Living life after treatment and surgery for Esophageal Cancer.

Posted by cbnova @cbnova, Feb 26, 2023

In December of 2020 I was diagnosed with stage 3 Esophageal Cancer. After chemo and radiation in February and March of 2021, I had surgery to remove the cancer in May of 2021. For me the surgery and recovery were probably the toughest part of the process. Not to say the chemo and radiation were easy, they were not but the changes the surgical part of treatments have changed my life from here on. Life after I got home from the hospital at first would not have been possible without a lot of help. Little things you take for granted such as showering or even walking about your home couldn't be accomplished without help. Those things got easier over time but it was a challenge. Getting use to having to sleep at a 30° angle because laying flat means anything in you new redesigned stomach comes up while you sleep(very uncomfortable and dangerous for your lungs). With the new design of your stomach food is also a bit of a challenge. They give you a list of foods you will probably be able to eat and a list of foods you probably should stay away from. With me I found after time that you have to try different foods and your body tells you quickly if you can or can not eat that again. You will also find portions you can tolerate will be much less than you were use to. This means you eat many more times per day. In the end it has been worth it for me because I have been cancer free on my 6 month scans so far . Another scan in a month which will be 2 years since surgery, I pray they continue to show me cancer free. If anyone has any questions on my journey so far please reach out. I have a friend who mentored me in my journey which helped tremendously for me. As I have said and believe since my journey started we are all" STRONGER TOGETHER "

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@colleenyoung

Hi @dave1958, how are you doing on proton beam therapy and chemo? What chemo regimen are you having?

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I'm doing good . 3 of 5 chemo done. I have 1 a week. Proton therapy 11 to go out of 26. Exactly the same weight that I started this journey. Not much in side effects. Nausea once in a while. That's about it. I know they should get worse. Take it as it comes. Suppose to have minimal invasive surgery a few months from now. Cancer has not spread. Lower esophagus removed along with healthy upper stomach. I will research this and make a decision. Right now it seems the survival rate is the same. With or without the surgery. Either way about 3 years. With surgery your quality of life is poor. Without you can have a couple of years of good life.

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I was just diagnosed with stage 2 esophageal cancer have not started anything; surgery was mentioned but don't think i will go that way

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I was not a candidate for surgery due to age 79 and being on high blood pressure meds.
Don

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I'm trusting My Jesus for help and praying for everyone that's facing the same pestilence from hell. its just surgery is too rough and not my thing.

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@doglover888

Hi there. It's been 2 years now. My appetite is better, although I never have the hunger growls anymore. Weird. I just have to assume I'm hungry. I'm afraid to eat something different because it could upset my stomach and will cause me to aspirate that night and my episodes are getting fewer. So I'm caught between a rock and hard place. I still can't gain any weight but hoping soon that will change. Down to 85 lbs now. Onwards and upwards!

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Someone else, who is never hungry. Since my gastric esophageal resection 2 years ago, there has been no sense of hunger. So it is up to me to make sure that there are regular small meals. That is the disadvantage. The advantage is there is no discomfort of hunger. Guess the stomach can’t shrink any smaller. Having been a vegetarian, since age 14, the ‘do not eat’ list has no real meaning to me…eat fibrous fruits and veggies. The only limitation is prior chemo induced changes…don’t like beans, which were once a protein mainstay, and most other foods. Have to make myself eat things no longer enjoyed to get proper nutrition. Weight hovers just 10 lbs less at 150 lbs. In the summer that drops a bit due to a lot of physical activity, which is the same as preop. No loss of strength.

Question: Have you had any resurgence of hunger feelings?

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@jmreed1958

I was just diagnosed with stage 2 esophageal cancer have not started anything; surgery was mentioned but don't think i will go that way

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Had surgery, followed by immunotherapy. Surgery couldn’t get margins, but three weeks after initiating immunotherapy, a CT indicated no tumor cells present. Subsequent CTs and MRIs, as well as a year of immunotherapy. Immunotherspy is a game changer. Feel the same as before diagnosis and as physically active, which is a lot.

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@hmoreno

Thank you so much for sharing your story 💕 my question my Dad has 74 and the gastro Doctor told him that he does not recommend him the surgery due to his age he referred him to the oncology he just got diagnosed today but reading your story give me hope.

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My surgery was at age 80, followed by immunotherapy. Always physically active, my activity level and strength are up to prediagnosis levels. Can not understand a doc saying don’t do the surgery at 74, unless one was frail. Yeah, it is not an easy deal. But pushing myself from the morning after, made a huge difference, compared to others. Walked multiple times every day postop, and the docs gave the okay for me to go home the morning of the fifth day post op. They said that thd key, though was willingness to push myself.

