Lifting weights while on ADT: hitting a wall?

Posted by bluegill @bluegill, Jan 28 5:30pm

I'm 5 weeks into it (Eligard). This is my second rodeo (the first time I was on it for 3 years).

I've been doing intense weight lifting 3 days a week for several months now, and I thought maybe this would help me keep my energy up and keep the side efffects away. But today I've really noticed they're back.

Crap.

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For approximately 50 years I have found that aerobic exercise has improved my spirit and reduced stress. While the need for strength training is well established in the community, for myself a healthy aerobic exertion is also needed to improve my energy levels. I use a Fitbit to monitor my training levels and to project the current days suggested exertion level. For me getting my heart rate to a vigorous for at least 15 minutes (usually 30 minutes) is the level where I sense the benefits. Sometimes that exertion level can beyond reach, but once I’m at the gym half the battle is already won. Further, I find that the aerobic exercise provides an easier weight workout as the muscles are warmed up and perhaps energized. If I were starting I may go with just 5-10 minutes of strenuous aerobic exercise then right on to the strength training. Of course doctors clearance for any exercise may be required.

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Absolutely, do whatever it takes. So far I haven't decreased but I reserve the right to.

In my past life I would have cut myself some slack but, while I temporarily identify as a big ADT girl, I may choose to cry about it, whine to my friends, or both 🙂

For a lot of ADT side effects, I enjoy the irony that these might just be natural aging effects by the time I finish ADT (noon on May 29th 2026 as far as I'm concerned!)

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@johnernest

I started ADT last September, I have hot flashes, mood swings, and sudden fatigue. But, I continue to lift weights (very intensely) 4 days a week, this is the only thing that helps me feel normal. I can say that the side effects have decreased and are of short duration, but they are still there. I also walk 5 miles every day, even if I do not feel like it, I do it anyway and feel better afterwards. As far as the weight lifting, I have actually increased most of my lifts since starting ADT. I think it is more mental than testosterone! Hang in there

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I think you nailed it, "I also walk 5 miles every day, even if I do not feel like it, I do it anyway and feel better afterwards."
I'm a month in on Lupron and do 4 spinning classes a week, mountain biking as weather allows and weight lifting. I always feel better once I get into it. Pushing away from the easy chair is critical. But man, I wake up tired.

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North, you need to market your snow discovery. You could charge people to come shovel your driveway. Call it "Cold Therapy" and make some outrageous health claims.

You could include different components: Snowrobics, for example. Or, Snowsistance for those who need weight training. For the mellower crowd, maybe Snowga or Snow Chi.

$$$

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@heavyphil

Hey rt, I DID decrease the weights - but just a bit on the presses by 10 pounds; made a world of difference!
I was getting discouraged so I said to myself “Hey man, you’re on ADT, cut yourself some slack!”
So just dropping the barbell from 60 to 50 pounds made it so much easier that it gave me the incentive to do more reps and an extra set.
Once the effects of ADT wear off I’ll go back to the heavier weight….or maybe not🫣…

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When I was recovering from my spinal and building up new nerve pathways and muscle to be able to walk again (extra challenging on ADT 😕), my physiotherapist convinced me to rethink my use of weights. She asked me if I wanted to be strong or just bulky, and then nudged towards more reps with lighter weights.

I don't always follow that advice, but I usually feel better after I do.

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@bluegill

North, you need to market your snow discovery. You could charge people to come shovel your driveway. Call it "Cold Therapy" and make some outrageous health claims.

You could include different components: Snowrobics, for example. Or, Snowsistance for those who need weight training. For the mellower crowd, maybe Snowga or Snow Chi.

$$$

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I'd have to convince people to travel up from the southern U.S. for "the show-shovelling workout programme"; I somehow don't think it would work on my neighbours here in Ontario. 🙂

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I have friends from the tropics who have never seen snow, and they'd just LOVE to see it! It's SO beautiful on TV! You could really do a snow job on them.

Yesterday I hit my wall, but I went to the gym anyway, thanks in part to people here who have encouraged me, and I powered my way through it. It was hard. I had to be careful not to stand up too fast from the weight machines, because I was a bit dizzy.

The good part is that if I overdo it the gym is one block from ER.

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Blue; I was on Orgovyx and Zytiga and had faintness when I stood up between exercises. I was on 1000mg of the Zytiga and we cut the dose in 1/2 to 500mg, which significantly improved this side effect. I didn’t change the daily dose of Orgovyx. My PSA and testosterone levels did not change with the reduced dosage.

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. I'm 69. I had a prostectomy in 3/20 . My Psa hit .25 which triggers follow up at MSK . I hs a PSMA -PET and it dis not detect any cancer spread. I've been taking Orgovyx for 2 weeks and I just started to notice fatigue and also that my resistance training is compromised. I did a Cross-Fit filthy 50 yesterday and really struggled with it .
But I'm determined to stick with it and be extra diligent with my Whole Food Plant Based Diet.

I',m encouraged by studies that show that resistance training can counteract the side effects of ADT.
I'm trying to keep a positive attitude. Between the hormone therapy and radiation ( 5 weeks starting in May) I'm pretty confident I will be done with the cancer.

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Hang in there.

I'm 4 months into Eligard and still holding steady and even increasing a bit the amount of weights I lift 3x per week.

When I travel, I used to look for cheap motels that had a free breakfast. Now, a fitness center is a must.

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