How many of you improved your osteoporosis without drug intervention?

Posted by deblb @deblb, Nov 28, 2024

I was just diagnosed with osteoporosis and had my first Prolia injection about a month ago. I have never had any health issues, I am 65 and have never been on medication. I was blind sided and of course didn't ask questions of my doctor and had no tests done other than the bone density scan only because it was recommended at my age. I am getting the Bone density report from my doctor, a GP, next week and I want to know what I should be asking her, should I request a referral to an endocrinologist?
I also want to know if anyone has stopped Prolia after 1 injection and is there a risk of rebound fractures? How many of you improved bone density with natural approaches. I am reading that bone density increases with Prolia because the 'dead' bone is not removed and new bone is deposited onto the old bone, not really improving bone quality. There is just so much information out there and hard to know what is fake and what is real.
Thanks for your help

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@susanfalcon52

I had bone improvement with Forteo and Tymlos both. I was only on those for five months each. The short course was a financial issue. Still, had improvement in bone health.
Later, (2023-2024), I had 12 months of Evenity. I had significant improvement from Evenity. In June 2024, I had an infusion of Reclast.
I have never had any side effects from any of these drugs other than some achyness the day after my first Evenity shots.
I realize that there could be long term side effects that won’t manifest until later.
I saw how my mother suffered for the last ten years of her life with spinal fractures. Easy decision for me. Gimme the drugs.
The only drugs that have ever affected me adversely are Sudafed (psychosis) and Claritin (euphoria).

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I did with Evenity, about 16%. My back moved into osteopenia. While I was on it I also did some exercising and walking, which I did before I was on it too.

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@doreenc

Wow, that's great! It's definitely going in the right direction. I, too, have refused meds (for now). Do you do any type of exercise? Would you mind sharing the all the brand names and the dosage of the supplements you use?

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Great news! Would you mind sharing the supplement brands you are taking. So many out there!!!! Thank you!

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@achristo7

Great news! Would you mind sharing the supplement brands you are taking. So many out there!!!! Thank you!

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Citracal Petites (3/daily), One A Day multi, Pure Encapsulations for magnesuim 3/daily), Thorne for Vitamin K, Vitamin D, Curcumin, Nordic Naturals for fish oil/vitamin D), Life Extension for low-dose Vitamin K (2/daily - I use this in addition to Thorne's Vitamin K).

Also I eat 6 prunes a day (3 in am and 3 in pm) from Sunsweet D'Noir Prunes to improve bone density)

I also make sure I take my magnesium separately from calcium.

I hope this helps!

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I was diagnosed with osteoporosis in my late 60's. Tried a couple of medications but had reactions that induced me to stop them. Doc wanted to do Fosamax (spelling?) treatments but I had no insurance. I created a treatment plan for myself with help from the web: went on a plant based diet, made sure I drank at least 4 cups of skim milk a day (sometimes flavored with a little bit of chocolate or maple syrup, honey, etc) I made sure I exercised every day...three mile walk in AM and 3 miles in evening plus shorter walks during the day (have a dog who almost mandated these walks - thank you, my pet). Also increased daily activities - started with least amount of effort and kept increasing my time and effort. The only change - bone wise- was that I lost 4 inches - went from 5'10"to 5'6". That really hurt my ego.I had always prided myself on my height - I thought it gave me a regal bearing. Ha! Today I have a few medical problems but nothing I can't deal with or without medication. Anyway, I think sometimes we go looking for drugs to cure and or help us along our health journey and sometimes all it takes is a change to our daily routines - mainly diet and exercise. Initially I had a lot of pain with the osteoporosis but with newly established routine I became much healthier and the pain subsided.

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I often wonder how our parents, grandparents, etc. kept on moving without all of these drugs. I was diagnosed 2 years ago with osteoporosis by some lab whose machine & or tech may not be the greatest. Immediately my PCP jumps on the Osteoporosis band wagon w/o testing my PTH for possible tumors. Just shove the pills down the patients throat without asking WHY DZ M have osteoporosis. ALL THE AGED are lumped together with the easy diagnosis without doing an investigation!!! My PCP ordered FOSAMAX for me; it made me sick, the final straw is when my bones locked up into a fetal position. I stopped the meds & my bones, once again became flexible. I changed PCP's. I am now with an internist.

