I live in upstate New York in a two-story home. My husband has a variety of physical ailments that will eventually make stairs impossible, and I've got a deep history of dementia in the family. I'm a planner by nature, while my husband likes to live life as it comes. We're both retired, and financially comfortable enough to have choices, but at some risk of outliving our resources.
Early last summer, we finally realized that we are not going to be able to age in place to the end -- our home is just not physically conducive to this. So I plunged in.
It's important to realize that every option has risks and opportunities. You can't get rid of the risks, although you can pick your exposure and try to make them as unlikely as you can. And by setting your priorities, you can make the best of your opportunities.
So, here's where we landed:
-- I've been gradually giving stuff away through our local community Buy Nothing FB page. It started with practical items we haven't used in years, or that I rediscovered by scouring the entire house to look at shelves, cabinets, closets, etc that I haven't been paying attention to. (Wow, a lot of things I'd forgotten we owned.) Eventually moved into sentimental stuff, like most of my father's sculptures. It helped to do this gradually, which let me get my head around downsizing.
-- Eventually, I decided to set up a room for stuff to keep. The goal was to make it all visible on (inexpensive plastic) shelves and also use the room very practically as a pantry, place to sort laundry, a functioning location that I was in and out of a lot. This helped me get rid of more stuff, as I realized what things I thought I would keep weren't actually going to be needed or wanted if we moved. Still working on this, because it will eventually help me decide how much storage we will actually need. This is helping me actually live in a smaller footprint right now.
-- I did not touch my husband's collections. However, over time, as he watched me do this, he started conversations about what to do with the collections that are meaningful to him. We've agreed that offsite storage is an option if he hasn't downsized his possessions by the time we move, but that he is going to give it his best shot.
-- I've been an executor twice, and yup, most of it gets thrown out in the end. It helped me start looking at our possessions through that lens. If no one is going to want it when we are gone, then why not keep only the items that will be useful, or that we cherish because we see or touch it every day?
-- One of my to-do's is going to be creating a collage (using a poster frame) of meaningful photos that could move from retirement home to assisted living to nursing home, if necessary. Most of the remaining pictures will be thrown away.
-- The more places we visited, and the more research I did, the more we refined what we were looking for. What we first thought we were going to want evolved based on experience. We spoke with our local Office of the Aging, we tried to find friends who had friends who had experience with places, we figured out that the vibe and resident culture really mattered to us, we started to understand what turned us off and turned us on. I got to know all the sales people, and compared all the contracts, and ultimately requested a copy of the resident's manual (when they say they allow pets, for example, what exactly does that mean you can/can't/must do if you have a pet, and what kind of pets?).
-- We looked into options that would give us quality of life for as long as we can, would eliminate the need to personally hire-and-fire aids or nurses (because we've eventually not going to be capable of doing that, and we wouldn't enjoy it anyway), and would make this most likely to be our last major move. This means a community with onsite cottage homes, apartments, assisted living, memory care, nursing home. It exposes us to one big financial risk, which is bankruptcy or sale of the community to someone who runs it into the ground, so we've been very picky. It also exposes us to one big social/psychological/emotional risk, which is an incompatible community, so we've been very picky there, too. It does give us the opportunity to age in a community where we can make new friends, and where one of us can move to a higher level of care and be easily visited by the other one. It also gives us lots of independence in a cottage and our own space for as long as we can make that work.
-- We're waitlisted now for three options in that community. The one we would prefer has a 3-4 year expected wait time, while the two others have shorter times, in case we need to move sooner than we hope to have to.
-- I'll be interviewing a couple of move managers and a couple of real estate agents this winter or spring, just to get a handle on possible costs, and how much work we want to do ourselves (probably not much, because neither of us are physically able to do a lot of that any more, and we don't have kids).
Basically, I turned it into a project, and by doing that, I got increasingly comfortable with the whole idea. It started out traumatizing, and now I'm actually kind of looking forward to it.
This is kind of an extreme. (It's one step short of an actual, legally chartered CCRC, which we considered but eventually rejected.) We could much more easily just sold the house and moved into an apartment somewhere, which is a perfectly viable way to go. Just wasn't our choice.
