Diet - Eggs or no eggs?

@zooblio6 I am 85 years young . My dad suffered from diabetes and in his early eighties was told . Don't eat this and don't eat that etc . His attitude was : " At my age I'm going to enjoy the food I loved all my life " and enjoy my remaining years . What are they trying to tell me -- I can live another few months if I change my diet at my age .
I love eggs and still eat them . THERE IS NO SOLID SCIENCE TO PROVE OTHERWISE , WHERE PROSTATE CANCER PREVENTION ETC . IS CONCERNED .
Take tomatoes as an example . Volumes of literature tells us tomatoes helps prevent cancer . From a very young age I ate bushels of eggs every year -- still do . THE RESULT - I HAVE PROSTATE CANCER .
In summary . Enjoy your eggs , red meat , chicken . milk etc . -- As they say " ALL IN MODERATION . And don't forget your French Wine and Single Malt Whiskey . I believe almost all physicians will tell you the same . Don't eliminate COMPLETELY something you enjoy and adds to your "Quality of Life "

Read an article yesterday that discussed how chicken extended the life of people on prostate cancer. Just a quick search shows this.

Specifically, Wang's team found that men in the study who ate about 3.5 servings of poultry a week either before or after being diagnosed with prostate cancer, or both before and after, have a 10% to 20% lower risk of prematurely dying from all causes.

I don’t listen to that, but I eat a lot more than 3 1/2 servings because I have it almost every day with a salad because I need the protein. All of us prostate cancer patients on drugs need extra protein, so that our bones can heal quicker and you can build muscles more easily with more protein.

Very true. Impossible burgers and Beyond patties are basically vegan junk food. The key is for your plant-based eating plan to be focused on whole foods, not processed foods, I believe. Fruits, vegetables, beans, nuts, tofu, etc. in their whole forms.

I think most "science" around food is guesswork - except for the obvious super processed stuff. Eggs are good, then they are bad, then good, then bad, now a superfood. I've always felt like "anything in moderation".

Just don't ask me to eat kale, that's a weed 😂.

I cook 90% of my meals, indulge 10% on restaurants, but mostly because it's not just a fraction of the cost and tastes way better but I know what goes into my food. My mom was a French trained chef so I got to really learn from the best so I put that to work.

I'm not a big fan of vegetables in general unless they're roasted or stewed in a soup, but I love kale because it bites back, so to speak (and you're right about it being a weed: I sow it once in my garden in May, and keep harvesting it until October).

"Read an article yesterday that discussed how chicken extended the life of people on prostate cancer. "

More precisely, the people who happen to eat more chicken are people who survive prostate cancer a bit longer in the aggregate.

That doesn't necessarily mean that *I'd* survive longer if I started eating chicken; more likely, it's related to some unknown third factor, like what you eat less of when you eat chicken, a gene that makes chicken more attractive to you and also improves your ability to fight cancer, or any number of other X factors.

Hey Jeff, 5 years ago I was bitten by a Lone star tick and became allergic to ALL red meat of any kind including products made with gelatin.
About a month later I had my robotic prostatectomy.
Since that time I have eaten more chicken -perhaps 5 night per week - than the entire Frank Perdue family! Only Bell and Evans Organic chicken and ground dark meat turkey from a farm near my house.
Also during that time my cholesterol zoomed to where I now need statins and my PSA went from undetectable to requiring salvage radiation and ADT.
So MY conclusion, based on 5 years of “research” has found that 100% of ALL men who ate NO red meat and only poultry 5 times per week had an increased chance of recurrent prostate cancer and elevated cholesterol levels.
Yet as preposterous and tongue in cheek as that sounds, it is, nevertheless, true, right?
It flies in the face of everything ever published on red meat, poultry, cancer and cholesterol.
I wonder if Dr Wang’s patients ate the kind of poultry I did or that Pathmark Manager’s Special chicken where a single breast weighs two and a half pounds or the drumstick is the size of a leg of lamb….all with NO hormones or antibiotics🤣🤣.
Anyway, I do happen to love chicken - always have - but it doesn’t seem to love me back. Best,
Phil

I think the moral of the story is this, and I'm equally as guilty: We'll all latch on to certain studies or opinions or even anecdotal testimony if we think it'll give us the slightest edge in this disease (or any other for that matter).

And guess what? That's totally OK. The mind is a very powerful thing and if you believe it, then who is to say it doesn't do any good. And even if it doesn't then it makes you happy.

Now I want a cheeseburger with real meat, real cheese, some raw onion....

I eat a lot of chicken as I mentioned, and my cholesterol is very low. I eat at least 10 portions of chicken a week.

My cholesterol without statins
HDL 60
LDL 68
Triglycerides 85

Well Jeff, DNA cannot be overlooked. My mother suffered from dementia in the last 12 yrs of her life of 98 years.
She had an arteriogram with contrast to see of her cognitive issues were due to low blood flow to the brain caused by atherosclerotic plaque, cholesterol, etc.
The vascular specialist told me she had the cerebral arteries of a 16 yr old - clear and smooth. He said it must be from her diet.
I never told him that my mother’s preferred dinner was Triscuits topped with dried Italian sausage and provolone cheese followed by about 10 cigarettes before bedtime.
Obviously something happened in transcription and I did not get that genetic sequence which protects against cancer and atherosclerosis.
But I did get the genetic traits for her big nose, poor vision and varicose veins…thanks MOM!!