Like to know more. Just told I have Triple Negative MPN.

Posted by lynnebgraham @lynnebgraham, Feb 22 6:22pm

Can anyone tell me what this actually means? I have not seen anyone with this as yet. I have had ET for over 17 years now. I was just informed that it is tripple negative after the Bone Marrow test. Is there any documentation that I can read relating to this? Just had results of recent blood test. Platelets not going down, now on Hydrae 1 tablet a day with a second tablet every odd day, hopefully, resulting in platelets going down. Next test 4 weeks.
Were 1155 2/01, 789 15/01, 793 29/01, 826 17/02.

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@lynnebgraham

Hi, there is some information that @janemc put on here. Helpful

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Hi Lynne,
I am also triple negative ET. You’re the first person that I’ve “met” on this forum who is TN ET. It is rare and thus not well-researched or understood. I’m so delighted to hear from you and about you, and to find you!😀♥️ I’ve had the diagnosis since my BMB in December, 2023.

I’m just seeing this thread. I will read your messages and see what others have said and I’ll add information that I’ve found. I actually attended a webinar about ET today, sponsored by the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society of Canada (I’m Canadian). The only thing that the expert said about TN was that it is still overactivity of the JAK2 pathway, but the cause has not yet been identified.
Thinking of you! I’ll jump back on this thread with links to any that might be helpful.
Take care!❤️

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Hi @reneemichelle
So glad to meet you too. I am an Australian and live in Tasmania. How special are we. Just wish for more information. Sharing info is a good thing, especially when not much is known about what we have. Chin up, I have had it for roughly 17 years, just didn't know the exact name was. You have to ask the questions of your specialist, I have only recently found out I am ET TN. Cheers Lynne 🙃 ❤️

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@janemc

You must have so many questions! You might want to use the search bar at the top of this page to look for mentions of "triple negative ET" in the forum.

Below is what Google AI has to say:

Triple-negative essential thrombocythemia (ET) is a subtype of ET characterized by the absence of three common driver mutations:
JAK2 (Janus kinase 2) V617F, CALR (calreticulin) mutation, and MPL (MPL501L) mutation.
Prevalence:
Triple-negative ET is relatively rare, accounting for approximately 10-20% of ET cases.
Pathogenesis:
The exact cause of triple-negative ET is unknown. However, it is believed to be a clonal hematopoietic disorder, similar to other types of ET, but without the identifiable driver mutations.
Clinical Features:
Triple-negative ET patients typically present with:
Elevated platelet count, Often asymptomatic, and May have a lower risk of thrombosis compared to other ET subtypes.
Diagnosis:
The diagnosis of triple-negative ET is based on the following criteria:
Sustained platelet count above 450 x 10^9/L
Absence of JAK2, CALR, and MPL mutations
Exclusion of other hematological disorders
Prognosis:
Triple-negative ET is generally considered an indolent disease with a favorable prognosis. However, some patients may develop complications such as thrombosis or bleeding.
Treatment:
Treatment for triple-negative ET is typically individualized based on the patient's risk factors. Options may include:
Observation with regular monitoring
Low-dose aspirin to prevent thrombosis
Cytoreductive therapy (e.g., hydroxyurea) if there is an increased risk of thrombosis

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I have diagnosis of ET triple negative. So I am missing the common genetic drivers. However, my bone marrow biopsy shows I have a mutation on ASXL1 G646fs. I have read this mutation has been correlated to poor outcomes, ie, progression to MF or AML. Are you aware of any research on this mutation and clinical outcomes or treatments? Thanks!

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@eloise999

I have diagnosis of ET triple negative. So I am missing the common genetic drivers. However, my bone marrow biopsy shows I have a mutation on ASXL1 G646fs. I have read this mutation has been correlated to poor outcomes, ie, progression to MF or AML. Are you aware of any research on this mutation and clinical outcomes or treatments? Thanks!

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eloise999, learning that something's "off" is bad enough. Having almost no information about that something makes it a thousand times worse.

Unfortunately this is the reality for ETrs like you and me.

And odds are, your oncologist is probably not an ET triple negative expert.

So all we can do is try to find online information. This can be helpful BUT it's a very imperfect method. One source will contradict another. Some articles are so technical that they're hard to interpret. And there is absolutely nothing that speaks directly to your personal situation.

I hope other triple negative ETrs will chime in, because learning from others' real life experience is so valuable.

We all fear progression. That was my worst fear when I was diagnosed.

I'm much less worried about that now, because from what I've read, that's not a likely outcome for most ETrs.

You are in a scary place, eloise999, but you are not alone, and you will gain strength from others' support and experience. To better days ahead.

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@janemc

eloise999, learning that something's "off" is bad enough. Having almost no information about that something makes it a thousand times worse.

Unfortunately this is the reality for ETrs like you and me.

And odds are, your oncologist is probably not an ET triple negative expert.

So all we can do is try to find online information. This can be helpful BUT it's a very imperfect method. One source will contradict another. Some articles are so technical that they're hard to interpret. And there is absolutely nothing that speaks directly to your personal situation.

I hope other triple negative ETrs will chime in, because learning from others' real life experience is so valuable.

We all fear progression. That was my worst fear when I was diagnosed.

I'm much less worried about that now, because from what I've read, that's not a likely outcome for most ETrs.

You are in a scary place, eloise999, but you are not alone, and you will gain strength from others' support and experience. To better days ahead.

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Thank you very much for your reassuring words. I really appreciate it.