Last week I had to have a number of x-rays on my knees to check the bone structure before knee surgery. I DO NOT HAVE OSTEOPOROSIS, I HAVE OSTEOPENIA as I have had for at least 18 years. I am 80 years old. There's no telling what damage the FOSAMAX has done to my body because last week, Dr. discovered, through blood tests, I have a high white blood count. Could 2 years on FOSAMAX have caused it?

Most of these "walk on water" doctors ought to have their heads examined. They take the easy route to satisfy whom at our expense? The pharmaceutical companies, their big conglomerate medical campuses?

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@firef1y

I often wonder how our parents, grandparents, etc. kept on moving without all of these drugs. I was diagnosed 2 years ago with osteoporosis by some lab whose machine & or tech may not be the greatest. Immediately my PCP jumps on the Osteoporosis band wagon w/o testing my PTH for possible tumors. Just shove the pills down the patients throat without asking WHY DZ M have osteoporosis. ALL THE AGED are lumped together with the easy diagnosis without doing an investigation!!! My PCP ordered FOSAMAX for me; it made me sick, the final straw is when my bones locked up into a fetal position. I stopped the meds & my bones, once again became flexible. I changed PCP's. I am now with an internist.

Last week I had to have a number of x-rays on my knees to check the bone structure before knee surgery. I DO NOT HAVE OSTEOPOROSIS, I HAVE OSTEOPENIA as I have had for at least 18 years. I am 80 years old. There's no telling what damage the FOSAMAX has done to my body because last week, Dr. discovered, through blood tests, I have a high white blood count. Could 2 years on FOSAMAX have caused it?

Most of these "walk on water" doctors ought to have their heads examined. They take the easy route to satisfy whom at our expense? The pharmaceutical companies, their big conglomerate medical campuses?

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You are correct to think that doctors are quick to dole out medications and treatments. It's what they are trained to do. Big Pharma is alive and well with these drugs providing billions of $ in revenue for these companies. An interesting read: NPR's How A Bone Disease Grew To Fit The Prescription.

Also another good read is the book "Overdiagnosed" by H. Gilbert Welch, MD. While it doesn't address osteoporosis, it's a real eye-opener nonetheless. Here's the book description: "Going against the conventional wisdom reinforced by the medical establishment and Big Pharma that more screening is the best preventative medicine, Dr. Gilbert Welch builds a compelling counterargument that what we need are fewer, not more, diagnoses. Documenting the excesses of American medical practice that labels far too many of us as sick, Welch examines the social, ethical, and economic ramifications of a health-care system that unnecessarily diagnoses and treats patients, most of whom will not benefit from treatment, might be harmed by it, and would arguably be better off without screening." (For the record, I am all for diagnostic tests like colonoscopies, mammos, DEXA, etc. but sometimes the medical community goes overboard.)

Many years ago I was prescribed a statin to control my cholesterol. I thought there had to be a better way. I went plant-based and ate one Brazilian nut a day. My cholesterol dropped 80 points in three months to an acceptable range. Brazilian nuts lower cholesterol levels (however you can't consume too many because of its high selenium content). So I decided to be my own test subject. Six weeks after eating one Brazilian nut a day (plus going plant-based) I had a cholesterol blood test at a local Minute Clinic and my cholesterol had already dropped 60 points. At my 3-month follow-up doctor's appointment, my cholesterol dropped 80 points. The doctor was so pleased that the statin was working and that my cholesterol levels were within normal range. When I told him I never took the statin and instead I went plant-based and ate a Brazilian nut once a day, his jaw literally dropped. He was absolutely stunned I achieved this with a diet change and eating a daily nut. Brazilian nuts combined with a plant-based diet did wonders for my cholesterol numbers. But statins, again, bring in billions of dollars so why the heck would these companies and/or doctors suggest anything as simple as consuming a nut on a daily basis or changing your diet. An interesting read: Brazil Nuts by NutritionFacts.org.

