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No tsh. T3 through the roof

Posted by ssivitality @ssivitality, Jan 20 8:58pm

Why is thyroid not making tsh and way too much t3? Dont have all symptoms of hypo or hyper thyroid. Under extreme stress over past 8 yrs frm matters eyond my control. Since test results, on strictly whole food. Sleeping way better and heart rate normalized. Body temp each morning is normal?
Any thoughts?

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Joanne Narna | @mothermary1 | 4 days ago
In reply to @ssivitality "Got my preliminary numbers: TSH < 0.01 T4 Free 22.3 T3 Free 10.7 Everything else is..." + (show)
@ssivitality

Got my preliminary numbers:
TSH < 0.01
T4 Free 22.3
T3 Free 10.7
Everything else is normal in numbers including B12, Ferritin, Glucose, Hemoglobin Alc, Sodium, Potassium, Creatinine, GFR, Bilirubin, Gamma GT, Alanine Aminotransferase, LDL, HDL Cholesterol, Cholesterol, non HDL Cholesterol, Triglycerides, WBC, RBC, Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, MCV, RDW, Platelet count, Neutrophils, Lymphocytes, Monocytes, Eosinophilia and Basophils.
Not that I even know what all of this means …
Waiting for endro appt.
Thank you everyone, for your input. Your comments mean alot.
Only odd symptom I’ve experienced is my heart jumping around. Normally I’m healthy, active and no family history of this. Under extreme prolonged stress for far too long and isn’t over yet. My sleep was bad throughout for three years straight, then heart rate spiking plays havoc on a good nights sleep. On a whole food properly combined diet. This came out of left feild. Didn’t show in blood work in the recent years prior. See what Specialist has to say.
All thoughts in light of these numbers welcome, appreciated and grateful for. Thank you very much.
I am in Canada btw.

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Hard to say because other than thyroid stuff the rest seems like typical yearly tests.
It’s tough to explain because machines used in testing vary from place to place so without the range for normal tough to help.

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slkanowitz | @slkanowitz | 3 days ago

Your heart skipping beats, going too fast and going into a fib is a symptom from your hyper thyroidism. You could get good symptom relief from that if you got a medication from your doctor for a beta blocker like Atenolol which will reduce your heart rate, control the irregularity and help prevent the atrial fibrillation. this medication could be started immediately since that’s your only major symptom of your excess thyroid hormone and you’d be a lot more comfortable until your upcoming appointment with the endocrinologist. Atenolol can also reduce your blood pressure slightly so as long as your blood pressure is normal and you have a little leeway for it to drop a bit you should be fine. it is well tolerated and works great to control the cardiac symptoms of hyper thyroidism.

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slkanowitz | @slkanowitz | 3 days ago

To make this simple just throw Graves disease, T3 toxicosis, and hyperthyroidism all in the excess thyroid hormone bucket treated by suppressing thyroid hormone and hypothyroidism in the low thyroid hormone bucket treated by supplementing thyroid hormone. Each bucket produces different. Often opposite symptoms and labs. Hashimotos specifies it as autoimmune.

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stan4745 | @stan4745 | 2 days ago
In reply to @meeshodge "No, but they do phone and video visits!" + (show)
@meeshodge

No, but they do phone and video visits!

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May I ask if you have thyroid-related heart problem. I need to find a new endocrinologist for this purpose.

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jabrown0407 | @jabrown0407 | 2 days ago
In reply to @ssivitality "Thank you for this response. I will take a look at suggested reading. Diet is very..." + (show)
@ssivitality

Thank you for this response. I will take a look at suggested reading.
Diet is very important. Consumption consists of whole food only, no caffeine whatsoever, grains known to cause problems, zero dairy products. As much live and in season food as possible. No refined sugars, only good fats but most important that I’ve found is regular before 10pm sleep and up before sunrise. Only drink water with lemon or lime as well as herb t until nine then fruit only until noon. Proper food combining essential. Regular elimination daily a must, clean teeth and mouth, feet and body. Daily exercise, even just walking.
I got my test results Jan 06. What has the above protocols done for me so far?
Has brought resting heart rate down, lowered, at least eliminated the over 100bpm just sitting and the booming of my heart in pillow when trying to sleep.
I was supplementing with acerola C, probiotics, ComplexB but now not regularly, at the moment.
I am meditating twice daily which makes a huge difference.
Were low adrenals and haven’t recently checked back on that yet.
Stress has been large and is the contributing factor as my lifestyle is fairly clean and much more now.
Other stay had huge recurring stress factor I couldn’t avoid. That night boom boom in pillow again. Upped meditations, sleep and avoidance of all stressors best I can.
I believe my body has ability to heal itself, with my help and mindfulness.
I’ve started incorporating a herbal blend formulated for hypothyroidism sourced locally. Will report back in a mnths time so again, thank you for suggested read.

