My Anger is overwhelming

Posted by Denise @denisestlouie, Feb 20 8:56pm

I'm so angry. I've felt this way off and on for 3 years and that was before my Crohn's diagnosis and my cancer diagnosis. I don't have a clue where its coming from. I've been in therapy since 2021. I've worked with 2 different therapists with different approaches. I'm taking buspirone. I used to take an Lexapro but that didn't help me.

Since my cancer diagnosis the anger is more intense. I fired my GI I'm constantly thinking about firing my oncologist. I haven't stopped any cancer therapy. I'm focused on my health. I'm doing things to strengthen my body. I think that's one positive thing that I do.

Sometimes I think about selling everything and move away to be by myself. I honestly don't think I would miss anyone, except my daughter.

I have days that are worse than others. Today is an exceptionally bad day. There was no trigger. I woke up angry.

I've been told anger is a secondary emotion that help us deal with other emotions. I don't know what it would be. It's not depression. I think one of the therapist would have identified depression.

My anger is so in your face other people dont want to hear what I'm saying not do they understand. That's probably why they don't want to hear me talk about the things and people that agitated me.

I'm writing in my journal trying to calm myself. I post here regularly for an outlet.

When I'm angry I'm either fierce or I cry. It's confusing. It's lonely when I'm not alone. I don't drink anymore. So it's not alcohol. I just don't know what else I should be doing.

I used to be a very happy person. I've never been easy going. I've always had passion for my work and now I couldn't careless. I hate this. I hate that I'm a different person. I'm some one I don't even know anymore.

I sometimes think I'm angry about the way my life turned out. Honestly on the surface I've done pretty well for myself and my daughter.

I think maybe it's just me. Maybe I don't like being me.

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@isadora2021

@denisestlouie Your post made me cry. As did those of others on here who understand and have shared your depth of anger. As a starting point, I am in awe of how you all own it and can voice it. That emotional investigation (while unresolved yet in your case) is so powerful and important.

The mind is a funny thing - layers upon confusing layers with a multitude of experiences and personal takeaways from those experiences! Often deeply embedded and tangled.

We spend so much time looking into other people’s mental issues without getting to recognise, understand and work on our own!!! I applaud you and others for the work you’ve done not just to examine what’s going on but also doing positive stuff, including in your case looking after your health and giving up on alcohol. Not at all easy but you’ve done it. Those steps show an immense strength of character you may not appreciate about yourself.

I like you (I’ve read not just this post but many of your other comments). I hope you can find books, podcasts etc that work for YOU and help you like yourself. Therapy is not one size fits all. When my mother died suddenly my original family imploded. So much anger directed at me by my siblings (my mother made me her executor and left me her much loved rings she was wearing when she passed). Therapy to steady my own ship was amazing - but I got exactly the right therapist for me through a friend’s recommendation.

Please keep pushing forward and sharing 🙏❤️‍🩹

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Podcast have been a huge help at night to help fall asleep when my mind wanders to unhelpful thoughts. I enjoy Smartless and a few other podcasts.

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@northoftheborder

First, go ahead and be angry. It's OK. Crohn's sucks. Cancer sucks.

I think the important thing is to see anger as a transition. Let it happen — even embrace it for a while — but think of it as a vehicle that's taking you from where you were before to where you'll be in the future. It's a bumpy ride, but the ride isn't your final destination.

If you're finding the anger too hard to live with in the meantime, obviously working with a professional therapist is the best choice, but if that doesn't work for you (due to preferences or finances), there are therapies that can be very effective for many people when self-administered, like Cognitive-Behavioural Therapy (CBT) or Acceptance-Commitment Therapy (ACT).

The original CBT book was "Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy" written by Dr. David Burns 45 years ago. It still holds up fairly well (it helped me get over chronic anxiety 20 years ago), and has actually been through multiple clinical trials that have demonstrated that it has efficacy the same as or better than medication for many situations.

There have been many more resources published since then, of course. What they all help you do is break down the anger so that it's no longer a tidal wave threatening to drown you, but something you can examine, understand, and even have a pseudo-conversation with.

Best of luck!

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I appreciate what northoftheborder is saying. There are many ways these days to examine for yourself what your strong reactions are all about. A “know thyself” as the philosopher says. I think my cancer is giving me the challenge to examine what my life is all about. That position gives me a little distance to look at my lifeline so far and open my mind to possibilities.
It’s important for me not to let emotions pull me around all over the place. That’s too exhausting, no fun, and gets me nowhere but in a downward spiral I don’t need right now.

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One of things I have seen as a Chaplain, is anger showing when someone needs to grieve something. You're having to deal with a lot of loss, such as what you thought your life would be , who you are or how you see yourself, your expectations for the future. Maybe you need to explore that and allow yourself to grieve any losses. But then look forward to the things in your life you value , that you get to experience. Shift to focus daily on those. That builds your resilience for moving forward.
Prayers

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The timelines for "Cancer Me" and "Cancer-free Me" diverged in 2021, and as time has passed, I know less and less about what "Cancer-free Me"'s life might be like -- if he somehow exists in a parallel universe, he's probably become a very different person than I am today. Perhaps his life is better than mine; perhaps it's worse; or perhaps he died in late 2021 in a car accident because he was out driving while I was stuck in hospital. 🤷

But I find myself grieving less for what might have been as it drifts further from the life I'm actually living (including all the good parts). I think that must be how acceptance happens.

