How to Slowly and Safely Taper Off Prednisone but ... no set rules.

Posted by DadCue @dadcue, Sep 28, 2024

The following link addresses prednisone withdrawal symptoms and adrenal insufficiency. There is a nice video that explains how prednisone replaces our natural cortisol -- a hormone that our adrenals produce.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/does-prednisone-tapering-minimize-withdrawal-190242
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The following is a more in depth discussion about the role of cortisol in the body. Credit goes to Australia for the following information.
https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/the-role-of-cortisol-in-the-body#:~:text=Key%20facts,much%20or%20too%20little%20cortisol.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) Support Group.

@christineb23

I started with pain in october 2024 which got really bad by january 2025. The rheumatologist thinks it is PMR, but is not 100% sure. Late January I started with prednisone 15mg daily for 1 week, 10mg daily for 1 week, 5mg daily for one week. Things were feeling great until I dropped to 2.5mg daily. Within a few days, the pain and stiffness returned. Since I was going on vacation, the doctor suggested I take 5mg daily until I returned.
She thought maybe 2.5mg was too much of a drop. She suggested 4mg daily for 1 month. I decided to try 4.5mg for the first week. I am at 9 days at that dose and the pain and stiffness is creeping back in, worse every day.
Can you tell me if you were able to drop in dose and NOT have pain return, or is this not realistic? The doctor said that I may need to start methotrexate. I need to do some research. I feel very hesitant about that.

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Welcome @christineb23, It sounds like you may be tapering too fast. Each of us are different. You might find this discussion started by @dadcue helpful, it has some good references that provide and explanation:
-- How to Slowly and Safely Taper Off Prednisone but ... no set rules.:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/how-to-slowly-and-safely-taper-off-prednisone-but-no-set-rules/
My PMR experience with 2 occurrences 6 years apart starting at 20 mg prednisone for each - the first time took 3 and half years to taper off with the last six months going back and forth between 1 and 1/2 mg prednisone until I could stop taking it with little to no pain. Second time it took me 1 and half years to taper off.

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@christineb23

I started with pain in october 2024 which got really bad by january 2025. The rheumatologist thinks it is PMR, but is not 100% sure. Late January I started with prednisone 15mg daily for 1 week, 10mg daily for 1 week, 5mg daily for one week. Things were feeling great until I dropped to 2.5mg daily. Within a few days, the pain and stiffness returned. Since I was going on vacation, the doctor suggested I take 5mg daily until I returned.
She thought maybe 2.5mg was too much of a drop. She suggested 4mg daily for 1 month. I decided to try 4.5mg for the first week. I am at 9 days at that dose and the pain and stiffness is creeping back in, worse every day.
Can you tell me if you were able to drop in dose and NOT have pain return, or is this not realistic? The doctor said that I may need to start methotrexate. I need to do some research. I feel very hesitant about that.

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This video is also helpful. I like how she explains it.
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@christineb23

I started with pain in october 2024 which got really bad by january 2025. The rheumatologist thinks it is PMR, but is not 100% sure. Late January I started with prednisone 15mg daily for 1 week, 10mg daily for 1 week, 5mg daily for one week. Things were feeling great until I dropped to 2.5mg daily. Within a few days, the pain and stiffness returned. Since I was going on vacation, the doctor suggested I take 5mg daily until I returned.
She thought maybe 2.5mg was too much of a drop. She suggested 4mg daily for 1 month. I decided to try 4.5mg for the first week. I am at 9 days at that dose and the pain and stiffness is creeping back in, worse every day.
Can you tell me if you were able to drop in dose and NOT have pain return, or is this not realistic? The doctor said that I may need to start methotrexate. I need to do some research. I feel very hesitant about that.

