This program helping me recover

Posted by annie481 @annie481, Aug 20, 2023

I found this website and the program surely seems to be helping me. I have been following the advice on this page for about 3 weeks now.
Dr. Barbara Johnson Reversing Long Covid -- do a google search with those terms since I can't add a web address.
Of course I still have symptoms but I am much improved over what I was in June. I still have brain fog, tremors in head and upper body, headaches at times, heat bothers me, stomach pain if I eat a lot at one time especially after 4pm. I still can't do my morning walk more than about 3-4 minutes without my heart rate going up to 135 from about 65 resting rate.
In June I couldn't be on my feet more than about 30 minutes in the house and needed to lay down for an hour or two because I was totally exhausted and weak. I am now able to be on my feet around the house or shopping --(moving slowly though) for about 3 hours before I become weak and need to lay down.
The only really frustrating symptom is the weakness that comes on when I try to walk any distance. I'm still not able to do it when back in the spring I was walking about 45-60 min a day. However I found that exercise laying down or sitting is tolerable within limits -- such as a recumbent bike, chair exercises, etc.
Hope this helps someone.

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@jeffrey57

What are the hurdles you need to pass to get into the Mayo Long Covid Treatment plan? I have severe insomnia due to body tremors at point of falling asleep. I’m just starting down doctoring steps. Only thing that helps me get 4 hours sleep in Ambien. Thanks.

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Good question you asked there about how to get into the Long Covid Treatment Plan at Mayo. I’m going on 3 years without taste or smell. I need help as well! I also don’t have the energy I had 2 years ago, which is not that long ago to be feeling the way I do at times. I want to ask you if you’ve had your Thyroid labs run? You may have hypo or hyperthyroidism and that could be keeping you up at night. I too get body tremors, especially if I’m over tired. I take Synthroid for my hypothyroidism and recently started taking a lower dose and I do feel better. It’s a “let’s try this and see if this works” type of thing and I like many are getting sick of it! I just want to be normal again.

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@dloos

This thread has been going for awhile. It seems to me that the various therapies are really not that helpful. It gives us the illusion that we are at least doing something to get well.
Has anyone really recovered, or are you just resigned to your new normal? Or perhaps just over time your body has healed on some symptoms?
I speak as one who has suffered for three years while going to a long Covid clinic and all sorts of other doctors and therapists. I’ve tried just about everything with no significant improvement. Each new thing I try gives me hope, and then let’s me down.
I operate at maybe 20% of my old normal. It sucks and I am so sick of it.

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I agree and sympathize with you. Pacing is the only thing that has worked for me, and I had to retire. Working and pacing don't seem to work together, so there seems to be no answers for those who must continue working.
Too many therapies are based on the idea that if we just ignore our symptoms and push through our difficulties, we will get better. I have struggled with this for two years and know that is not true. I think the best that anyone can do now is manage the symptoms and that can lead to a better quality of life.
I am feeling better now because I am no longer using more energy than I have. I am no longer pushing myself so hard that I end up in bed for two days. I am engaging in gentle exercise to try to reduce some symptoms. Unfortunately, I still have to spend much of my time in a recliner and am unable to walk much. My quality of life is better, and I hope that it will continue to improve, but it is going to be a long, hard journey.
Many doctors deny that this illness has a physiological component and that leads them to take our symptoms less seriously. We need to hear the truth which is what can we really expect to happen from these therapies and what we cannot. I do share your frustration and hope that some effective therapies might be developed soon.

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@jeffrey57

What are the hurdles you need to pass to get into the Mayo Long Covid Treatment plan? I have severe insomnia due to body tremors at point of falling asleep. I’m just starting down doctoring steps. Only thing that helps me get 4 hours sleep in Ambien. Thanks.

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Make sure your insurance will cover a visit. I applied only to be quickly rejected because my out-of-network insurance won't kick in. Yes, the Mayo people are helpful and respond quickly, but insurance can be a real stumbling block

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@janeaddams

@dloos thanks for your input which is helpful. I’m two years in, currently a patient at NWMH LC clinic, SRAL for cognitive rehab, etc. and very little if any improvement. I think FOMO drives my efforts to do or try the next “cure”… and now that LC “treatment” is becoming big business, there’s a profit motive at work. However, reliable research is still new and results haven’r yet translated to effective treatments as far as I can tell. Here’s hoping for better news … soon!

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New to the forum. I had undiagnosed Lyme for 5 years and have now suffered Post Lyme Syndrome fir 10 years. Research indicates it is very similar to Long Covid. One Dr prescribed Mestinon for brain fog. It worked immediately to relieve it. Cognition is not as pre Lyme but incredible improvement. Good luck.
Still suffering from extreme fatigue. Any suggestions welcome.

