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Heart Palpitations

Heart Rhythm Conditions | Last Active: Jan 15, 2018 | Replies (84)

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@martishka

Hi Mikeyp,
You say that the doctors cannot find anything wrong even though you have had several tests. I have a question about the two
24 hour Holter monitors that you had. I am assuming that when you were wearing the monitors you did not experience an “episode”
and that your heart was in normal sinus rhythm. I am wondering why you don’t try a two week monitor or month long monitor. I have had both
since my electrophysiologist could not “see” the problem I was describing since I didn’t experience it in the 24 hour period that I was
wearing the Holter Monitor. I had SVT all my life and in my 50’s I developed AF. I am now free of any rate or rhythm problems after a successful PVA (pulmonary vein ablation). I also had a standing order for an EKG so I could walk into a lab or hospital and have an EKG when I was experiencing symptoms. It sounds like your EKG showed no rhythm or rate disturbances. If you get these episodes once or twice a day, I am assuming that when you wore the monitor you could hit the “episode button” and then record your symptoms. Did this happen the two times you wore the monitor? If you were symptom free during those two times, it would seem to make sense to ask for a monitor that you can wear for a week or two to ensure that you can document the problem. What do you think?
Martishka

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Hi Martishka,

Yes I had the palps both times I was wearing the 24 hour monitors, the palps showed up on the readout and they said ” Your heart is within the normal limits ” I said what about all these palps, they said ” your heart never went out of rhythm when you were having them so all is normal ” and so this is why I’m so stumped by this, not one Dr. can pinpoint why I get these and get these so severely. There are no meds to give me because I can’t be diagnosed so I’ll take any suggestions that you guys can give me to try.

Thanks

I guess my next questions would be, “What is within normal limits” and “What is your heart rate when you have a palpitation? Is it a regular or irregular rhythm?” When I had SVT (supraventricular tachycardia) I had an even rate of up to 220 or 230 BPM. I wasn’t treated for it for many years- until my mid 20’s. I went on various meds because the symptoms were interfering with my ability to carry on a normal life. I guess its important to define the palpitations in terms of rate and rhythm. The ‘onset’ of a tachycardia can be very disturbing- I understand your anxiety and also found your description very familiar.

You asked about the Vagus nerve. I was told about 3 techniques that you could use to stop a tachycardia .
1. fill a sink with cold water and ice cubes and put your face into it, a few times
2. Bear down, clinch your stomach muscles, as if going to the bathroom
3. Hold your nose, close your mouth and attempt to breath out with some force (Valsalva maneuver )

I hope that helps and that you find an answer.
Best,
Martishka

From what I understand everything about my heart is normal, every single test was normal but as you know your heart has electrical parts and plumbing parts to it, all of my plumbing is fantastic, a palpitation is an electrical issue and the Holters showed no abnormal rhythms but how can multiple palps showing up on a readout be ” normal ” ? I totally stumped by this. It looks like my only salvation is to find the happy medium with the Magnesium Citrate to where I don’t have ” severe ” palps while also not using the bathroom 15 times a day. Is there any other supplements that you know of that I can try ?

Sorry, I didn’t answer your question, my palps happen in 2 seconds and my heart is back to normal so there’s no increase or decrease in heart rate. Every time they take my blood pressure and heart rate it’s always normal. BUT what happens in that 2 seconds of the palpitation is like someone punching you in the chest, that’s my problem, and no one knows what this is or how to treat it.

Even better — an internal cardiac monitor implant. Reveal LINQ.

Have you tried any of the other forms of magnesium that have less gastrointestinal side effect such as magnesium glycinate?

No I haven’t tried that, I will though, thanks

Hi, I was told by a health shop proprietor here in Oz that you should always ask for the Magnesium without the oxide ingredient to lessen the likelihood of stomach upsets. Good luck – I haven’t tried it myself as I decided not to take any Magnesium. I am on Rifad, Ethambutol and Clarithromycin for Mac and Sarcoidosis. Jo

Hi Jo,

My Dr.’s can’t put me on any meds because they can’t diagnose why I get these severe palps so I’m basically ” stuck ” using Magnesium, it seems to be the only thing that works, someone said to try the Magnesium Glycinate so I’m going to try that. Also, I have an appointment with my Urologist because due to the kidney stones that I have ( and I have a lot of them ) and my BUN levels higher than normal because of the stones and I think there’s a correlation with my heart not getting the right potassium & magnesium amounts hence giving me these palps.

Are you in an area with fluoride in the water. It is not only in the water, but in just about every liquid you purchase. It is even in some depression tablets. Check it out

I’m not sure, but I don’t drink tap water.

Hi Mikey again – I replied below and am now reading all the posts. I feel for you and know you will get to the bottom of this. I’ve had brutal lung, cardiac, and kidney damage so am familiar with all these electrolyte issues. They are all so connected! Your gut feeling is the one to follow. Your electrolytes can be used and imbalanced so quickly, then everything is affected! Your kidney issues would absolutely influence your heart in some way!

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