Kudos for your proactive, realistic action to an inevitable situation… we will never stop aging and need to accept our need for physical care as we age. Better to make our choice and move before a crisis or death that will force us to make decisions out of need.
My husband and I made similar choices several years ago and are very happy. As a married woman turning 80 this year, I believe all you 60+ retirees should start this “last move” process now. You have many years to enjoy the unending activities while never worrying about all the “what ifs” that aging brings to mind. Think about it, talk about it, then make good choices for your future!
I like your approach. It is methodical, progressive, evolutionary, and instructive. Nice!
I would nail down the 'sale and eventual bankruptcy' problem, and maybe even encourage the other denizens to do so retroactively if it isn't concretely and comprehensively (as in, 'hire a lawyer') spelled out in the contract. You two must be protected from rapacious natures, even if it's just business.
I would love to say it is possible to nail down the sale and eventual bankruptcy problem, but it's tricky. Any enterprise can be well-managed today and badly managed in the future.
In the case of legal CCRCs (which are something of a hybrid residential complex/insurance company), the institution assumes actuarial risk and does so for a fairly small risk pool -- they guarantee lower costs for higher levels of care to qualifying residents based on their estimate that overall, residents who have more needs will be balanced by those who have lesser needs. There is really no way for a resident to know whether they've gotten that calculation systematically wrong until it's too late. In our case, we would probably not have qualified in any case because my husband has a stroke in his medical history, although I don't know that for sure.
We looked at similar places with the same selections of co-located care levels but without the insurance component -- these are not regulated as CCRCs. We applied a three-layer financial screen here. First, we focused on locations run as non-profits that had a long history in the region and that we deemed unlikely to be available for purchase by for-profit or private equity buyers. Second, we gave some thought to each of their business models, and whether those models comfortably funded their operating costs and gave them access to necessary capital. Finally, we asked for their most recent financial statements and tax filings, and had a friend with a deep financial background review them for red flags.
None of this, of course, is absolute protection, especially if we may live there for a couple of decades. As with any investment -- and from a certain perspective, this is an investment -- the past and the present are not necessarily indicative of the future. But it was the best we could do if we wanted to put roots down into a campus with all the possible levels of future care we might need.
So worrisome. Will probably need to have some of 'my' collectibles (most from my mom, with a few stories about the items) reviewed for value (I hope some are museum-worthy, but...). Such a pain! But I was the kid who accepted the handed-down, and my kid couldn't care less. Such is life.
So worrisome. Will probably need to have some of 'my' collectibles (most from my mom, with a few stories about the items) reviewed for value (I hope some are museum-worthy, but...). Such a pain! But I was the kid who accepted the handed-down, and my kid couldn't care less. Such is life.
After I asked my kids, I reached out to a few cousins, nieces and nephews - it turns out some of their parents weren't savers, and they were thrilled to have a few family things. And I included the stories that went along.
Later this spring, I will be breaking open a sealed box of heirloom tea cups and saucers for some friends who repurpose them into fairy gardens for assisted living and nursing home residents - they will offer joy again for at least a while!
Howdy! While I think there are pros to moving to a retirement community with meals, activities and care, I’m also thinking that doing so may actually decrease your quality of living some. I am currently 57 and still have parents living in their 80’s now. One set lives independently in their own large home still and one set lives in a CCRC community. I am noticing that the parents living independently seem happier, more free, they still have to meal plan, shop for food and cook the food…they do have a cleaning service, anyway, and they love their 4,500 sq foot home. The other set is living in a 900 sq foot apartment with one meal a day for $8,900 per month. They had to get rid of almost everything they owned and there are some pluses, I guess, in that they are cared for “until the end”, but are they truly happy and living their best life? They don’t seem very happy, with friends passing way, not sure of meals, the quality, uncertain at times of the future of their CCRC community and the care they may need. It’s not an easy decision or process. I’m hoping to stay in my home, independent until the end…I’m hoping that by staying active, cleaning my own house, gardening, making meals, walking daily and living in a community with all ages of people helps me stay young at heart and in body, mind and spirit. To walk in the park and see young ones skipping, playing, riding their bikes, trick or treaters, those small moments bring joy, hope, the future. I do think all ages Cohousing is also a wonderful model for intentional living…the Blue Zone way. I’m hoping that by the time I’m 80+, we can figure out a way to live in community with all ages, to share resources, gifts, talents and to feel part of the fabric of life, community, friends that are like family, church helps a lot too! But to answer your question directly: you can hire a service to help you downsize, pack up, donate to the White Dove or Goodwill. Good luck to us all out there! Mia 🙂
