Tips on minimizing withdrawal symptoms from Effexor (aka Venlafaxine)

Posted by richyrich @richyrich, Nov 2, 2016

I have been taking Effexor/Venlafaxine for years and tried to get off it a few times but each time I try to give up the chemical withdrawal symptoms are a horror story and I give up giving up. Anyone got any tips or tried and tested strategies? Thank you

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Hello, would it be possible for you please, to read my replies to:
@mmaffei
@babyskyann123
and
@mukmuk

Each one of these would be relevant to you, I think.
Best of luck!!

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@zainahelizabeth

Hello, please would you be kind enough to read my reply to ‘babyskyann123’ as this is also applicable to you. Also, I tried taking a 75mg tablet on alternate days, and found that it had an horrific effect - the last symptom I am gradually getting rid of almost one year later. My doctor stated that she had no experience in dealing with this, and that I knew more about it than she did! I bought a book called:

‘The Maudsley Deprescribing Guidelines - Antidepressants, Benzodiazepines, Gabarpentinoids, and Z-drugs’

by Mark Horowitz and David Taylor. Both men are extremely well qualified, with David Taylor being professor of Psychopharmacology, King’s College University, London. He is also Director of Pharmacy and Pathology, South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust.

It’s not cheap, I paid
£ 40.00, but it’s worth every penny. The book covers everything about this subject, and includes tapering guidance for specific drugs - including venlafaxine (effexor). EVERY PERSON SHOULD BUY THIS BOOK if they are going through this, or plan to. I think all GP surgeries should have it too, if they prescribe any of these drugs. There is so much advice and information given, including example tables of how much one should reduce by, going from 300mgs per day to nothing. (By the way, I have nothing whatever to do with either the authors or the Maudsley Hospital. I get nothing by recommending people to buy it)! To give you an idea, I have been taking venlafaxine for many years; it will apparently take me at least 20 - 40 months, possibly more, for me to come off this drug whilst keeping withdrawal symptoms to a bearable minimum. Having had an awful year trying to cope with these horrible withdrawals, I shall be following what they say, to the letter. Please don’t take giving up this drug lightly. Good luck!

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You are 100% correct. I bought the book and gave one to my pharmacist and doctor. We all learned something vital for persons who have anything to do with Effexor/venlafaxine.

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I’m so pleased you found it useful.

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@coloradogirl

Happy to help. Good luck with your process. I also forgot to mention that both stress and sugar seem to make the brain zaps worse for me. Even though I've been off for about a month now, I had a cupcake yesterday afternoon and within about an hour, I had quite a few. Worth watching in case it does the same thing to you.

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@coloradogirl, what is a "brain zap"?

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I have recently titrated a great many psychiatric medication‘s along with a number of medication given to me to deal with the side effects. If you want more information, please check my post and message me if you have any questions the single most important thing that I have found is hydration, hydration, hydration.

I drink 2 gallons of electrolytes daily right now as I exercise, try to regain my cognition and lose weight I have accumulated over fifteen years of putting prescribed poison into my body.

I recently researched and found that the brain is 80% water and a 1% reduction in a hydration lead to a 5% reduction in cognitive function.

I am not a person who has typically hydrated in fact I used to consume a lot of coffee for the stimulating affects to counteracted the sedative effects of the psychiatric medication and further dehydrate me, since reducing psychiatric medication and increasing hydration, it has been easy maintaining healthy and stable weight and emotional state.

Who knew…or maybe they do.

First thing in the morning I drink 8oz even before I get out of bed and I can feel the hydration feeding my cells, try it.

This is for me only, I strongly recommend avoiding hydration with lots of sugar, focus on electrolytes, potassium, sodium, zinc, magnesium.

I’m not recommending anything to anyone. You have to make your own decisions.

I also use 5 mg of creatine, which is extraordinarily heavily research along with electrolytes and this seems to be helping my brain and body stay hydrated.

Each of us has to make our own decisions talk to your doctors if they’ll pay attention and have the time. Or Google it yourself.

Made me mad when I realized how simple it is to feel a lot better.

The hydration and the creatine I mentioned are perhaps the most heavily research naturally occurring bodily substances in science. They cause no harm in the body, too much creatine makes me nauseous, no other side effects, take that Venlafaxine.

I guess people with high blood pressure should talk to there docs(?) about the sodium, but my blood pressure is 120/74 spot on down in 6 from 160/113 on meds…currently bp is without meds.

This is not the only intervention I’ve implemented but it is by far the easiest…the rest cascade from there.

This is my experience only, but it is real lived experience, not some theory. Please review my post, my experience is broad perhaps this might help you.

If my cognition had not been so retard by the heavy doses of meds I was on, I’d have jettisoned these poison years ago.

We will all live in peace and good health soon; it is our birthright,

David

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My Goodness Friends !!! These threads about withdrawal from EffexorXR appeared in front of me in perfect time. I wish I had researched this drug before ever going on it ! Perhaps it helps others, but personally it should be banned !!!

I’ve been tapering off for well over a year. Today is my 2nd day off this drug ..just started on 5 mg of Lexapro a day. OMG - If I could just remove my head off my body I would feel better. I cannot move my eyes-turn my neck or even walk without feeling unsteady. The sweeping sounds in my head are relentless! Sandpapering-brushing- computer reboots! The intermittent tinnitus is horrible. Tried white noise last night ..helped just a bit. Was trying to drown out the sound of the cicada’s !

I’ve been seeking info for years on how to get off this poison. I began because I noticed if I would of forgot just one dose or was even late taking my pill I could not even walk straight without holding on to a wall- enduring loud, scary head shocks and zap upon zaps.

