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What supplements help Osteopenia, Osteoporosis?

Posted by grace1215 @grace1215, Feb 4, 2020

Hi, I am a new member here and wanted to find out if anyone has used AlgaeCal Plus & Strontium Citrate for Osteopenia? I have had this condition for 10 years now plus five years with Osteoarthritis of the hip which I am hoping will help not only my hip but the DEXA scan came up with Osteopenia scores.

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healthmatters | @healthmatters | May 20 10:45pm

It appears I posted this in the wrong section. I meant to reply to another poster.

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healthmatters | @healthmatters | May 20 10:49pm
In reply to @alif "Hi Health matters, after having a Dexa scan my GP gave me the the prescription for..." + (show)
@alif

Hi Health matters, after having a Dexa scan my GP gave me the the prescription for once a month D3. (I am in New Zealand) He also put me on 3 months Fosamax. At the time I didn't want to take it but was a bit shell shocked and didn't know what else to do. I finished the 3 month course and stopped taking it and about the same time I had excruciating hip, thigh and knee pain on my right side, which is only just coming back to normal now eight weeks later. Multiple x-rays and ultrasound showed no reason for the pain, but I still suspect Fosamax. I am now on a journey of my own and plan to use diet, supplements and exercise rather than drugs. I wish that my GP's had told about all these other options. It is taking time to find out but I feel secure in my decision to follow the diet/ exercise route.

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I know how you feel I was shell shocked too. I have so much information. It might be overwhelming but once I got over the shock, I went into research mode. There is no order here, and some of it seems very technical but I just go through it, let it sink in for a moment, cross reference it all and seems to work.

To start:

GREAT information with Dr. Keith McCormick - he has been through it himself.


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https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/9/5/496#nutrients-09-00496-f002
FOS are Fructooligosaccharides. Foods high in FOS are onion chicory (one yogurt brand has this and chicory is also found in some coffees that add this) garlic, asparagus, leeks, jerusalem artichoke (careful if you plant it, it is invasive plant so it needs to be in a pot!).

Note, I just looked up the brand, it was Oikos, but it appears as of a month ago, they removed chicory from their yogurt.

The combination of soy-based diet (edamame, tofu...) , dried plum (prunes), FOS, significantly improved whole body & femoral BMD. See the article link above.

Then there is Calcium, vitamins D3, K2 (this is VERY important lot on the internet about it regarding bone), Magnesium (take 2 hours separate from Calcium, they compete for absorption in the intestine), Zinc, collagen, borate, copper... there are a few others.
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There is a better scan which incorporates the DEXA with a computer analysis. Gives you better info to determine if you should use anabolic (bone building) or the Fosamax type drugs (bone maintenance) Here is that link: https://onewelbeck.com/news/trabecular-bone-scoring/
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Bone marker tests and extensive/more info
https://food4healthybones.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/The-Importance-Of-Bone-Markers-With-Dr.-Keith-McCormick.pdf
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Squats, lunges, weighted walking (some say walking does nothing, others say 30 minutes each day at least 15 minute mile pace/work up to it IF possible and safely), dead lifts.

Again, be VERY careful, know what you are doing. There is a very safe way to work up to these intense exercises BABY STEPS is essential!! When you first begin, the baby steps approach will be as if the trainer is telling you to touch your nose with your fingertip, anyone can do that, right? But listen to the type of trainer that takes you SLOWLY and carefully with PROPER FORM, and even no weight at first or very slight squats or even assisted... the list goes on as the many ways to start carefully... too long to post it all here. YouTube has some very good videos about proper form for older persons or persons with fragile bones.

I am going to buy a weight belt, start with 2 pounds and work up to 10 in several months. I will wear this belt during waking hours and do my walks with it.

One can buy a weight vest too or make one, use a back pack and put a bag of rice/sand/water bottle or something of that sort in it. I am more concerned about my femur neck right now but I may add 2 pounds in a backpack too.

I hope you do well. Take care.

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goodjujuseattle | @goodjujuseattle | Oct 19 7:59pm
In reply to @gretchen1018 "Doctor's now recommend getting your calcium from foods and not supplements." + (show)
@gretchen1018

Doctor's now recommend getting your calcium from foods and not supplements.