Howdy! While I think there are pros to moving to a retirement community with meals, activities and care, I’m also thinking that doing so may actually decrease your quality of living some. I am currently 57 and still have parents living in their 80’s now. One set lives independently in their own large home still and one set lives in a CCRC community. I am noticing that the parents living independently seem happier, more free, they still have to meal plan, shop for food and cook the food…they do have a cleaning service, anyway, and they love their 4,500 sq foot home. The other set is living in a 900 sq foot apartment with one meal a day for $8,900 per month. They had to get rid of almost everything they owned and there are some pluses, I guess, in that they are cared for “until the end”, but are they truly happy and living their best life? They don’t seem very happy, with friends passing way, not sure of meals, the quality, uncertain at times of the future of their CCRC community and the care they may need. It’s not an easy decision or process. I’m hoping to stay in my home, independent until the end…I’m hoping that by staying active, cleaning my own house, gardening, making meals, walking daily and living in a community with all ages of people helps me stay young at heart and in body, mind and spirit. To walk in the park and see young ones skipping, playing, riding their bikes, trick or treaters, those small moments bring joy, hope, the future. I do think all ages Cohousing is also a wonderful model for intentional living…the Blue Zone way. I’m hoping that by the time I’m 80+, we can figure out a way to live in community with all ages, to share resources, gifts, talents and to feel part of the fabric of life, community, friends that are like family, church helps a lot too! But to answer your question directly: you can hire a service to help you downsize, pack up, donate to the White Dove or Goodwill. Good luck to us all out there! Mia 🙂
I recall listening to a gerontologist on a radio talk show. One thing she said stuck with me: STOP paying for things you think will make your life EASIER!!
Whether services or implements, the more you rely on ease-of-living methods and items, the more ground you lose toward your end. The more autonomy you retain and insist upon, the more motivated you are to do things for yourself, and the more robust and strong you keep your body as a result of doing all these things (better balance, more core strength, stronger grip, and a stronger cardiovascular system), the longer you will enjoy life, be switched-on, see things, enjoy the outdoors, and retain your cognitive function.
My 95 year old dad (will be in three weeks) just passed his automotive licensing medical. He passed his driver's test at 94 last year, and I hope he does again. Sadly, only five months ago he wanted assisted death and had started the paperwork. Reason? He had several falls, although they were related to low sodium. He had fractured a vertebra and was in real pain, but also immobilized...or all but. He felt his life was over. Now, with his mental toughness, and his ability to claw himself back up the muddy slope, he is walking again, and about to have a driver's exam so he can get to his beloved Spanish classes (he has been fluent all his adult life, but enjoys the friendships of those who have the intellectual drive to take up a language as they age), and also his gospel singing.
I recall listening to a gerontologist on a radio talk show. One thing she said stuck with me: STOP paying for things you think will make your life EASIER!!
Whether services or implements, the more you rely on ease-of-living methods and items, the more ground you lose toward your end. The more autonomy you retain and insist upon, the more motivated you are to do things for yourself, and the more robust and strong you keep your body as a result of doing all these things (better balance, more core strength, stronger grip, and a stronger cardiovascular system), the longer you will enjoy life, be switched-on, see things, enjoy the outdoors, and retain your cognitive function.
My 95 year old dad (will be in three weeks) just passed his automotive licensing medical. He passed his driver's test at 94 last year, and I hope he does again. Sadly, only five months ago he wanted assisted death and had started the paperwork. Reason? He had several falls, although they were related to low sodium. He had fractured a vertebra and was in real pain, but also immobilized...or all but. He felt his life was over. Now, with his mental toughness, and his ability to claw himself back up the muddy slope, he is walking again, and about to have a driver's exam so he can get to his beloved Spanish classes (he has been fluent all his adult life, but enjoys the friendships of those who have the intellectual drive to take up a language as they age), and also his gospel singing.
You mentioned your dad had low sodium. How did they turn it around? Did he take medication? This just happened to my husband and am wondering what the options are.