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Your rheumatologist can answer this better than anyone but going back up a little bit is a fine answer. You can always taper back down again , and next time taper at a slower rate. like 1mg per month. My rheumatologist agave me two choices the methotrexate or something like that and prednisone. They both will work he said. I picked the prednisone and am at 4mg. My inflammation blood work is finally in the normal range after about 6 months of this. My plan is to taper at 1mg per month for the rest as long as all goes well. I also started at 15mg. My non medical understanding is it just takes a bit of time for the PMR to burn itself out. And when you get down to 5mg and less a slow taper is key to success.

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@wfroslansky

Your rheumatologist can answer this better than anyone but going back up a little bit is a fine answer. You can always taper back down again , and next time taper at a slower rate. like 1mg per month. My rheumatologist agave me two choices the methotrexate or something like that and prednisone. They both will work he said. I picked the prednisone and am at 4mg. My inflammation blood work is finally in the normal range after about 6 months of this. My plan is to taper at 1mg per month for the rest as long as all goes well. I also started at 15mg. My non medical understanding is it just takes a bit of time for the PMR to burn itself out. And when you get down to 5mg and less a slow taper is key to success.

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"My non medical understanding is it just takes a bit of time for the PMR to burn itself out. And when you get down to 5mg and less a slow taper is key to success."
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True in the majority of cases. However, sometimes PMR doesn't burn itself out and sometimes people take 5 mg of prednisone for the rest of their life.

If a person has trouble at approximately 7 mg and always seem to flare at lower doses of prednisone their adrenal function might be the problem. It is hard to ignore withdrawal symptoms and adrenal suppression as a side effect of long term prednisone use. However, a slow taper is still the key to success.

Otherwise a biologic like Kevzara or some other medication that doesn't suppress adrenal function might be helpful. Lifelong prednisone is hard on the body and not a good outcome according to many medical professionals.

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@johnbishop

Welcome @christineb23, It sounds like you may be tapering too fast. Each of us are different. You might find this discussion started by @dadcue helpful, it has some good references that provide and explanation:
-- How to Slowly and Safely Taper Off Prednisone but ... no set rules.:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/how-to-slowly-and-safely-taper-off-prednisone-but-no-set-rules/
My PMR experience with 2 occurrences 6 years apart starting at 20 mg prednisone for each - the first time took 3 and half years to taper off with the last six months going back and forth between 1 and 1/2 mg prednisone until I could stop taking it with little to no pain. Second time it took me 1 and half years to taper off.

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Thank you for the reply. im very new to this. Very unsure and unsettled about the whole thing

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@dadcue

This video is also helpful. I like how she explains it.
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Here is another good video.

I wonder if it would be possible to compile a bunch of good videos under various topics.
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I started with 15 mg daily in 2020. Tried to go down a couple of times. This time when I went to 2 mg I got severe jaw pain and headache. I even have visible vessels on my temple. I am afraid of gca and have to find out what I should do now

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@plaisc

I started with 15 mg daily in 2020. Tried to go down a couple of times. This time when I went to 2 mg I got severe jaw pain and headache. I even have visible vessels on my temple. I am afraid of gca and have to find out what I should do now

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Are you seeing a rheumatologist? You might ask them, if you are a candidate for Actemra. If you do a search in this forum, you'll find a lot of discussions on the positive benefits from those of us who get it. I've only been getting it for 3 months and there is a huge improvement in my health. Others have been taking it for longer.

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@plaisc

I started with 15 mg daily in 2020. Tried to go down a couple of times. This time when I went to 2 mg I got severe jaw pain and headache. I even have visible vessels on my temple. I am afraid of gca and have to find out what I should do now

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If it was me, I would be in the ER. Save your vision. Do not wait.

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@plaisc

I started with 15 mg daily in 2020. Tried to go down a couple of times. This time when I went to 2 mg I got severe jaw pain and headache. I even have visible vessels on my temple. I am afraid of gca and have to find out what I should do now

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There was a point where I was worried about GCA as well. Fortunately, I did not have it but every health care professional I spoke with emphasized the need to be seen ASAP to preserve vision. Don't delay!!

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