I'm all for medication if needed or when there's absolutely no other way or if it's critical. However, if there is another way, it's only up to us to find it. A doctor won't help other than write a script.

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@doreenc

You are correct to think that doctors are quick to dole out medications and treatments. It's what they are trained to do. Big Pharma is alive and well with these drugs providing billions of $ in revenue for these companies. An interesting read: NPR's How A Bone Disease Grew To Fit The Prescription.

Also another good read is the book "Overdiagnosed" by H. Gilbert Welch, MD. While it doesn't address osteoporosis, it's a real eye-opener nonetheless. Here's the book description: "Going against the conventional wisdom reinforced by the medical establishment and Big Pharma that more screening is the best preventative medicine, Dr. Gilbert Welch builds a compelling counterargument that what we need are fewer, not more, diagnoses. Documenting the excesses of American medical practice that labels far too many of us as sick, Welch examines the social, ethical, and economic ramifications of a health-care system that unnecessarily diagnoses and treats patients, most of whom will not benefit from treatment, might be harmed by it, and would arguably be better off without screening." (For the record, I am all for diagnostic tests like colonoscopies, mammos, DEXA, etc. but sometimes the medical community goes overboard.)

Many years ago I was prescribed a statin to control my cholesterol. I thought there had to be a better way. I went plant-based and ate one Brazilian nut a day. My cholesterol dropped 80 points in three months to an acceptable range. Brazilian nuts lower cholesterol levels (however you can't consume too many because of its high selenium content). So I decided to be my own test subject. Six weeks after eating one Brazilian nut a day (plus going plant-based) I had a cholesterol blood test at a local Minute Clinic and my cholesterol had already dropped 60 points. At my 3-month follow-up doctor's appointment, my cholesterol dropped 80 points. The doctor was so pleased that the statin was working and that my cholesterol levels were within normal range. When I told him I never took the statin and instead I went plant-based and ate a Brazilian nut once a day, his jaw literally dropped. He was absolutely stunned I achieved this with a diet change and eating a daily nut. Brazilian nuts combined with a plant-based diet did wonders for my cholesterol numbers. But statins, again, bring in billions of dollars so why the heck would these companies and/or doctors suggest anything as simple as consuming a nut on a daily basis or changing your diet. An interesting read: Brazil Nuts by NutritionFacts.org.

I'm all for medication if needed or when there's absolutely no other way or if it's critical. However, if there is another way, it's only up to us to find it. A doctor won't help other than write a script.

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That's great, but given that you went vegan, maybe you would have achieved the same result without the Brazil nut?

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@doreenc

You are correct to think that doctors are quick to dole out medications and treatments. It's what they are trained to do. Big Pharma is alive and well with these drugs providing billions of $ in revenue for these companies. An interesting read: NPR's How A Bone Disease Grew To Fit The Prescription.

Also another good read is the book "Overdiagnosed" by H. Gilbert Welch, MD. While it doesn't address osteoporosis, it's a real eye-opener nonetheless. Here's the book description: "Going against the conventional wisdom reinforced by the medical establishment and Big Pharma that more screening is the best preventative medicine, Dr. Gilbert Welch builds a compelling counterargument that what we need are fewer, not more, diagnoses. Documenting the excesses of American medical practice that labels far too many of us as sick, Welch examines the social, ethical, and economic ramifications of a health-care system that unnecessarily diagnoses and treats patients, most of whom will not benefit from treatment, might be harmed by it, and would arguably be better off without screening." (For the record, I am all for diagnostic tests like colonoscopies, mammos, DEXA, etc. but sometimes the medical community goes overboard.)