Howdy! While I think there are pros to moving to a retirement community with meals, activities and care, I’m also thinking that doing so may actually decrease your quality of living some. I am currently 57 and still have parents living in their 80’s now. One set lives independently in their own large home still and one set lives in a CCRC community. I am noticing that the parents living independently seem happier, more free, they still have to meal plan, shop for food and cook the food…they do have a cleaning service, anyway, and they love their 4,500 sq foot home. The other set is living in a 900 sq foot apartment with one meal a day for $8,900 per month. They had to get rid of almost everything they owned and there are some pluses, I guess, in that they are cared for “until the end”, but are they truly happy and living their best life? They don’t seem very happy, with friends passing way, not sure of meals, the quality, uncertain at times of the future of their CCRC community and the care they may need. It’s not an easy decision or process. I’m hoping to stay in my home, independent until the end…I’m hoping that by staying active, cleaning my own house, gardening, making meals, walking daily and living in a community with all ages of people helps me stay young at heart and in body, mind and spirit. To walk in the park and see young ones skipping, playing, riding their bikes, trick or treaters, those small moments bring joy, hope, the future. I do think all ages Cohousing is also a wonderful model for intentional living…the Blue Zone way. I’m hoping that by the time I’m 80+, we can figure out a way to live in community with all ages, to share resources, gifts, talents and to feel part of the fabric of life, community, friends that are like family, church helps a lot too! But to answer your question directly: you can hire a service to help you downsize, pack up, donate to the White Dove or Goodwill. Good luck to us all out there! Mia 🙂
Love the comparison between the choices made by your two parents. In a way, we're splitting the baby -- we're moving to a facility (not a CCRC) where the different levels of care are co-owned and co-located on a single campus, but we're moving to a cottage/patio home (not an apartment) where we can keep our current lifestyle. I'm assuming that your two sets of parents made the choices they did for their own separate reasons, and that this needs to be factored in when observing the results.
If you have not found this book, you might want to chase it down: https://www.aarp.org/entertainment/books/bookstore/home-family-caregiving/info-2019/disrupting-the-status-quo-of-senior-living.html. It's surprisingly expensive in hard copy, even used, so you might want to see if your public library has it available. (Even if your library does not have it, they may be willing to borrow it for you from another in-state or out-of-state library for a small fee, so you might want to ask about that option.) Or get it as an e-book.
Nice plan nicely related!
Kudos for your proactive, realistic action to an inevitable situation… we will never stop aging and need to accept our need for physical care as we age. Better to make our choice and move before a crisis or death that will force us to make decisions out of need.
My husband and I made similar choices several years ago and are very happy. As a married woman turning 80 this year, I believe all you 60+ retirees should start this “last move” process now. You have many years to enjoy the unending activities while never worrying about all the “what ifs” that aging brings to mind. Think about it, talk about it, then make good choices for your future!
I would love to say it is possible to nail down the sale and eventual bankruptcy problem, but it's tricky. Any enterprise can be well-managed today and badly managed in the future.
In the case of legal CCRCs (which are something of a hybrid residential complex/insurance company), the institution assumes actuarial risk and does so for a fairly small risk pool -- they guarantee lower costs for higher levels of care to qualifying residents based on their estimate that overall, residents who have more needs will be balanced by those who have lesser needs. There is really no way for a resident to know whether they've gotten that calculation systematically wrong until it's too late. In our case, we would probably not have qualified in any case because my husband has a stroke in his medical history, although I don't know that for sure.
We looked at similar places with the same selections of co-located care levels but without the insurance component -- these are not regulated as CCRCs. We applied a three-layer financial screen here. First, we focused on locations run as non-profits that had a long history in the region and that we deemed unlikely to be available for purchase by for-profit or private equity buyers. Second, we gave some thought to each of their business models, and whether those models comfortably funded their operating costs and gave them access to necessary capital. Finally, we asked for their most recent financial statements and tax filings, and had a friend with a deep financial background review them for red flags.
None of this, of course, is absolute protection, especially if we may live there for a couple of decades. As with any investment -- and from a certain perspective, this is an investment -- the past and the present are not necessarily indicative of the future. But it was the best we could do if we wanted to put roots down into a campus with all the possible levels of future care we might need.
