Want to connect with others with Splenic B cell Marginal Zone Lymphoma

Posted by April @sabtahis, Jul 24, 2016

There are over 80 different subtypes of lymphoma . This is a slow growing lymphoma.I'd like to know and communicate with any patient if possible.

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I was treated on January 2023
with Bedamustine and Rituxin with a patch for 24 hours to stimulate my wbc. I had this 3 day treatment until June 2023. It was stage 4 in my bone marrow. I'm just curious that everyone else had 4 treatments of Rituxin. Not Bedamustine.

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@trixie1

I was treated on January 2023
with Bedamustine and Rituxin with a patch for 24 hours to stimulate my wbc. I had this 3 day treatment until June 2023. It was stage 4 in my bone marrow. I'm just curious that everyone else had 4 treatments of Rituxin. Not Bedamustine.

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It is interesting… the different treatments that our docs are saying are first line…
Nothing but Rituximab was suggested for my first four treatments. I’ll know what’s next after my March 6 scans/labs.
Has your treatment been successful so far? Did you have any side effects?
I hope you are feeling ok.

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@mrgreentea

Hi @andilynn - one comment - I heard that some ppl give themselves subcutaneous IgG shots every week or two. They mention 2 benefits - they can do it at home, and it evens out the IgG over the month. This is what I will try to get when they say I can get IgG. It's too bad that IgA replacement therapies don't exist yet (I have low IgA). I did see that there is research going on in this area, so fingers crossed. Finally, I'm on Brukinsa 8 months so far, no issues yet.

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Hi Mrgreentea,

It’s good to hear that you’re doing well on Brukinsa. May I ask what your dosage is? My first oncologist had me on 4 pills a day. That was too much for me. I switched oncologists and now I’m on one a day. We’ll reevaluate in a couple months to see if it’s working, or if we need to increase the dosage. I’ve been getting subcutaneous immunoglobulins for over a year. It’s done at a hospital, by wonderful nurses, every four weeks.
I wish you all luck on your health journey.

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@monicalu2626

Hi Lori, thank you for the quick reply.
Hello everyone!
It’s been difficult finding others who are living with SMZL. It’s sure a marathon, vs a sprint…and a bit of a mystery. I did read thru many of the posts. Very helpful.

I completed four weeks of Rituximab infusions on Jan 31. Unfortunately, I had a reaction during 3 of the 4 treatments- very scary! Thankfully the nursing team was always prepared and compassionate.
That said, I’m on a break for the month of Feb and will start up again on March 7. Depending on labs and scans, it may be that I’m starting maintenance every 2 months. Fingers crossed!
If not, we’ll figure out what’s next.

When I was finally diagnosed, after two years of trying to improve my anemia, unfortunately, my spleen had doubled in size and 70% of my bone marrow was involved. The fatigue!! and shortness of breath!! limited me to any kind of activity for only about 15 minutes at a time.
(my job requires a lot of travel, and often 15-20,000 steps a day)

Luckily, my system seems to be responding to the R.
Thanks for the welcome!

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Hi everyone, I’m hoping you can please share about pain? After each of my four initial Rituximab infusions I experienced burning bone and nerve pain in my legs. Because my bone marrow is quite involved, I expected some pain, but not to the extent that it wakes me up.
Have you had this type of pain? If so, what helped?

Also- I’m wondering if anyone experienced the infusion reaction rigors? Was it just during your first treatment? Or were you blessed to have no allergic reaction?

Thank you in advance for sharing!

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@andilynn

Hi Mrgreentea,

It’s good to hear that you’re doing well on Brukinsa. May I ask what your dosage is? My first oncologist had me on 4 pills a day. That was too much for me. I switched oncologists and now I’m on one a day. We’ll reevaluate in a couple months to see if it’s working, or if we need to increase the dosage. I’ve been getting subcutaneous immunoglobulins for over a year. It’s done at a hospital, by wonderful nurses, every four weeks.
I wish you all luck on your health journey.

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@andilynn I take 2 pills 2x/day w/water. I also drink about 64oz during the day, which can help reduce stress on the kidneys. No reactions. I am curious if your docs have offered any reasons for your response to it. I know other folks have reacted to Z...you might seek them out & see if they have found any solutions (maybe, even as simple as taking it with food). I am also on the CLL community at healthunlocked.com - that would be another place to ask. If Z doesn't work out you can always ask your doc about one of the newer treatment options... Take Care.