I am just so angry at this drug. The original Effexor was taking off the market..interesting. I’m starting to understand the revolt against Big Pharma. This is a struggle. I’m so sorry for all of you going through this. It’s just not right.

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@coloradogirl

So, I just finished this process with Zoloft (sertraline) and here are some things that worked for me. Your mileage may vary, but hopefully these are low risk for you to try.

1) You may need to ask your doctor for a slower tapering program than other patients. Some people are just more sensitive to dosage changes. Be aware that symptoms will get better, then may reappear each time you taper. AAFMA (practice group of family physicians) says that the symptoms typically last 1-2 weeks and as long as 4 weeks, so I just kept reminding myself that it was temporary.
2) Be watchful for things that make your symptoms worse. For example, caffeine seems to trigger the brain zaps for me (still, even after being off for several weeks), so I cut back my caffeine intake. I didn't give it up completely (because I still need to function), but cut back on how much real coffee I was drinking, mixed decaf with regular, and switched to tea sometimes. In the end, I probably cut my daily caffeine intake in half, and it did help quite a lot.
3) Ibuprofen or other pain reliever can help with the flu-like body aches.
4) Benadryl helped with the brain zaps.
5) Exercise helped with both. Even if I wasn't up to a run, a few blocks of walking would settle down the symptoms for a while at least. (Then, when they come back, just take another walk. We took a lot of walks for a while there).
6) Get enough sleep. As I came down off the meds, my normal sleeping patterns returned, which was great, but it did mean that I needed to plan time to let my body rest.
7) Pay attention to your diet. Your brain uses carbs to make seratonin, so now is not the time to go on the Atkins diet. Eat well and make sure you're getting enough healthy carbs. You may crave sweets; I certainly did. I tried to counteract this by having bananas, graham crackers, and other healthy things I could snack on instead of sticking my head in a birthday cake like I seemed to want.

No lie - it's a painful process, but this did really help make it easier. Also, at a certain point, when I was down the below the normal starter dose, I just ripped off the bandaid and went to zero. At that point, it felt like each taper was just prolonging the suffering. Don't just go cold turkey from your current dose, though, as that can be dangerous. Also, don't add any supplements or substitutes for the SSRI without talking to your doctor first (also dangerous).

And of course, watch for the return of depression / anxiety type symptoms. For a while it was hard to tell whether I was tired because of the change in meds or because my depression was returning. I figured as long as I felt okay enough to function and wasn't thinking about being harmful to myself or anyone else, I could play it out and see. It turned out to be the meds and on the other side, I can see that I was more worried about it than I needed to be.

I wish you the best of luck and a healthy life.

Mardee

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Thank you for the tip on the Benadryl. This is a struggle !

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I’m with you on this journey. It is a horror show for me. I am searching relentlessly here for tips.

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@careth2

Hi there! I am new to Connect, but hopefully can offer some insight. I DID go off 150 Effexor XR (name brand) COLD TURKEY on January 2016. I survived it, but will never in my life EVER go off ANY antidepressant cold turkey. I had taken Effexor for at least 8 years, Zoloft prior to that and and Imipramine (sp?) as the first antidepressant (in all 25+ years on antidepressants.) It all started with running out of meds over a long weekend and deciding it was time to try to get off antidepressants to see how I would do. Since I had recently retired from teaching, thought this would be an ideal time to give it a go. In addition, Effexor just wasn't helping all that much anymore (I thought.) The first 3 days I felt like I was going to die! When I realized that I wasn't dying, decided to keep going to get it all over with. In addition to the symptoms you have heard about, I had deep bone/joint pain that felt like I was being pinched with clamps. Also had skin sensations and peeling, and noticed a strange smell on my skin. Each day got a little better and by the 3rd week started to function a bit more normally. I was very emotional, however, which caused my family great concern. Well, to make a long story short, the depression crept back in full and I am still trying to get my life back. I did everything I could to stay stable, including herbal supplements and took a vacation where I hiked 6 miles daily for 9 days on hilly, rocky terrain. I finally had to accept that I'm a person who will need antidepressants for the rest of my life. With the help of a PCP and counselor, I am on my 3rd antidepressant & may need to resort to going back on Effexor, because nothing seems to be working. All in all, in my opinion, the chronic depression is worse than the withdrawal symptoms that do eventually end. If you are a person with situational depression, you may be successful weaning off Effexor gradually. If I were to do it again, that's what I would do (while replacing Effexor with something else.) Here are the things that helped me with the physical withdrawal symptoms:
1. Get plenty of sleep/rest.
2. Eat a very well-balanced diet (this is not the time to worry about your weight.) Lots of soup & easy to digest foods the 1st few days.
3. Drink plenty of water, including coconut water.
4. Have a glass of wine in the evening (if advisable.)
5. Get outside and walk or other excersize (the warm sunshine will feel good!)
6. Hot yoga 3-4 times per week. Stay in class even if you feel nauseous & can only do a few postures.
7. Soak in a hot tub (with bath salts if available.)
8. Use a good moisturizer on face & body several times per day.
9. Get several professional massages.
10. Take Tylenol for muscle pain, if OK on your stomach.
11. A heating pad is also helpful at bedtime or during naps.
12. If you are single & live alone, make sure a few trusted friends/family members know what you are doing.
13. In general, be kind & gentle to yourself.
14. NEVER give up! Keep going, even when you don't feel like it (which will be often.) YOU ARE WORTH IT!!!

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Just caught this post - thank you for your tips. In my first 3 days off Effexor —omg - hellish. I hope you are doing well and are feeling healthy. I wish to reach a goal of being to able to hike for hours.

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