MCTD and saline implants - connection ?

Posted by Deedee @syltejr, Jan 20 9:41am

Hello. I have been having severe brain fog and fatigue and had every test under the sun the last year including an MRI of the brain last week that was normal, EXCEPT for MCTD which was diagnosed last fall. I’ve had saline implants for about 20 years with no major issues other than some mild discomfort I think at times and now and they’ve gotten a little larger/ more dense (I would say at least a cup size ) due to age and taking HRT. I got them originally after I had my children and nursed and was barely size B anymore. Now I’m going to get a couple consults to have them removed and possibly add my own tissue / fat grafts as I don’t want to be redoing this at age 70-80. (I’m 55 now). I just want to feel better. I’ve also heard there’s no guarantee that the brain fog will go away but hopefully will be improved !
Has anyone had autoimmune issues/ disease resolve after removing saline breast implants ?

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@slkanowitz

I am also in this camp. Breast implants for 20 years, now 7 autoimmune diseases and had them removed in 1994 when I first diagnosed with lupus. Unfortunately I saw no improvement in the lupus symptoms and continued to develop more And more autoimmune diseases. I am in similar shape to rottenweather, which is tragic for us both. It’s the Silicone envelope that holds the saline that’s the culprit. It stimulates the immune system into overdrive producing antibodies that destroy your own tissues. NO ONE should get breast implants for any reason in my opinion. They have destroyed the health of so many women its tragic yet it’s a booming industry for the plastic surgeons who lie to patients that they are perfectly safe! If you have implants, get them out. A foreign body like these don’t belong in your body!

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@rottenweather123

I had written a long well thought out response & lost it all. Extremely frustrating. Bottom line: breast implants are ticking time bombs. I had 3 sets in 40 years. DON'T DO IT. And don't do autologous fat implants either. Remove your implants asap. Breast Implants must be outlawed. The entire encapsulation must be removed & surrounding tissues as well, & everything biopsied. My biopsy showed macrophages everywhere, inflammatory responses, microscopic silicone particles had leaked out, implants had mold inside, autoimmune evidence everywhere. My Exhusband pressured me to get them. I hated them. Unfortunately none of my dozens of autoimmune diseases (many are extremely rare) can be treated at all due to the fact that the treatments are neurotoxic that destroy critical parts of my brain as I have also been diagnosed with Lewy Body Dementia, a very complicated form of dementia, no treatment, no cure, fatal. It's a living hell, & not just a memory issue, but extremely painful. As well I have Parkinsonism, Multiple Sclerosis, Polymyositis, too much many diseases to write out here. Contact me privately if you want more information or just want to talk. I have MCTD as well as dozens of other autoimmune diseases, spinal degeneration, degenerative cervical myelopathy, Cervical Tarlov Cysts, severe lumbar stenosis, 3 broken vertebrae, spondylitis, degenerative disc disease, too much to write out. I've been in a wheelchair for over 3 years due to massive demyelination & muscle atrophy and everything is progressive. My body has been destroyed. I'm 72 & looking forward to death.

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If you haven’t already you should submit a product complaint. Include as much info as possible. You can do this more then once
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/index.cfm

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@dlydailyhope

Agree that saline implants are a serious problem due to the silicone liners. My implants ruptured at some point (each at different times times) which exposes you to everything inside the implant liners. I had mine removed and not replace and no fat transfer or lift. I am 55 and glad I got them removed (had them for 22 years and all sorts of health issues, autoimmune Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, severe spinal stenosis/degenerative disc disease, etc.).

My brain fog and low grade fevers improved days after explant surgery and my eyes stopped being irritated (felt like they had gravel in them).

My recommendation also is for young women not to ever get them, especially before having children since nursing could be a problem and silicone can leach into breast milk. They are uncomfortable to sleep in for stomach sleepers, can rupture, stretch skin permanently and leaves scars going in and coming out. Not worth the health issues.

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Were you taking any special supplements to detox post explant ?

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@gracie2020

DeeDee, please let's all know how your doing after your procedure. Sending positive vibes.

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Thank you !