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@stever1

Colleen, thanks for reaching out. Yes. The dietitians at the hospital where I had my surgery were useless. I'm not using the word lightly either. They had me drink 5 Boosts per day as a criteria for discharge. Ugh! The dietitian that works with my oncology group offers the same generic advice that the Physicians did. Eat frequent small meals. Get at least 80 grams of protein per day. Brat diet for diarrhea. Stay away from sugar and limit fat. None of these people have had an gastroesophagectomy with pylormyoectomy. And, they just don't get it. If I don't eat carbs or fat, that leaves protein and at 4 calories per gram, I would need 500 grams of protein for 2,000 calories. I'm done with the dietitians that I have consulted with in the past.

I find that a protein bar in the morning will trigger dumping syndrome. A protein bar in the afternoon or evening is fine. Drinking fluids after a meal (even a small one) will trigger. Fried foods are a no no. Rich foods with butter and cream sometimes trigger it. then of course there is quantity. Anything over a 6-8 ounce portion will be a trigger. Besides being extremely distasteful, protein shakes are a trigger. If i drink one, and have an episode, I can't eat for 3 hours, so they don't do any good towards my goal of 2000 calories per day. Also, sweets after a meal are bad, but sweets alone I do fine with. I am still very much figuring all of this out. I really do not like eating, but force myself. I also don't like losing weight every day, so I eat what I can when I can and hope for the best.

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How are y’all doing now? Two years postop and post-immunotherapy I’m essentially about the same physically as post-diagnosis, except still feeling my way nutritionally. My experience with advice from nutritionists was essentially the same as yours. My advantage was having done doctoral studies in nutritional biochemistry in the 1970s. Found it best to ascertain what was needed on my own, based on the effects of chemo and surgery. Just found this Mayo Clinic site, which has been somewhat helpful. Example: Not the only one, who doesn't experience hunger anymore. That means being aware of time between eating and pushing myself to eat, even though no longer caring for about 85% of prediagnosis liked foods, as a consequence of chemo.

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@earnest

Hi EC. I can imagine, I used to eat like a horse and only weighed 160 lbs. at 6 feet 1 inch tall. I've lost 20 lbs because my appetite has changed dramatically. I can't eat and I can't stand this tube feeding either, but I want to live. I also have esophageal cancer. Not looking forward to this journey, but I betcha it beats the alternative! Just started my second week of treatments. Praying for us all.

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You WILL make it. Wanting to live and consequently pushing yourself is key. Through my, so far 2.5 yr journey with gastricesophageal cancer, the key has been willingness to push myself to live a lot longer. At this point, still learning to deal with the nutritional aspects. That is following doctoral studies in nutritionalbiochemistry. Handling the aspects of nutrition postdiagnosis is a new ball game. Having talked with folks in a similar predicament, the key to survival is willingness to push yourself. My docs have all said that that is why I survived and continue to do well.

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@stever1

Hi all. I'm new to the group. I have stage 4 Adenocarcinoma of stomach and esophagus. I went through 3 months of Chemo and an Esophageal-gastrectomy in January 2024. I'm losing weight and muscle mass. I get very generic advice from my care team. Eat frequent small meals. High calorie, high fat (good fat), don't mix food and drink, etc. I really need advice from someone who has lived through this process. someone who gets it. I like eating, but hate the feeling after I am done. Even small meals. I get hot, then weak, then diarrhea for 1/2 day to 2 days. I have to rest for 1-2 hours after I eat. It's like food sucks the energy right out of me. I call these "episodes". They don't happen every time, but today, it was 3 times after each attempted meal. I had a 20 gram protein bar for breakfast. episode. Felt like eating again at noon. I had some chicken and some mac and cheese. (small portion). episode. for dinner at 5, I had 1/2 of a side salad because my wife wanted to go out to eat. On the way home, episode. So frustrating. I'm down 30 pounds and have lost a lot of muscle mass. I'm 61 years old and feel like I'm 80 at times. I would love to know if my episodes sound familiar to anyone and how you avoid them. Thanks in advance. Steve R.

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Buongiorno Steve,

Fully understand, where you are at in your journey with this cancer. Hopefully, you are still hanging in there. My diagnosis was Sep 2022. Received radiation and chemo, followed by gastricesophageal resection and then immunotherapy. Past immunotherapy and basically at the same level physically as prediagnosis. The only difference has been dealing with the nutritional consequences of chemo mainly and with surgery secondarily. Now at age 82. Also lost weight, initially, from 160 down to 136. Now back up to roughly at 150. So oh yeah, that muscle mass decreases. That is the negative side. The bright side is the fat goes, too! Muscle came back. The fat stores didn’t. But as you are learning, too, due to the gastric size reduction protein intake needs to be increased. I did doctoral studies in nutritional biochemistry in the 1970s, but felt like a neophyte regarding nutrition after chemo and surgery. Have been working my way through it. Would be glad to give advice from my experience. Nutritionists and docs gave generic advice, that was virtually useless.

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