Estrogen For Bone Health

Posted by Lynn Brooks @lbroomayo1, Jul 13, 2021

Around three years ago I started a self evaluated and controversial strategy for bone, muscle, and heart health. I started medical study in late middle age, because I am a licensed insurance agent and wanted to improve my knowlege of medicine. I also wanted a second career to work part time, to earn extra income after retirement. I chose nursing. I injured my knee at the YMCA with swelling and saw an orthopedic doctor. He gave me a treatment plan which consisted of diclofenac and PT. My healing was an extremely slow process. I saw an opportunity to speed things up a little. One day in A&P lecture, my instructor stated that estrogen was the most important factor in bone matrix. I saw s Nurse Practitioner and requested a small dose. She gave me a low dose for 30 days. My knee greatly improved. I asked her to extend the prescription and increase the dose and the NP refused. I saw another doctor and received a stronger dose and a year of prescriptions. He later added progesterone to the hormone regemine. I in turn, cylced the two hormones to mimic the uterine cycle that I read in my A&P book. Three years later I have had extrordinary results. Both my mother and sister were walking with assistance when they were reached my age. My bone mass increased in some areas. I do wear a corsette all day 7 days a week with supporting underwire, which improved my spine curvature and posture. However, there are risks and consequences. Another A&P instructor warned of an extremely high cancer rate with estrogen use for two years or longer in women over age 50. I am an insurance agent, so I did a risk assessment on myselft to access my tolerance for the drugs. I also added a vitamin supplement program, mostly prescribed by my doctors. I have 4 doctors that I see regularly and 3 of them were mortified. However, people take risks in their lives from smoking to other risky hobbies and interests. I felt that I had spent to much time and money in nursing at a late age and it was important to be able to physically and mentally perform the duties and tasks of nursing. My negative side effects have decreased substantially since I first started. I have lab every 6 months evaluating my estrogen levels, cancer risks, and other elements uncovered with blood analysis. This includes but not limited to CA 125 tests and Ionized calcium ranges as well. What do you think? I have full range of motion but I'm still aging like everybody else. This strategy is not a fountain of youth, but a risk which can lead to amazing results depending on your risk factors.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Aging Well Support Group.

@silverwolf66

I am intrigued !! I’ve been researching hormone replacements & although my risk level for heart disease is high, I intend to talk with a GYN, next week. I had a hysterectomy (complete) 42 years ago & no hormone replacements. My bones are suffering because of that as well as other issues. Please, if you would, keep in contact with me. I’m a retired nurse & am very interested in this.

Jump to this post

A bone specialist at the Hospital for special surgery in NYC told me it’s only possible to start taking hormone replacements to ameliorate osteoporosis within the first five years After menopause (or after a hysterectomy). i will be interested to hear what gyn says

REPLY
@jenniferhunter

@lbroomayo1 Lynn, I can share some experience with hormone replacement and what I have learned from my functional medicine doctors. What is prescribed for me is bio-identical hormone replacement that is custom made for me by a compounding pharmacy. My doctors have told me that bio-identical replacement of estrogen and progesterone reduce risks of colon cancer and also help maintain bone strength. The problems that happen that increase risks of cancer can be due to it not being a bio-identical match or that a person doesn't detox well, or hormones are not balanced. There are normal biochemical pathways the body uses to detox the end products of using estrogen and some people do it better than others. If the end products are not detoxed and removed, this can cause problems. The estrogen must also be balanced against progesterone for its protective effect because too much estrogen dominance causes problems. You don't need to have cycles if the hormone levels are set correctly. Functional medicine doctors and environmental medicine doctors try to achieve balance in the body so all the systems are working correctly and optimized for the best health. There are tests to measure if a patient is detoxing the hormone byproducts, and you can add supplements to help assist. My doctor recommended Orthomolecular Methyl CpG which is a supplement for heart health of several B vitamins, and this helps feed detox pathways. Functional medicine doctors think "outside the box" as opposed to conventional doctors who are prescribing manufactured pills that approximate human hormones and they read the studies of the effects of those prescriptions. That is why you are seeing their reactions of apprehension. I don't have the biochemical knowledge to fully understand this process, but a functional medicine specialist should. The field of environmental medicine was started by a practice in Dallas and they have research volumes for doctors that explain everything.

You can find information at https://www.aaemonline.org/ On the upper right corner of the website is a blue button where you can search for a provider. This link is a provider in Dallas, TX where a lot of the pioneering work was done in this field. https://www.ehcd.com/

I am glad to see that you are advocating for yourself, but please do check in with a specialist who understands the biochemistry of natural hormones. I am glad that you are working to maintain your health and there are many choices involved with that including efforts to reduce inflammation. It is something that needs to be properly tweaked to be balanced and optimized and keep it away from the dangers of approximation. Another thing you could consider is to have a genetic test to determine if your risk of cancer is higher than average. That might help in your optimization of your health. I know there are specific tests for a breast cancer gene, but there are also other tests that can predict cancer risks. Those might be specifc for specific cancers, but that is something you could ask your provider about.

Jump to this post

i have had extensive genetic testing and as a result i would not consider hormone replacement

REPLY
@elisabeth007

A bone specialist at the Hospital for special surgery in NYC told me it’s only possible to start taking hormone replacements to ameliorate osteoporosis within the first five years After menopause (or after a hysterectomy). i will be interested to hear what gyn says

Jump to this post

Hmmm. I wonder if that thinking comes from the old women's health initiative study. There is so much that is new in women's health and research. I have really broadened my thinking about this and recently watched the PBS documentary on menopause called The M Factor Shredding the silence on menopause.

REPLY

I started Biote pellets ten years after menopause at age 67. I am now 71. I take it for my bones, as I have osteoporosis, and my brain, as my oldest sister has Alzheimer’s. My primary care doctor approves. I now have improved to osteopenia in some areas and I credit that to the pellet. I am very active, just got back from a 40 mile gravel ride and I also do Pilates and a bit of weights. I want to stay as fit and healthy as possible.

REPLY

I was on estrogen for over 20 yrs after my total abd. hysterectomy. In 2004 there was so much controversy so I went off it.. estrogen is a scary drug because of the risk of cancer. I take fosamax for my osteopenia. Continue your research. Stay close to your Dr's. BUT they don't have all the answers. Good luck

REPLY
@donnajones

You r amazing Lynn and an inspiration for all. I am an RN BSN, 74 and still work 40+ hours/week. I also use bioidentical estrogen,testosterone, and progesterone and I feel amazing. I have been on it for over 10 years with no ill side effects only less bone and body pain. Good luck with your RN license I know you can do it and doubt you will ever regret it.

Jump to this post

I am finding that while my bones look good on my xrays, my tendons, and bursae are just not keeping up! Wish hormones could regenerate them too.

REPLY
@aethos

I started Biote pellets ten years after menopause at age 67. I am now 71. I take it for my bones, as I have osteoporosis, and my brain, as my oldest sister has Alzheimer’s. My primary care doctor approves. I now have improved to osteopenia in some areas and I credit that to the pellet. I am very active, just got back from a 40 mile gravel ride and I also do Pilates and a bit of weights. I want to stay as fit and healthy as possible.

Jump to this post

Your energy level is certainly inspiring! Keep it up. 👍

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.