Many years ago I was prescribed a statin to control my cholesterol. I thought there had to be a better way. I went plant-based and ate one Brazilian nut a day. My cholesterol dropped 80 points in three months to an acceptable range. Brazilian nuts lower cholesterol levels (however you can't consume too many because of its high selenium content). So I decided to be my own test subject. Six weeks after eating one Brazilian nut a day (plus going plant-based) I had a cholesterol blood test at a local Minute Clinic and my cholesterol had already dropped 60 points. At my 3-month follow-up doctor's appointment, my cholesterol dropped 80 points. The doctor was so pleased that the statin was working and that my cholesterol levels were within normal range. When I told him I never took the statin and instead I went plant-based and ate a Brazilian nut once a day, his jaw literally dropped. He was absolutely stunned I achieved this with a diet change and eating a daily nut. Brazilian nuts combined with a plant-based diet did wonders for my cholesterol numbers. But statins, again, bring in billions of dollars so why the heck would these companies and/or doctors suggest anything as simple as consuming a nut on a daily basis or changing your diet. An interesting read: Brazil Nuts by NutritionFacts.org.

I'm all for medication if needed or when there's absolutely no other way or if it's critical. However, if there is another way, it's only up to us to find it. A doctor won't help other than write a script.

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Thank you for this very valuable information. I am so glad you have taken the time to reply. Found the book on AMAZon. https://www.amazon.com/Overdiagnosed-Making-People-Pursuit-Health/dp/0807021997 4.6/5 Rating. I am going to listen to the audiobook on AMAZ. The copy date is 2011. I wonder if Dr. Welch plans to update the book.

AMAZ has Brazil Nuts!! Yes, I agree there are diagnostic tests that we do need.

How a Bone Disease Grew to Fit the Prescription. https://www.npr.org/2009/12/21/121609815/how-a-bone-disease-grew-to-fit-the-prescription
This will make another good read.

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@mtnmarge osteoporosis does not cause pain unless we fracture, I have been told. I am curious what the explanation is for your loss of height. Mine is from fractures but presumably loss of disc height for other reasons might account for it.

We are living longer now than people used to. My mother actually did live into her 90's and in her facility there were many women who had a hump on their back and were bent over.

I have 7 spinal fractures and the pain is horrendous and I am unable to lift much at all (pots with water), open windows etc. Fractures can affect breathing, heart and GI function.

Always nice to read about people having success without meds. Meds saved my life. But when done with the regimens prescribed, I will try to maintain more holistically if my DEXA and bone markers show I can safely do tht.

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@mtnmarge

I was diagnosed with osteoporosis in my late 60's. Tried a couple of medications but had reactions that induced me to stop them. Doc wanted to do Fosamax (spelling?) treatments but I had no insurance. I created a treatment plan for myself with help from the web: went on a plant based diet, made sure I drank at least 4 cups of skim milk a day (sometimes flavored with a little bit of chocolate or maple syrup, honey, etc) I made sure I exercised every day...three mile walk in AM and 3 miles in evening plus shorter walks during the day (have a dog who almost mandated these walks - thank you, my pet). Also increased daily activities - started with least amount of effort and kept increasing my time and effort. The only change - bone wise- was that I lost 4 inches - went from 5'10"to 5'6". That really hurt my ego.I had always prided myself on my height - I thought it gave me a regal bearing. Ha! Today I have a few medical problems but nothing I can't deal with or without medication. Anyway, I think sometimes we go looking for drugs to cure and or help us along our health journey and sometimes all it takes is a change to our daily routines - mainly diet and exercise. Initially I had a lot of pain with the osteoporosis but with newly established routine I became much healthier and the pain subsided.

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When I was in my 70's I was startled to find that I had lost more than 2 inches in height on a routine health visit. I scheduled an appt with my husband's brilliant orthopedist, who's a famous spine surgeon in our area. He took an x-ray and smilingly told me I had lost some of the cushioning between my vertebrae. "But don't worry," he said, "you can lose only 4 inches that way, ao at the worst that's all it will be eventually." He was right, and I lost 4 inches - which of course affects your BMI, which isn't fair at all. I'm now a little old lady, though not small.

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