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Please read up on the B vitamins, some are water soluble and flush out of your system easily, some are not and you can build up toxic levels. Not saying you have this, but it can happen. Taking vitamins and minerals without a doctor monitoring them is a bit risky. Pay your money and take your chances. The human body is super complex and self-diagnosis and treatments can be the source of problems rather than the solution to problems. Talk with your primary doctor and/or your endo about taking vitamins and minerals.

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kfrenc04 | @kfrenc04 | 2 days ago
In reply to @kayabbott "I have idiopathic rather than Hashimoto's, so just Synthroid works for me. My doctors recommended a..." + (show)
@kayabbott

I have idiopathic rather than Hashimoto's, so just Synthroid works for me. My doctors recommended a minimum of 2 hours away from meals because calcium, iron, and others suppress Synthroid and some other thyroid meds.

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Someone please help. I was diagnosed with Graves Disease by an ultrasound of my thyroid. I had very low TSH levels, and had many of the symptoms. My doctor did nothing. My T4 and T3 and TSH levels last bloodwork should all three were back in range. I have such bad tremors I can’t hardly write hardly write. I’m on meds to control my heart rate, I am hyper most of the day. Hard to relax and sleep. I have many other symptoms and my doctor will not put me on meds because my tests are now normal. My TPO bloodwork was just taken and was clearly abnormal. Still no meds. Why can I have all these symptoms with normal TSH and T3 & 4 shows normal range. I am miserable and need advice. Thank you kindly.

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kayabbott | @kayabbott | 2 days ago
In reply to @kfrenc04 "Someone please help. I was diagnosed with Graves Disease by an ultrasound of my thyroid. I..." + (show)
@kfrenc04

Someone please help. I was diagnosed with Graves Disease by an ultrasound of my thyroid. I had very low TSH levels, and had many of the symptoms. My doctor did nothing. My T4 and T3 and TSH levels last bloodwork should all three were back in range. I have such bad tremors I can’t hardly write hardly write. I’m on meds to control my heart rate, I am hyper most of the day. Hard to relax and sleep. I have many other symptoms and my doctor will not put me on meds because my tests are now normal. My TPO bloodwork was just taken and was clearly abnormal. Still no meds. Why can I have all these symptoms with normal TSH and T3 & 4 shows normal range. I am miserable and need advice. Thank you kindly.

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Graves disease and low TSH are indicators for hyperthyroidism. My TSH numbers fluctuate some (hypothyroid), but your treatment is only for your cardiovascular system? Is he/she a PC doctor or specialist? It would be good to consult an endocrinologist to evaluate your conditions and treatments. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/overactive-thyroid-hyperthyroidism/treatment/
https://www.uofmhealth.org/conditions-treatments/endocrinology-diabetes-and-metabolism/hyperthyroidism-and-graves-disease

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kfrenc04 | @kfrenc04 | 1 day ago
In reply to @kayabbott "Graves disease and low TSH are indicators for hyperthyroidism. My TSH numbers fluctuate some (hypothyroid), but..." + (show)
@kayabbott

Graves disease and low TSH are indicators for hyperthyroidism. My TSH numbers fluctuate some (hypothyroid), but your treatment is only for your cardiovascular system? Is he/she a PC doctor or specialist? It would be good to consult an endocrinologist to evaluate your conditions and treatments. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/overactive-thyroid-hyperthyroidism/treatment/
https://www.uofmhealth.org/conditions-treatments/endocrinology-diabetes-and-metabolism/hyperthyroidism-and-graves-disease

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My doctor is a NJ endocrinologist. Yes, I am on 180mg of Diltiazem which does control my irregular heart beats. My endocrinologist will not put me on meds because T3&4 and have all gone back to normal. Mt TPO blood test was extremely high and out of normal range. Other symptoms besides the bad tremors are my eye now need drops to take the scratchy feeling away. Do you agree with no meds for myself?

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kayabbott | @kayabbott | 1 day ago
In reply to @kfrenc04 "My doctor is a NJ endocrinologist. Yes, I am on 180mg of Diltiazem which does control..." + (show)
@kfrenc04

My doctor is a NJ endocrinologist. Yes, I am on 180mg of Diltiazem which does control my irregular heart beats. My endocrinologist will not put me on meds because T3&4 and have all gone back to normal. Mt TPO blood test was extremely high and out of normal range. Other symptoms besides the bad tremors are my eye now need drops to take the scratchy feeling away. Do you agree with no meds for myself?

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I am not a medical doctor and have no knowledge of your medical history, so can't comment on your meds. However, if your other symptoms are causing you problems then consider checking with another doctor in case something other than or in addition to hyperthyroidism is involved. I imagine he/she considered Hashimoto's, but that is commonly hypo rather than hyperthyroidism. Gel eye drops help some with eye dryness, preferable with minimal preservatives. https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a684027.html https://dryeyeandme.co.uk/eye-drops-vs-eye-gel-for-dry-eyes/#:~:text=What's%20the%20difference%20between%20regular,option%20for%20severe%20Dry%20Eye.

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