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@slkanowitz

I am also in this camp. Breast implants for 20 years, now 7 autoimmune diseases and had them removed in 1994 when I first diagnosed with lupus. Unfortunately I saw no improvement in the lupus symptoms and continued to develop more And more autoimmune diseases. I am in similar shape to rottenweather, which is tragic for us both. It’s the Silicone envelope that holds the saline that’s the culprit. It stimulates the immune system into overdrive producing antibodies that destroy your own tissues. NO ONE should get breast implants for any reason in my opinion. They have destroyed the health of so many women its tragic yet it’s a booming industry for the plastic surgeons who lie to patients that they are perfectly safe! If you have implants, get them out. A foreign body like these don’t belong in your body!

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A friend of mine has silicone implants and I asked her recently if she’s having issues and she said she’s not. So strange how some people can react so differently. I think it’s those that are predisposed to autoimmune disorders that suffer. I think it may run in my family but not 100% sure as my mom and grandmother were never tested but I know my grandma always complained of IBS. My cousin on that side of family also tested positive for autoimmune

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@syltejr

Were you taking any special supplements to detox post explant ?

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@syltejr
Hi, Deedee.

Read the following information. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/how-to-detox-your-body

I followed many of the suggestions. I also have been taking inositol as a supplement.

Your body needs to heal itself and it will take time but so worth it.

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@rottenweather123

I had written a long well thought out response & lost it all. Extremely frustrating. Bottom line: breast implants are ticking time bombs. I had 3 sets in 40 years. DON'T DO IT. And don't do autologous fat implants either. Remove your implants asap. Breast Implants must be outlawed. The entire encapsulation must be removed & surrounding tissues as well, & everything biopsied. My biopsy showed macrophages everywhere, inflammatory responses, microscopic silicone particles had leaked out, implants had mold inside, autoimmune evidence everywhere. My Exhusband pressured me to get them. I hated them. Unfortunately none of my dozens of autoimmune diseases (many are extremely rare) can be treated at all due to the fact that the treatments are neurotoxic that destroy critical parts of my brain as I have also been diagnosed with Lewy Body Dementia, a very complicated form of dementia, no treatment, no cure, fatal. It's a living hell, & not just a memory issue, but extremely painful. As well I have Parkinsonism, Multiple Sclerosis, Polymyositis, too much many diseases to write out here. Contact me privately if you want more information or just want to talk. I have MCTD as well as dozens of other autoimmune diseases, spinal degeneration, degenerative cervical myelopathy, Cervical Tarlov Cysts, severe lumbar stenosis, 3 broken vertebrae, spondylitis, degenerative disc disease, too much to write out. I've been in a wheelchair for over 3 years due to massive demyelination & muscle atrophy and everything is progressive. My body has been destroyed. I'm 72 & looking forward to death.

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I would like to be able to send you a personal message and ask you some questions

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I agree that those predisposed to AI disorders genetically are most likely to have complications from implants. Our immune systems don’t like foreign bodies. It’s also typically a delayed reaction. 7 years on average, before disease develops or when implants rupture and leak silicone into the surrounding tissue. Even when explanted the silicone can’t always be removed 100%. This can show up on breast ultrasound or MRI. That residual silicone can be why some don’t improve after explanation. This happened in my case with both implants ruptured and globs of silicone visible on ultrasound years later. I had mine removed in 1994 and am still developing new AI disorders ( vasculitis and colitis) just this year.

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@slkanowitz

I agree that those predisposed to AI disorders genetically are most likely to have complications from implants. Our immune systems don’t like foreign bodies. It’s also typically a delayed reaction. 7 years on average, before disease develops or when implants rupture and leak silicone into the surrounding tissue. Even when explanted the silicone can’t always be removed 100%. This can show up on breast ultrasound or MRI. That residual silicone can be why some don’t improve after explanation. This happened in my case with both implants ruptured and globs of silicone visible on ultrasound years later. I had mine removed in 1994 and am still developing new AI disorders ( vasculitis and colitis) just this year.

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Very sorry. Did you report the rupture to fda ? See link above. Keep reporting more then once if you have more issues

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@mawmaws

I would like to be able to send you a personal message and ask you some questions

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Sure

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