What helps spinal stenosis besides surgery?

Posted by sakota9 (Joan) @sakota, Jul 17, 2020

I also suffer from bursitus in my hips so I go in for infections. The shots help both my hips and my back. Today, thought I would look for things on the internet and then discuss with my dr. I came across an article for a neuromd Its a device you wear on your back and helps with the pain. Its been FDA tested and approved. Has anyone checked this out. I don't know if insurance covers it or not ...... I am getting tired of the injections and those really are just a temporary solution. I'm 76 and don't think I want to go thru surgery and my dr said that doesn't really help. So if anyone has one of these things or know about them, would appreciate your input. Besides the back am also dealing with copd and lung cancer........Life is like a box of cherries......I just keep getting the sour ones......... Hope you all are doing ok......andhave God, family and friends as your everyday support...........

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@jenniferhunter

@thoracic Thank you for sharing that information on the X -stop implant. I was curious about how it works, so I looked and found this. Basically, it prevents the vertebrae from moving closer to each other by holding then fixed in place on the outside of the spine so the nerve roots don't get compressed which are between the vertebrae. It looks like it could also prevent the slipping of vertebrae past each other (because they are fixed together) which is another reason that a spinal canal can become narrowed. A definitive answer needs to come from a doctor on if this is right for a particular patient.
https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayonline/Fulltext/2007/08210/New_Device_for_Relief_of_Lumbar_Spinal_Stenosis.3.aspx

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I was told by my Dr. That most private insurance won't cover this procedure.
I don't know why though .
I can barely walk after 4-5 hours working.

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As difficult as it sounds, movement has been the key for me with my severe stenosis. I go to a warming pool 3 days/week for an hour visit of walking the pool and using the jets on my back. I don’t swim, but just the walking back and forth in a heated pool is working wonders for my back. Even if you only have access to a “regular” indoor pool and can adapt to the regular temperature of the water, walking back and forth, frontwards and backwards will provide you with relief. My physical therapist recommends water therapy with great enthusiasm. If you don’t have access to a pool, chair exercises and walking in your home you help you tremendously. I am 78 and won’t do surgery and have found even the easiest chair exercises to be very beneficial.

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@gmathews83

I have scoliosis which is gradually affecting more and more activities. I periodically have Physical Therapy to strengthen my core, and it does help. But I know this isn't a cure and the effects from having a crooked spine will only worsen with age. Is there anyone out there who can advise/comment? Thanks!

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@gmathews83 Hello and welcome to Connect. May I suggest another discussion where members are talking about scoliosis rather than stenosis?

Spine Health - Severe Scoliosis
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/severe-scoliosis-1/
I'm glad physical therapy and core strength helps. Keep up the good work!

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Am suffering with spinal stenosis my dr.recomend back surgery but later found that I have a very low pulse rate at the moment the surgery is on hold am 69 should I still have surgery almost close to 70yrs any advise please

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@readybee

Am suffering with spinal stenosis my dr.recomend back surgery but later found that I have a very low pulse rate at the moment the surgery is on hold am 69 should I still have surgery almost close to 70yrs any advise please

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I found following the Gokhale Primal Posture Method very helpful, and now rarely experience any issues.

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@sbcarcht

I found following the Gokhale Primal Posture Method very helpful, and now rarely experience any issues.

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Did you the the classes or find some good results from the Gokhale book/videos?
Thank you!

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@readybee

Am suffering with spinal stenosis my dr.recomend back surgery but later found that I have a very low pulse rate at the moment the surgery is on hold am 69 should I still have surgery almost close to 70yrs any advise please

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I am 81 male with spinal stenosis. I am trying to keep track of spinal health with annual MRI. My doctor suggested this but also concerned about my low pulse (around 41 bpm). So I got a pacemaker. Newer ones are MRI compatible. But only certain MRI machines can be used with pacemakers.

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@willow5

Did you the the classes or find some good results from the Gokhale book/videos?
Thank you!

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the same person may have recommended this to me. i just went on youtube and she has many videos explaining basic posture techniques for walking, sitting , standing, it’s helped me to get walking more and farther! slowly… but i’m building strength now that i’m more aware of how to keep my spine lengthened. worth an explore!

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@crn

As difficult as it sounds, movement has been the key for me with my severe stenosis. I go to a warming pool 3 days/week for an hour visit of walking the pool and using the jets on my back. I don’t swim, but just the walking back and forth in a heated pool is working wonders for my back. Even if you only have access to a “regular” indoor pool and can adapt to the regular temperature of the water, walking back and forth, frontwards and backwards will provide you with relief. My physical therapist recommends water therapy with great enthusiasm. If you don’t have access to a pool, chair exercises and walking in your home you help you tremendously. I am 78 and won’t do surgery and have found even the easiest chair exercises to be very beneficial.