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Hi Lynne,

I see @janemc's wise words about the lack of information. There are a couple of recent articles that provide the latest information about triple negative ET and an annual update on ET in general. They are rather technical, but there are some key messages in them. You can find them with a simple online search:

1. Brief Report "Triple-Negativity Identifies a Subgroup of Patients with Better Overall Survival in Essential Thrombocythemia", Marco Santoro and others "Hematology Reports" 2022, 14, 265-269
from its abstract:
"...clinical features and prognosis (of triple negative ET) have not been described with precision yet...Data from 266 consecutive essential thrombocythemia patients were analysed. Triple-negative patients had a significantly lower symptom load and lower frequency of splenomegaly at diagnosis. The results show that the rate of thrombosis was equal in the two subgroups [triple negative is one subgroup, other subgroup is folks with one of the 3 driver-gene mutations]. Overall survival was slightly better in the triple-negative group of patients. "

2. "Triple-Negative Essential Thrombocythemia: Clinical-Pathological and Molecular Features. A Single-Center Cohort Study", by Daniele Cattaneo and others, Frontiers in Oncology, 2021 Mar 12; 11:637116.
Very technical - looks at the bone marrow morphology and the clinical-laboratory parameters of triple-negative ET patients and the molecular profile to idetnify potential clonal biomarkers.

3. "Essential Thrombocythemia: 2024 update on diagnosis, risk stratification, and management", by Ayalew Tefferi and others, American Journal of Hematology, 2024, volume 99, Issue 4, p.697-718.
This annual update article gives an overview for all ET (JAK2, CALR and MPN as well as TN). The article cites "Mayo-Florence" studies of 2000 patients. In the concluding remarks, the authors state that those studies "were concordant in their identification of triple-negative driver mutational status as a particularly favorable risk group, in terms of both thrombosis and disease transformation [to AML or MF]...Accordingly, it is reasonable to recommend a highly conservative treatment approach in triple-negative ET that is devoid of cytoreductive drugs...The outstanding prognosis in triple-negative ET makes it difficult to subject such patients to clinical trials with drugs devoid of demonstrable disease-modifying activity."

Anyways, of course since "very few papers are presently avalable on triple-negative ET, which is basically described as an indolent [slowly progressing] disease" (stated in the abstract of the second article), one has to be cautious. It reflects the information currently available, and the statements are relatively favourable re triple-negative ET. I appreciate getting as much information as possible, to ask my O/H the questions that are important to me.

It's good to keep reading, asking questions and sharing so that we can be our own best advocates!

Take care!!👍😀❤️

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Thank you for the information, it certainly helps. One day at a time. Cheers Lynne :-]

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@reneemichelle

Hi Lynne,

I see @janemc's wise words about the lack of information. There are a couple of recent articles that provide the latest information about triple negative ET and an annual update on ET in general. They are rather technical, but there are some key messages in them. You can find them with a simple online search:

1. Brief Report "Triple-Negativity Identifies a Subgroup of Patients with Better Overall Survival in Essential Thrombocythemia", Marco Santoro and others "Hematology Reports" 2022, 14, 265-269
from its abstract:
"...clinical features and prognosis (of triple negative ET) have not been described with precision yet...Data from 266 consecutive essential thrombocythemia patients were analysed. Triple-negative patients had a significantly lower symptom load and lower frequency of splenomegaly at diagnosis. The results show that the rate of thrombosis was equal in the two subgroups [triple negative is one subgroup, other subgroup is folks with one of the 3 driver-gene mutations]. Overall survival was slightly better in the triple-negative group of patients. "

2. "Triple-Negative Essential Thrombocythemia: Clinical-Pathological and Molecular Features. A Single-Center Cohort Study", by Daniele Cattaneo and others, Frontiers in Oncology, 2021 Mar 12; 11:637116.
Very technical - looks at the bone marrow morphology and the clinical-laboratory parameters of triple-negative ET patients and the molecular profile to idetnify potential clonal biomarkers.

3. "Essential Thrombocythemia: 2024 update on diagnosis, risk stratification, and management", by Ayalew Tefferi and others, American Journal of Hematology, 2024, volume 99, Issue 4, p.697-718.
This annual update article gives an overview for all ET (JAK2, CALR and MPN as well as TN). The article cites "Mayo-Florence" studies of 2000 patients. In the concluding remarks, the authors state that those studies "were concordant in their identification of triple-negative driver mutational status as a particularly favorable risk group, in terms of both thrombosis and disease transformation [to AML or MF]...Accordingly, it is reasonable to recommend a highly conservative treatment approach in triple-negative ET that is devoid of cytoreductive drugs...The outstanding prognosis in triple-negative ET makes it difficult to subject such patients to clinical trials with drugs devoid of demonstrable disease-modifying activity."

Anyways, of course since "very few papers are presently avalable on triple-negative ET, which is basically described as an indolent [slowly progressing] disease" (stated in the abstract of the second article), one has to be cautious. It reflects the information currently available, and the statements are relatively favourable re triple-negative ET. I appreciate getting as much information as possible, to ask my O/H the questions that are important to me.

It's good to keep reading, asking questions and sharing so that we can be our own best advocates!

Take care!!👍😀❤️

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reneemichelle, thank you so much for these citations.

For the third item, this link will take you to the full article:
https://doi.org/10.1002/ajh.27216
An overview of research from all over the world, this provides the latest findings on multiple aspects of ET. Relevant to all of us, not just those who are triple-negative.

The article touches on questions we discuss here all the time. Will ET shorten my life? What are my risk factors for clots, or for progression to leukemia? For whom is low-dose aspirin or HU helpful? What should I do if I need to prepare for surgery?

I offer the following quote for your consideration:

There are, to date, no controlled studies that implicate either HU or busulfan as being leukemogenic in either ET or PV. Similarly, the two largest non-controlled studies in ET and PV do not support the concern that leukemia might arise from the use of HU and there is additional evidence to that effect from long-term studies of patients receiving HU for sickle cell disease.

Thanks again, reneemichelle.

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