Diet - Eggs or no eggs?

Posted by zooblio6 @zooblio6, 2 days ago

I am just beginning ADT ( Gleason 7 4+3 T2a ) and see the oncologist tomorrow here in France to set out the RT plan. No dietary advice so far from eg urologist and guessing that tomorrow will only be a practical regime for the duration of the RT. Respected sources constantly recommend a plant-based diet ( already on this ) with little or no dairy products. However, the court seems to be out in the matter of eggs. This concerns me, since B12 is clearly important on all fronts and calcium is clearly an issue with risk of bone thinning whilst on ADT.

Has anyone here received advice for or against please?

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Don't know about eggs, but if you have radiation or ADT, watch your iron levels too. It's harder to get from a plant-based diet. I had mild anemia after treatment.

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Thats helpful, thanks. Had not anticipated that.

David

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"Respected sources constantly recommend a plant-based diet"

They do, but they all recommend this for most anyone. It's like saying quit smoking, it's bad for you and quitting will imporve your overall health so you should do it to aid in improving your health as much as possible while going through this. I'm sure there are studies supporting it, but, more in improving general health. Does a plant based diet aid in direct treatment? .mmmm maybe. I'm pretty much on one as well, more because the healthier I am, the better to weather the treatment. It's the same reason you'll see a lot of folks, me included, advocating for a regular fitness schedule as well.

What the radiation oncologist will likely be more focused on is a diet that will help with your being ready for the treatment at the time of treatment, one that doesn't cause gas! That's the only diet my RO gave me. At the time of the treatment you'll likely be asked to be "gas (and fecal matter) free and full of pee" as much as possible. This helps them to be precise on targeting and the full bladder will help protect the back of your body. Apparently, radiation doesn't pass through urine all that well.

I ate my regular number of eggs, probably a 4-6 a week while on the radiation and ADT (my radiation was salvage radiation.) None of the doctors every questioned my diet as long as I was ready for treatment at the appointed time.

Best of luck to you!

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Eat what you like, in moderation. If you eat 20 eggs/week, you'll probably get sick even when you don't have cancer, but 2–4 a week won't hurt you unless you're allergic to them or have already have high cholesterol.

Also note that "plant-based" isn't always good for you. You need to eat lots of simple vegetables, but many heavily-processed "plant-based" foods like Beyond patties are actually worse for you than the meat they're trying to replace. 😢

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There are different types of eggs. Look for cage-free chickens that were fed organic plant-based food,
After my surgery, I switched to the Mediterranean Diet.
Good luck with your eggs and recovery.

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Only ever buy organic or bio here in France. Only slight concern is that they may not always carry the full range of nutrients. All this now ( temporarily ) conflicted with the discovery of gallstones and the diet that that will advocate when I see the gastro lady on Thursday!

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@northoftheborder

Eat what you like, in moderation. If you eat 20 eggs/week, you'll probably get sick even when you don't have cancer, but 2–4 a week won't hurt you unless you're allergic to them or have already have high cholesterol.

Also note that "plant-based" isn't always good for you. You need to eat lots of simple vegetables, but many heavily-processed "plant-based" foods like Beyond patties are actually worse for you than the meat they're trying to replace. 😢

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Used to eat two a day at times but now down to say 3 p wk on average. Cholesterol has always been low. As a non-meat eater the B12 is important. Thanks for your reply.
All this now ( temporarily ) conflicted with the discovery of gallstones and the diet that that will advocate when I see the gastro lady on Thursday!

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@web265

"Respected sources constantly recommend a plant-based diet"

They do, but they all recommend this for most anyone. It's like saying quit smoking, it's bad for you and quitting will imporve your overall health so you should do it to aid in improving your health as much as possible while going through this. I'm sure there are studies supporting it, but, more in improving general health. Does a plant based diet aid in direct treatment? .mmmm maybe. I'm pretty much on one as well, more because the healthier I am, the better to weather the treatment. It's the same reason you'll see a lot of folks, me included, advocating for a regular fitness schedule as well.

What the radiation oncologist will likely be more focused on is a diet that will help with your being ready for the treatment at the time of treatment, one that doesn't cause gas! That's the only diet my RO gave me. At the time of the treatment you'll likely be asked to be "gas (and fecal matter) free and full of pee" as much as possible. This helps them to be precise on targeting and the full bladder will help protect the back of your body. Apparently, radiation doesn't pass through urine all that well.

I ate my regular number of eggs, probably a 4-6 a week while on the radiation and ADT (my radiation was salvage radiation.) None of the doctors every questioned my diet as long as I was ready for treatment at the appointed time.

Best of luck to you!

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Thanks a lot. All this now ( temporarily ) conflicted with the discovery of gallstones and the diet that that will advocate when I see the gastro lady on Thursday!

Thanks again.

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A recent study found that eating even one egg a month was too much. For a long time, I ate two eggs every day and my PSA stayed low, In fact, it hit undetectable one month, even though I was doing it.

Since then, I’ve cut back and I’m only eating two eggs a week. My PSA has been undetectable for 14 months, after 15 years of prostate cancer and four relapses.

I was really disappointed when that study showed that eggs were so bad for prostate cancer. I think if you do some Google searches, you will find the study.

Sometimes doctors forget to tell their prostate cancer patients that they need to take calcium citrate, 500 mg, twice a day. For me, that’s not even enough. You also should be on vitamin D. Super B complex is another thing my cancer pharmacist has told me I should take.

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Thanks for that. Did the study establish a causal link between eating eggs and prostate cancer progression, or did it only establish that there's some kind of correlation? As I know you know well, there's at least one study showing a correlation between everything and everything else, but most of them never pan out to anything more.

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