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@monicalu2626

Hi, thanks for sharing! I’m wondering if you did Rituximab maintenance, or are you doing Brukinsa instead? TIA

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Hi @monicalu2626, my doc started me with Brukinsa (aka Z) last June. I think my WBCs were around 60,000 at the time. I was dx'd with CLL,WM, and SMZL stage 4... He recently suggested that **I** might consider a BCL2 or a CD20 antibody (like rituximab, though he mentioned obinutuzumab) to "deepen the response". I don't feel I have enough info yet to make that decision myself...I'll discuss it again at my next appt in March.

I was really sorry to read that you had such a bad experience with rituximab!! It feels like we all need to play russian roulette with drugs on this journey. Always hoping for the best.

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@mrgreentea

Hi @monicalu2626, my doc started me with Brukinsa (aka Z) last June. I think my WBCs were around 60,000 at the time. I was dx'd with CLL,WM, and SMZL stage 4... He recently suggested that **I** might consider a BCL2 or a CD20 antibody (like rituximab, though he mentioned obinutuzumab) to "deepen the response". I don't feel I have enough info yet to make that decision myself...I'll discuss it again at my next appt in March.

I was really sorry to read that you had such a bad experience with rituximab!! It feels like we all need to play russian roulette with drugs on this journey. Always hoping for the best.

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Hi @mrgreentea,
I’m sorry to hear you have so much going on. Have you obtained a second opinion?My labs have anomalies and crossover between different lymphomas. It’s crazy.
Rituximab appears to be a front line drug for small B cell lymphomas. Most people only have a reaction during their first infusion, if any. I’m going to stick with it. I just need to keep taking the pré-meds (most people don’t need them after the first treatment) and they will slow down the drip.
It is making a difference in my blood counts, and I’m suffering much less fatigue and bone pain. Yippee! Don’t be scared off by the reaction possibilities if you want to give it a try. It has been around for about twenty years.
Sending positive energy!

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@monicalu2626 Thank you - I feel quite fortunate actually. I realize that it could be so much worse. Regarding 2nd opinions, I had a few docs at Mayo trying to figure things out. Since I had several issues it took some time (5 months) to determine what was going on. The cancer doc I started with, before I decided to reach out to Mayo, also struggled.

What I wonder is, if it ain't broke why try to fix it? I'm OK with where I am now on Z. It's just unclear in what way Ritux or Obin will improve my situation, and if there are any downsides.

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Was diagnosed with SMZL in 2022. Was treated with rutiximab with complete response however still had severe pain kept telling doctor something was stuck. Doctor dismissed me. I found rare cancer center near me and they recommend a splenectomy. They removed in march 2023 spleen was stuck to my diaphragm. Was recently diagnosed with nodal marginal zone lymphoma and just completed radiation. Has anyone had a 2nd MZL diagnosis. The radiation fatigue is the worst.

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@audreyzm

Was diagnosed with SMZL in 2022. Was treated with rutiximab with complete response however still had severe pain kept telling doctor something was stuck. Doctor dismissed me. I found rare cancer center near me and they recommend a splenectomy. They removed in march 2023 spleen was stuck to my diaphragm. Was recently diagnosed with nodal marginal zone lymphoma and just completed radiation. Has anyone had a 2nd MZL diagnosis. The radiation fatigue is the worst.

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@audreyzm While you’re waiting for other members to reply about a 2nd diagnosis for MZL, I wanted to welcome you to Mayo Connect. I’m sorry you’ve had a double whammy with this disease after having such a positive response with the Rituximab for the first diagnosis.
But what a crazy story with your spleen! Kudos for pushing to get answers for that unexplained severe pain. You know your body better than anyone else and it was telling you something was definitely not right! I have to know, did you ever report the findings to the doctor who was so dismissive about your pain?
I hope you recover quickly from your radiation treatments. The fatigue should slowly disappear within a couple weeks. Rest often, eat healthy proteins, fresh fruits and veggies high in antioxidants and drink plenty of water daily…aiming for at least 64 ounces. Was the radiation localized?

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