So worrisome. Will probably need to have some of 'my' collectibles (most from my mom, with a few stories about the items) reviewed for value (I hope some are museum-worthy, but...). Such a pain! But I was the kid who accepted the handed-down, and my kid couldn't care less. Such is life.
After I asked my kids, I reached out to a few cousins, nieces and nephews - it turns out some of their parents weren't savers, and they were thrilled to have a few family things. And I included the stories that went along.
Later this spring, I will be breaking open a sealed box of heirloom tea cups and saucers for some friends who repurpose them into fairy gardens for assisted living and nursing home residents - they will offer joy again for at least a while!
Howdy! While I think there are pros to moving to a retirement community with meals, activities and care, I’m also thinking that doing so may actually decrease your quality of living some. I am currently 57 and still have parents living in their 80’s now. One set lives independently in their own large home still and one set lives in a CCRC community. I am noticing that the parents living independently seem happier, more free, they still have to meal plan, shop for food and cook the food…they do have a cleaning service, anyway, and they love their 4,500 sq foot home. The other set is living in a 900 sq foot apartment with one meal a day for $8,900 per month. They had to get rid of almost everything they owned and there are some pluses, I guess, in that they are cared for “until the end”, but are they truly happy and living their best life? They don’t seem very happy, with friends passing way, not sure of meals, the quality, uncertain at times of the future of their CCRC community and the care they may need. It’s not an easy decision or process. I’m hoping to stay in my home, independent until the end…I’m hoping that by staying active, cleaning my own house, gardening, making meals, walking daily and living in a community with all ages of people helps me stay young at heart and in body, mind and spirit. To walk in the park and see young ones skipping, playing, riding their bikes, trick or treaters, those small moments bring joy, hope, the future. I do think all ages Cohousing is also a wonderful model for intentional living…the Blue Zone way. I’m hoping that by the time I’m 80+, we can figure out a way to live in community with all ages, to share resources, gifts, talents and to feel part of the fabric of life, community, friends that are like family, church helps a lot too! But to answer your question directly: you can hire a service to help you downsize, pack up, donate to the White Dove or Goodwill. Good luck to us all out there! Mia 🙂
I recall listening to a gerontologist on a radio talk show. One thing she said stuck with me: STOP paying for things you think will make your life EASIER!!
Whether services or implements, the more you rely on ease-of-living methods and items, the more ground you lose toward your end. The more autonomy you retain and insist upon, the more motivated you are to do things for yourself, and the more robust and strong you keep your body as a result of doing all these things (better balance, more core strength, stronger grip, and a stronger cardiovascular system), the longer you will enjoy life, be switched-on, see things, enjoy the outdoors, and retain your cognitive function.
My 95 year old dad (will be in three weeks) just passed his automotive licensing medical. He passed his driver's test at 94 last year, and I hope he does again. Sadly, only five months ago he wanted assisted death and had started the paperwork. Reason? He had several falls, although they were related to low sodium. He had fractured a vertebra and was in real pain, but also immobilized...or all but. He felt his life was over. Now, with his mental toughness, and his ability to claw himself back up the muddy slope, he is walking again, and about to have a driver's exam so he can get to his beloved Spanish classes (he has been fluent all his adult life, but enjoys the friendships of those who have the intellectual drive to take up a language as they age), and also his gospel singing.
god bless him
You mentioned your dad had low sodium. How did they turn it around? Did he take medication? This just happened to my husband and am wondering what the options are.
Love the comparison between the choices made by your two parents. In a way, we're splitting the baby -- we're moving to a facility (not a CCRC) where the different levels of care are co-owned and co-located on a single campus, but we're moving to a cottage/patio home (not an apartment) where we can keep our current lifestyle. I'm assuming that your two sets of parents made the choices they did for their own separate reasons, and that this needs to be factored in when observing the results.
If you have not found this book, you might want to chase it down: https://www.aarp.org/entertainment/books/bookstore/home-family-caregiving/info-2019/disrupting-the-status-quo-of-senior-living.html. It's surprisingly expensive in hard copy, even used, so you might want to see if your public library has it available. (Even if your library does not have it, they may be willing to borrow it for you from another in-state or out-of-state library for a small fee, so you might want to ask about that option.) Or get it as an e-book.