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@lkirnbauer

Good question you asked there about how to get into the Long Covid Treatment Plan at Mayo. I’m going on 3 years without taste or smell. I need help as well! I also don’t have the energy I had 2 years ago, which is not that long ago to be feeling the way I do at times. I want to ask you if you’ve had your Thyroid labs run? You may have hypo or hyperthyroidism and that could be keeping you up at night. I too get body tremors, especially if I’m over tired. I take Synthroid for my hypothyroidism and recently started taking a lower dose and I do feel better. It’s a “let’s try this and see if this works” type of thing and I like many are getting sick of it! I just want to be normal again.

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If you have continued anosmia, I’d recommend a stellate ganglion block. I’ve spoken to 2 LC docs who specialize in SGB, and it works best for loss of taste snd smell.

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@granitegirl1

If you have continued anosmia, I’d recommend a stellate ganglion block. I’ve spoken to 2 LC docs who specialize in SGB, and it works best for loss of taste snd smell.

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Thank you for your feedback, but I’ve already had 7 Stellate Ganglion Block injections and they have not brought back my taste or smell. What the last injection did for me was take my PTSD somewhat away, where I’m not jittery or have involuntary movements any longer. That is also a symptom of Long Covid, but I’m still only getting sweet, salty, bitter on my tongue. No flavors of anything for over 2 years now. I live in the Chicago area and go to Northwestern’s Pain Management Clinic. Thank you again for your suggestion. I do appreciate it.

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Did the same anesthesiologist inject you?

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@michael239

I agree and sympathize with you. Pacing is the only thing that has worked for me, and I had to retire. Working and pacing don't seem to work together, so there seems to be no answers for those who must continue working.
Too many therapies are based on the idea that if we just ignore our symptoms and push through our difficulties, we will get better. I have struggled with this for two years and know that is not true. I think the best that anyone can do now is manage the symptoms and that can lead to a better quality of life.
I am feeling better now because I am no longer using more energy than I have. I am no longer pushing myself so hard that I end up in bed for two days. I am engaging in gentle exercise to try to reduce some symptoms. Unfortunately, I still have to spend much of my time in a recliner and am unable to walk much. My quality of life is better, and I hope that it will continue to improve, but it is going to be a long, hard journey.
Many doctors deny that this illness has a physiological component and that leads them to take our symptoms less seriously. We need to hear the truth which is what can we really expect to happen from these therapies and what we cannot. I do share your frustration and hope that some effective therapies might be developed soon.

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I think you nailed it. Any person, website, institution or organization that promises a cure is preying on our desperation. NO ONE understands what actually causes the symptoms of Long Covid or ME/CFS or Long Lyme or any of the post-infectious chronic illnesses, and without that knowledge, no one can guarantee that any sort of therapy will make any difference. I agree that pacing is the best way to get through each day without making our bodies worse, and the goal is to maintain a stable baseline, not be cured. Sending you the strength to continue your own journey and find peace and joy where you can.

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@athenaatkins

I think you nailed it. Any person, website, institution or organization that promises a cure is preying on our desperation. NO ONE understands what actually causes the symptoms of Long Covid or ME/CFS or Long Lyme or any of the post-infectious chronic illnesses, and without that knowledge, no one can guarantee that any sort of therapy will make any difference. I agree that pacing is the best way to get through each day without making our bodies worse, and the goal is to maintain a stable baseline, not be cured. Sending you the strength to continue your own journey and find peace and joy where you can.

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I wish I had a “baseline” and did not feel I am still getting worse.
I can’t help but think about where I will be in a year.

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@dloos

I wish I had a “baseline” and did not feel I am still getting worse.
I can’t help but think about where I will be in a year.

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That sucks, and I’m sorry that you’re struggling to get to a baseline, but also don’t be under any misconceptions that I have figured it out yet either. I literally just about a week ago got the Visible Plus subscription and the Polar 360 arm band to help me pace better (because I hadn’t been able to do it in any meaningful way at all ever). It’s been a year of push/crash for me, and I finally realized that I literally cannot pace effectively on my own without some better and clearer guidance. As I am only a week into using it, it still remains to be seen whether where I am at _is_ my baseline, or if I can pace effectively for a while and actually get to a point where I can do a little more every day than I can now.

If you can afford it, I do recommend looking into Visible Plus with the arm band. It’s designed by people with Long Covid for people with Long Covid. It continuously tracks your heart rate to provide immediate feedback when you are overdoing it physically. What it has shown me is that I really can’t do much at all, and that I really need to rest more and do way less than I have been. Of course, heart rate isn’t everything, and emotional and cognitive exertion also contribute equally to our energy expenditure, but even getting one aspect under control should help.

Hang in there. We really are dealing with something that no one fully understands, and we need kindness and compassion for ourselves as we attempt to navigate our “new normal”.

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