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Try to make sure that your psychologist is treating the right symptom for you anger. Sometimes the emotion extremes, especially anger, is what happen to us as our brains age. Meaning that it is as much a physical ailment as it is an emotional one.
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I've read some of the other replies and your original entry.
Don't know about the anger before diagnosis, but can relate to the after diagnosis....it is part of the grieving process! Until I got my diagnosis ( 3 weeks after my bowel obstruction surgery) I was confused and angry. Then I was really angry when I got the diagnosis. Angry with the first ER unit, and angry at my PCP. Angry with everyone and everybody. I knew I needed to grieve....I needed to breakdown... And grieve my lost future. Grieve my projects I can't finish. Grieve for my family and lost graduations, concerts and recitals, and weddings and graduations and family events. Etc etc. I did not see the end of the tunnel. But once I broke down...I started to recover. I got myself a therapist and in the confines of her office I continue to grieve and adjust. It's a process. Learning to talk to others ( family) about my loss and grief. I hope knowing others have gone thru this is helpful. Hugs from joanne

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You go girl! Be angry if that’s how you feel… just make sure it’s properly directed. That’s great you quit drinking… another reason to be angry… let it be your therapy. No smoking, no drinking, and at least with tnbc… no thc. I’m hoping I can find a psychedelic mushroom that has anti tumor properties to microdose. Meanwhile, almost any oncologist would prescribe either of us barbiturates….. and not tell you that statistics say we’d die sooner and have a hard time with withdrawal once we join the addiction wagon.

When I get angry… and I do… it’s very justified and directed. I’m able to be sane, rather than lashing out, and articulate with reasoning. Breathing is a great way for me to get hold of feelings that feel out of control.
Be smart… be mad at the right things… find a reason to laugh…and accept that cancer is a crappy deal. Everyone would agree.

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My husband has a saying that don't be upset with something you can't change. He had an Iliostomy. Obviously he can't be angry about that It's a done deal and saved his life. Does he get angry with having to empty and change the pouch. No... it's a new way of life. No frowns, no anger. It is what it is. He also has cancer in his liver. Again, it is what it is. Nothing you can get angry about because it's a fact and the cards you are dealt. If you don't have anger you don't have to get rid of anger. Make the most of your life and put a smile on your face and go forward to the next new day with a positive attitude.

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@stevecando54

Well, while we are sharing our emotions, I'll say that over the years I too have suffered from anger issues. I was in therapy for a while, got upset, told her to go %$#$ herself and never went back. I think it's most likely related to child hood issues. I have gotten much better , I believe getting older helped alot (70). I sometimes wake up, angry to start the day and don't have a clue as to why. I try very hard to turn it around and not let it wreck my day. I did get upset the day they told me my cancer diagnosis but since then I've been okay with it. Most times now, little things make me laugh, sometimes for no reason, I just start laughing. I wish I could pass along some tidbit of wisdom on how to stop being angry, but I can't. Maybe the anger just wore me down, it does take lot out of a person. I do wish you the best and hope you find something to make the anger go away. Best to all.

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Well, your anger sounds more like frustration than anger to me.
It happens to everybody. I am in Canada. In February, many of us become so frustrated with the weather that we have invented a name for our frustration: February Blues.
Whatever the name, it may depend on the idea that we have a right to something, like better weather or a healthier body.
Let us realize that we don’t have any of those hypothetical rights.
Because, in reality, we are born in a place on the planet, and there is no perfect place on it. Nowhere!.
Our genetics shape our bodies, along with the random conditions of our mother’s body, our nourishment, health history, the purity of the water we drink, the rhythm of our lives, the financial circumstances of the family, and the healthcare provided to us by the government—you name it!
Can we be angry with someone for all that?
My mother used to say to me, "When you feel frustrated, look behind you. Countless people will take your place in life immediately!"

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Hi. I went through anger after the shock of being diagnosed with cancer. I just couldn’t believe it. I have no family history of cancer and I wind up having cancer. I was scared and I was dealing with another illness that I was diagnosed the year before. My autoimmune disease completely changed my life. I wasn’t able to work. I had lost my balance, my hearing and my 20/20 vision. I was limited to staying in bed because I get easily fatigued and so much more. I did everything I could to get better in which I did improve but then I had cancer.
It’s so overwhelming. I went back to therapy but I went to the Cancer Wellness Center and I signed up with the support groups and other programs they have. It helped me deal with my anger constructively. I learned other coping skills along the way so now I’m better in handling my emotions.
I hope that you find a way to work with your anger. I’m glad that you’re giving therapy a chance. Take care.

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