: fatigue, insomnia, and PEM. I am approaching tx via different avenues. My social worker just recommended a book, “Mind Your Body” by Nicole Sachs. I am sharing this because I haven’t seen a reference to the program in this book. I just ordered Vision as a technological approach to assisting with monitoring physical exertion. After my last crash, I need ways to figure out more movement. I try to stay current with the latest research…..My best to you and others.

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I’ve had it since 2020 as well and I’m not great. I developed asthma, allergies, ME/CFS, sleep issues, gut issues, and a vocal cord disorder. I’m still crashing and suffering.

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