How to Slowly and Safely Taper Off Prednisone but ... no set rules.

Posted by DadCue @dadcue, Sep 28, 2024

The following link addresses prednisone withdrawal symptoms and adrenal insufficiency. There is a nice video that explains how prednisone replaces our natural cortisol -- a hormone that our adrenals produce.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/does-prednisone-tapering-minimize-withdrawal-190242
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The following is a more in depth discussion about the role of cortisol in the body. Credit goes to Australia for the following information.
https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/the-role-of-cortisol-in-the-body#:~:text=Key%20facts,much%20or%20too%20little%20cortisol.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) Support Group.

@dadcue

Here is another good video.

I wonder if it would be possible to compile a bunch of good videos under various topics.
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This is a better video than the first one. They first one, despite recognising there was no gold standard towards the end, still promoted rapid tapering schedules. It gave the impression that the dose of steroids was curing the PMR in a relatively short period of time, when PMR runs it's own course and the steroids just control the superficial symptoms at best.

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@gmdb

This is a better video than the first one. They first one, despite recognising there was no gold standard towards the end, still promoted rapid tapering schedules. It gave the impression that the dose of steroids was curing the PMR in a relatively short period of time, when PMR runs it's own course and the steroids just control the superficial symptoms at best.

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Both videos come from a rheumatologist's perspective and are based on the medical "guidelines" for treating PMR rather than rules. I guess it is just a matter of personal preference. Successfully tapering off prednisone is difficult no matter how a person tapers their dose. My perspective is from 12 years of taking prednisone for PMR before I was able to taper off prednisone ... not exactly a fast tapering schedule.

I love how people name different taper schedules. The name I called my tapering method was "It Depends How I Feel Method of Tapering." It was very slow but not really a method that determined in advance what my daily dose would be. It was more weekly or monthly based. My goal was to stay on one dose for a period of time. My rheumatologist emphasized a "stable dose" rather than tapering. I needed more encouragement to speed up my taper rather than slow things down.

I remember when I first heard about the "Dead Slow" method. It seemed to suggest to me that I would be dead by the time I was able to taper off prednisone. I thought it should be renamed. I tried it anyway without success. I always say to do whatever works so I'm not partial to any tapering method.

I finally got off Prednisone after Actemra was started. It still took me more than a year to taper from 10 mg to zero. Actemra made a mockery of slowly tapering off Prednisone. I was tapering by 1 mg per month at first but then I went to 1 mg per week from 7 mg to 3 mg. I had to stay on 3 mg because my cortisol level was too low to go any lower. When I was finally able to taper off prednisone an endocrinologist said I didn't need to taper from 3 mg to zero as long as my cortisol level was good AND if PMR was under control. I could check both boxes so basically all I did was stop the prednisone. I stayed on 3 mg of Prednisone for more than 6 months without any taper until my adrenals started to function better.

I realize these biologics are expensive and might not work for everyone. I'm just grateful that Actemra works for me and it doesn't suppress my adrenal function. My rheumatologist says if Actemra stops working or if it causes too many side effects ... I can stop Actemra cold turkey.

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@plaisc

I started with 15 mg daily in 2020. Tried to go down a couple of times. This time when I went to 2 mg I got severe jaw pain and headache. I even have visible vessels on my temple. I am afraid of gca and have to find out what I should do now

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Hi @plaisc, So sorry to hear this.
You need to contact your doctor immediately or go to the ER especially if you experience any visual disturbance as @art43 advised. You risk possible blindness.
If you do have GCA, your dosage of Prednisone will increase dramatically, and your doctor will probably prescribe it before any biopsy is done to confirm it.
I had PMR for a year, then GCA, off Prdenisone a year and now down to 1 mg of Prednisone after a relapse of GCA.

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@dadcue

Both videos come from a rheumatologist's perspective and are based on the medical "guidelines" for treating PMR rather than rules. I guess it is just a matter of personal preference. Successfully tapering off prednisone is difficult no matter how a person tapers their dose. My perspective is from 12 years of taking prednisone for PMR before I was able to taper off prednisone ... not exactly a fast tapering schedule.

I love how people name different taper schedules. The name I called my tapering method was "It Depends How I Feel Method of Tapering." It was very slow but not really a method that determined in advance what my daily dose would be. It was more weekly or monthly based. My goal was to stay on one dose for a period of time. My rheumatologist emphasized a "stable dose" rather than tapering. I needed more encouragement to speed up my taper rather than slow things down.

I remember when I first heard about the "Dead Slow" method. It seemed to suggest to me that I would be dead by the time I was able to taper off prednisone. I thought it should be renamed. I tried it anyway without success. I always say to do whatever works so I'm not partial to any tapering method.

I finally got off Prednisone after Actemra was started. It still took me more than a year to taper from 10 mg to zero. Actemra made a mockery of slowly tapering off Prednisone. I was tapering by 1 mg per month at first but then I went to 1 mg per week from 7 mg to 3 mg. I had to stay on 3 mg because my cortisol level was too low to go any lower. When I was finally able to taper off prednisone an endocrinologist said I didn't need to taper from 3 mg to zero as long as my cortisol level was good AND if PMR was under control. I could check both boxes so basically all I did was stop the prednisone. I stayed on 3 mg of Prednisone for more than 6 months without any taper until my adrenals started to function better.

I realize these biologics are expensive and might not work for everyone. I'm just grateful that Actemra works for me and it doesn't suppress my adrenal function. My rheumatologist says if Actemra stops working or if it causes too many side effects ... I can stop Actemra cold turkey.

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Thank you - that's very useful information. I would like to try Actemra and it is good to hear some success stories for it. But in Australia it's only avaiolabel for GCA or if you can establish the potential for GCA currently. Certainly at the beginning of my PMR I had symptoms that were rapidly becoming indicative of GCA but a higher dose of prednisolone eliminated that over a 6 week period. But after 18 months I am still at 15 mgs. I was at 10 mg and that was looking okay until the the CRP inflammatory markers shot up to 28.

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@gmdb

Thank you - that's very useful information. I would like to try Actemra and it is good to hear some success stories for it. But in Australia it's only avaiolabel for GCA or if you can establish the potential for GCA currently. Certainly at the beginning of my PMR I had symptoms that were rapidly becoming indicative of GCA but a higher dose of prednisolone eliminated that over a 6 week period. But after 18 months I am still at 15 mgs. I was at 10 mg and that was looking okay until the the CRP inflammatory markers shot up to 28.

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There was an "administrative process" for me to get approved for Actemra. My doctor did the paperwork and submitted medical justification. An inability to taper off prednisone was one criteria. A failure of all other treatment options was another.

My rheumatologist first made me commit to trying Actemra IF he could get it approved. I was told that Prednisone for the rest of my life wouldn't be a good outcome. My quality of life was rather poor at that stage. I didn't think the rest of my life would be very long.

I started Actemra 6 years ago and my quality of life has improved tremendously since being off Prednisone for the last 5 years. I will be doing a TransPacific cruise to Austrailia the middle of October through mid November. I will do my monthly Actemra infusion before leaving home and I'm good for 5 to 6 weeks until my next Actemra infusion. I was confined to a chair at home when I was on Prednisone.

When I travel, my doctor writes for a supply of Prednisone that I take with me "just in case."

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