Nasal Congestion: What helps, especially at night?

Posted by patrick1000 @patrick1000, Feb 13 5:58pm

I have COPD, asthma, and a bit of emphysema and am using Trelegy and ipratropiam. Winter and summer about half way through the night a get extreme congestion sometimes totally blocking my nasal breathing.
Any tips?

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@ssk999

Is your pillow raised? It Has to be to help with gerd.
Follow up with the ENT. Follow up with an allergist maybe also. Sorry I cannot give you better answers.

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Thank you. I appreciate your response. Not sure what to do at this point.

Drop back and punt.

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@tc7231

I also have severe nasal congestion and tried the various pills and sprays which didn’t help much. The only thing that helped was rinsing the nasal passages with a warm salt/baking soda solution (Neil-Med Sinus Rinse Kit, sold everywhere) 2 to 3times a day. It’s amazing the crud that comes out.

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@tc7231
I echo your comments.

No one mentioned to me before I started doing the nasal saline rinses with doing them with warm water. I first started off with regular room temperature purified water. For some reason I heated up the water one day in microwave and it seemed to relax and open my nasal passages better.

I did check with my ENT and said nothing wrong with doing that. I take an inhaler each day called XHANCE and another one as needed. What ENT told me the nasal rinses were excellent just don't do the nasal rinses after using any nasal inhaler as will remove it.

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@jc76

@tc7231
I echo your comments.

No one mentioned to me before I started doing the nasal saline rinses with doing them with warm water. I first started off with regular room temperature purified water. For some reason I heated up the water one day in microwave and it seemed to relax and open my nasal passages better.

I did check with my ENT and said nothing wrong with doing that. I take an inhaler each day called XHANCE and another one as needed. What ENT told me the nasal rinses were excellent just don't do the nasal rinses after using any nasal inhaler as will remove it.

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I do the nasal rinse in streaks, honestly, @jc76 and @tc7231. I'll get really into it for a while, then kind of phase out. But I honestly think I'd feel better with my allergies every day if I did it regularly.

It makes sense to use any nasal spray/inhaler after the rinse to start with a clean slate and not lose it, jc76.

Someone told me they just used tap water in their bathroom for their nasal rinses, as it's too much hassle to go across the house to boil some water. I thought that was a good idea for me when I started up nasal rinsing again recently. However, I read about some potentially infectious organisms you can be exposed to if the water is unboiled and cooled, or distilled. Here's an example of the kind of information I read from the FDA:

- Is Rinsing Your Sinuses With Neti Pots Safe? https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/rinsing-your-sinuses-neti-pots-safe

The thought of in-taking infectious organisms "scared me straight." I've used my husband's CPAP distilled water lately, however, which is room temperature. But it sounds like you suggest warm water for the best effect. Any other "must-do's" for the best outcome with nasal rinses?

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@lisalucier

I do the nasal rinse in streaks, honestly, @jc76 and @tc7231. I'll get really into it for a while, then kind of phase out. But I honestly think I'd feel better with my allergies every day if I did it regularly.

It makes sense to use any nasal spray/inhaler after the rinse to start with a clean slate and not lose it, jc76.

Someone told me they just used tap water in their bathroom for their nasal rinses, as it's too much hassle to go across the house to boil some water. I thought that was a good idea for me when I started up nasal rinsing again recently. However, I read about some potentially infectious organisms you can be exposed to if the water is unboiled and cooled, or distilled. Here's an example of the kind of information I read from the FDA:

- Is Rinsing Your Sinuses With Neti Pots Safe? https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/rinsing-your-sinuses-neti-pots-safe

The thought of in-taking infectious organisms "scared me straight." I've used my husband's CPAP distilled water lately, however, which is room temperature. But it sounds like you suggest warm water for the best effect. Any other "must-do's" for the best outcome with nasal rinses?

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@lisalucier
Regarding the using purified/distilled water for rinses. I learned this years ago with Mayo ENT wanted me to do a steroid rinse mixed with NeilMed Sinus Rinse. She stressed using purified or distilled water as using tap water would be putting germs, and bacteria up into sinuses.

You can buy gallon water bottles of purified water or distilled water. That is what I use. I used the saline rinse at room temp and then one day said I think it would feel better if warm. So I warmed up the solution(used a glass container okay for microwave) in Microwave, felt great. Don't get to hot though needs to be just warm.

Now I read on the bottle of NeilMed on front says, "Use warm solution, Squeeze gently." It also has visual direction on how to use. So much for thinking using warm water was my idea.

You can use the Microwave to disinfect the bottle of NeilMed if that is what you use. Just follow the directions. If you use something else to put saline in have to follow how to disinfect that particular device.

I think doing saline rinses is to do them slowly bent over a sink and ensure is going in one nostril and coming out the other. Then trying to make sure stay bent over sink to let water drain out before you stand up.

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It is 1 of 2 things. CRS or Rhinitis. Sprays really don't do much but that's what you have to do before a procedure. Other solution is Biologics. Dupixent Xolair Nucala. That's what's being pushed heavily rite now by Allergists n ENTs. No guarantees but its gonna be alot of trial and error. Been thru it for last 4 years.

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@sueinmn

I don't often jump in here, but WOW I had a stuffy nose big time this morning - in the dentist's chair; every time he laid the chair back, it was like my nasal passages slammed shut and I could only breathe through my mouth. It brought back memories of childhood, where I breathed fine all day, and got completely stuffed up when I laid down. Needless to say, he was not happy with a mouth-breathing patient while he was drilling.

Step one - my Dad found the first culprit - my beloved, squishy down pillow. (He couldn't use them either, or even have feathers or down in the bedroom.) That helped, but I still got stuffed up about halfway through the night.

One night I realized that whenever I woke up I had turned from sleeping on my side to my back. If I turned on my side, gradually the upper nasal passage would clear enough to breathe. I did that for at least 30 years, suffering chronic sinus & ear infections along the way. As an adult, I finally saw the same ENT who was treating my kids, he found very narrow passageways, eustachian tube dysfunction (he assumed these were narrow too) and a deviated septum as well as crud and scar tissue in my sinuses. He cleaned it all out, reset my nose, and my breathing has been more or less normal for a number of years.

Now, my ancient airways are haunting me again - closing up at crazy times, and I have sleep apnea. I'm working with the ENT on a solution.

Azalastine spray at bedtime has helped, and during allergy season I use it mid-morning as well.

I hope you can find a solution - air hunger in the middle of the night is not conducive to sound sleep!

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do allergy. shots. help

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@petrullo

do allergy. shots. help

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I personally have not tried them - maybe someone here can share their experiences.

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@sueinmn

I personally have not tried them - maybe someone here can share their experiences.

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Hi, @sueinmn - my experience with allergy shots is that they helped a lot with my cat allergy and helped very little with my house dust allergy.

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