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AlgaeCal is a plant based supplement and is highly rated with proof positive it can increase bone density. Has a moneyback guarantee. Base dexascan within 30 days of starting supplement compared to dexa on same machine 6 months later. No, I'm not affiliated. Just been doing a ton of research.

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sharon31 | @sharon31 | Oct 20 8:12am

I haven't used AgaeCal, but used something similar, Pure synergy bone renewal based on red algae.

I had problems with over-active thyroid a while ago, I stopped taking the supplements but didn't know if they were implicated. Things settled down and I started taking the supplements again, similar symptoms, extreme tiredness, loss of weight, started after a year or so. I stopped taking, and returned to normal.

I mention this not to put you off, but for awareness. As far as I know algae derived calcium very good option. It may be very unusual to have my problem. I would be very interested to know if anyone else had a problem.

Despite all this I have managed to build some bone, and I hope I am continuing to do so. I am now taking d3, magnesium glycinate and K2. Also diet and exercise important.

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raywood | @raywood | Nov 26 5:29pm
In reply to @bill54321 "Caution on Calcium Suppliments... I have had a long standing problem with Osteopenia. I am sorry..." + (show)
@bill54321

Caution on Calcium Suppliments... I have had a long standing problem with Osteopenia. I am sorry I can not give you more advice. I am complcated at 90 years old. I was getting the yearly infusion into my veins with flowmax?. I had a bowel obstruction in 2018. I went to the hospital and they got me unplugged.Ha Now I developed leg jerks they wrongly called "restless leg Snydrome. They kept me over into the hospital ward long enough to qualify for skilled nursing. By that time , I had developed more lower leg and shoulder weakness. After 20 days in the Taos Living Center, my Family Physician had an intern who was specializing in weakness of undetermined sources. She tested me and came up with the diagnosis os Hpercalcimia(Two much calcium was leading me down a wrong path.) I started Potassium Clo0ride ER M-20 MEG. As a retired PT, I welcomed a very strenuous program of PT and OT. I left after 100 days in a wheel chair. I have servere Lumbar problems and my L 5,S-1 sent me back for rehab. I now am in out-patient PT for a neck fusion and general conditioning. So, my osteopenia got swept into the back ground. I diagnosed myself with Myoclonic Dystonic Movement disorder and will see my neurologist next weeki. The moral of this story is, WATCH OUT FOR TOO MUCH CALCIUM SUPPLIMENT IN ANY FORM. ALSO< please check your Hyporhalumus and related effects of abnormal hand movements when you extend your arms and wrists(intention-not non intention tremor, and effects on "Restless leg sy6ndrome.(magnesium) My myoclonic jerks come any time of the day I recline and get sleepy.n they come. My increase suggest a brain tumor and that is what I am going to investigate. Any one have this? Not the medical definition but the actual 2 foot myoclonic Dystonia lighting painful jerks. Good luck with your AlgaeCalo. Does the Cal stand for Calcium? Check all your blood work Yourself.

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Hi, I also started having leg jerks (myoclonus) several months ago. Have you found anything that helps?
Thanks, Ray

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aria817 | @aria817 | Nov 30 1:17pm
In reply to @dbmenger "My doctor is on me unmercifully about getting another infusion of Reclast. I had high blood..." + (show)
@dbmenger

My doctor is on me unmercifully about getting another infusion of Reclast. I had high blood pressure, depression and hair loss with the last dose so I don’t want to repeat that bad time. Suggestions, please?
My bone density, BT W, remained the same after Reclast.
I’m not a proponent of any of these bone-builders.

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How long did you do the Reclast?

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pami | @pami | Dec 1 10:28am
In reply to @goodjujuseattle "AlgaeCal is a plant based supplement and is highly rated with proof positive it can increase..." + (show)
@goodjujuseattle

AlgaeCal is a plant based supplement and is highly rated with proof positive it can increase bone density. Has a moneyback guarantee. Base dexascan within 30 days of starting supplement compared to dexa on same machine 6 months later. No, I'm not affiliated. Just been doing a ton of research.

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I am waiting to see if Algaecal makes bones that don't fracture. Have you found anything your studies? Denser bones could mean that the mineral, strontium, weighs more but not necessarily more bone because of it.

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