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I agree about the walking. Although I don’t walk in a pool (and I should try that at the warm pool nearby), I have a Trionic Veloped, a Swedish all terrain rollator that was created for outdoor walking and hiking. It will go over rugged ground, up and down curbs and steps and loves the snow. I walk my dog every morning, walking behind it. My dog is attached to the handlebars and can move to either side to smell and do his business. I lock the brakes and use the sturdy bike frame as support to pick up after him. I walk about a mile each day; lucky to live in a community that has paved trails that weave amongst our homes and into 75 acres of open space. I start out hurting and about one third to halfway through my walk, everything loosens up and the pain abates significantly. I also lock the brakes and lean forward to stretch out my back periodically when walking.

On my own, my dog would be lucky to get 1/8th to 1/4th mile out of me because my walk is too stiff and gets painful in a very short time. I also make use of a small indoor rollator with a tray in the house by evening when my back is tired and I have a lightweight cane in the car for when I have a distance to walk in a mall or have to park far away in the parking lot before getting to the door of a store that has carts inside.

The neurosurgeon where I live only gave me a 33% chance of success with a spinal fusion, the only surgery he said that would possibly fix my issues and he strongly urged me to avoid it if possible. I live in NM and if I do ever have to resort to surgery it will be at the Barrow’s Institute or the Mayo Clinic in AZ, although I was told that the Mayo in AZ and FL only accept Medicare if you live in their state so most likely it would be Barrows.

It doesn’t bother me to use mobility aids. It did at first but I didn’t want to become someone who never did anything because I was too embarrassed to use something that allowed me to get out and about. I can zip around handily with a rollator. It takes just enough pressure off my spine to allow me to walk normally.

Anyone who loves the outdoors and likes to spend time in nature, check out the Trionic Veloped’s. I have the 14” wheeled Tour model and I’ve had it on trails in the mountains. Wide trails work far better than narrow ones however. Lots of people stop and ask me about it. One day I’ll buy their 12” walker/rollator that’s more compact but will still take terrain. That will make travel easier although there’s one guy who has taken his Veloped over 4000 miles, even to Antarctica and one woman who walked the Camino with hers and she was in her 70s.

There’s a Trionic office in Sweden of course, and one in the US.
https://www.trionic.us/en/
One other thing that has helped me deal with often severe discomfort and pain is mind/body practices from Alan Gordon’s book The Way Out and using the Curable app for a year. Although it deals with parasympathetic pain that doesn’t have a structural basis, the techniques are really helpful to mitigate pain. Our brains are pretty powerful and if we can train them to work with us instead of against us, that’s a big plus.

I tried to attach a photo of the Veloped but if it’s not there, it was too large to be accepted.

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@kildaren96

I agree about the walking. Although I don’t walk in a pool (and I should try that at the warm pool nearby), I have a Trionic Veloped, a Swedish all terrain rollator that was created for outdoor walking and hiking. It will go over rugged ground, up and down curbs and steps and loves the snow. I walk my dog every morning, walking behind it. My dog is attached to the handlebars and can move to either side to smell and do his business. I lock the brakes and use the sturdy bike frame as support to pick up after him. I walk about a mile each day; lucky to live in a community that has paved trails that weave amongst our homes and into 75 acres of open space. I start out hurting and about one third to halfway through my walk, everything loosens up and the pain abates significantly. I also lock the brakes and lean forward to stretch out my back periodically when walking.

On my own, my dog would be lucky to get 1/8th to 1/4th mile out of me because my walk is too stiff and gets painful in a very short time. I also make use of a small indoor rollator with a tray in the house by evening when my back is tired and I have a lightweight cane in the car for when I have a distance to walk in a mall or have to park far away in the parking lot before getting to the door of a store that has carts inside.

The neurosurgeon where I live only gave me a 33% chance of success with a spinal fusion, the only surgery he said that would possibly fix my issues and he strongly urged me to avoid it if possible. I live in NM and if I do ever have to resort to surgery it will be at the Barrow’s Institute or the Mayo Clinic in AZ, although I was told that the Mayo in AZ and FL only accept Medicare if you live in their state so most likely it would be Barrows.

It doesn’t bother me to use mobility aids. It did at first but I didn’t want to become someone who never did anything because I was too embarrassed to use something that allowed me to get out and about. I can zip around handily with a rollator. It takes just enough pressure off my spine to allow me to walk normally.

Anyone who loves the outdoors and likes to spend time in nature, check out the Trionic Veloped’s. I have the 14” wheeled Tour model and I’ve had it on trails in the mountains. Wide trails work far better than narrow ones however. Lots of people stop and ask me about it. One day I’ll buy their 12” walker/rollator that’s more compact but will still take terrain. That will make travel easier although there’s one guy who has taken his Veloped over 4000 miles, even to Antarctica and one woman who walked the Camino with hers and she was in her 70s.

There’s a Trionic office in Sweden of course, and one in the US.
https://www.trionic.us/en/
One other thing that has helped me deal with often severe discomfort and pain is mind/body practices from Alan Gordon’s book The Way Out and using the Curable app for a year. Although it deals with parasympathetic pain that doesn’t have a structural basis, the techniques are really helpful to mitigate pain. Our brains are pretty powerful and if we can train them to work with us instead of against us, that’s a big plus.

I tried to attach a photo of the Veloped but if it’s not there, it was too large to be accepted.

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You are truly an amazing lady and thanks for sharing your inspiring story. God bless.

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