Now that we have a product name, let's look at this like a scientist or researcher.
First, I looked for scientific research studies or scholarly articles of Bioptimizers magnesium, or any of their other supplements. Nothing!
Then I looked at scholar.google.com. Nothing!
Then I looked through pages and pages of the search "BIOptimizer Magnesium Breakthrough" on Google - all are sponsored, or ads from places like Amazon. Even the youtube reviews are sponsored.
Hmm, really looks like a lot of self-promotion. What do scholarly articles say about magnesium? A lot, actually, including that it MAY help reduce pain. https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2184
But, again, there are no scholarly reviews to demonstrate that there are significant difference between supplements containing one or two types of magnesium, and those containing more.
As to whether we really need a magnesium supplement at all, read here: https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/magnesium-test
Remember, as with all substances, more is not necessarily better. And your food and other supplements provide magnesium as well. Magnesium in excess of what your body needs is excreted by the kidneys - in other words, you produce expensive urine. If you have stomach, lung or kidney conditions, you can have side effects like gastritis, diarrhea, respiratory distress or worsened kidney disease.
Magnesium can also interfere with the effectiveness of other medications, and in the case of cardio and blood pressure medications can cause side effects.
Now, one more check. What does a magnesium supplement cost from BIOptimizer? On their Web Site 60 capsules of 250mg magnesium each or a 30 day supply costs $27.20 (The label says one dose is 2 capsules) On Amazon, it is $39.00 In other words, about $1.00 to $1.30/day
What does a magnesium supplement cost from other sources? Looking at several from known supplement companies, 500 mg (from 2 to 8 types of magnesium) costs between $.10 and $.25 per day.
So, if I was thinking about supplementing magnesium, I would look at all the other things I eat and supplements I take to see if I already get enough. Then I would look at my prescriptions and see if it might interact with them. Finally, I would run it by my doc just to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
The truth about pain management is that you can explain until you are blue in the face (or perhaps red) but most healthcare professionals are not programmed 🙂 to deal with it simply because they are looking for ways to heal you. This is not going to happen. The problems are only going to get worse. I can tell you that from personal experience. What we need is relief, not counseling or anti-depressants or visualizing a sunset. The best therapy I had was a warm therapy pool several times a week. Open swim. Not available where I live now. Surprisingly, drug free! 🙂 Pain of many kinds cannot be described in numbers or grumpy faces since it is complex for those of us with multiple issues. I remember being lectured by a neurologist about the non-existence of fibromyalgia. The next day I had emergency appendix surgery. I often wonder what would have happened if it had burst in the office that day. He would not have believed me. The pain felt like mild heartburn, to be honest, so I did not believe them when they told me what it was because my body pain was so much worse. Now, years later, I realize had no idea what pain was then.
Currently taking a boatload of strong medication and still I ache. I think the worst is when I bump into something or kick something accidentally (or hit my head on the car) because that's when I see the end of my life stretching closer before me and I can't breathe. Truly awful.
The truth about pain management is that you can explain until you are blue in the face (or perhaps red) but most healthcare professionals are not programmed 🙂 to deal with it simply because they are looking for ways to heal you. This is not going to happen. The problems are only going to get worse. I can tell you that from personal experience. What we need is relief, not counseling or anti-depressants or visualizing a sunset. The best therapy I had was a warm therapy pool several times a week. Open swim. Not available where I live now. Surprisingly, drug free! 🙂 Pain of many kinds cannot be described in numbers or grumpy faces since it is complex for those of us with multiple issues. I remember being lectured by a neurologist about the non-existence of fibromyalgia. The next day I had emergency appendix surgery. I often wonder what would have happened if it had burst in the office that day. He would not have believed me. The pain felt like mild heartburn, to be honest, so I did not believe them when they told me what it was because my body pain was so much worse. Now, years later, I realize had no idea what pain was then.
Currently taking a boatload of strong medication and still I ache. I think the worst is when I bump into something or kick something accidentally (or hit my head on the car) because that's when I see the end of my life stretching closer before me and I can't breathe. Truly awful.
Excellent post. One thing I have experienced since my first post operative Oxycodone (1996 or 7?) Over time the pains and causes change. Different surgeries, different providers, different policies, different approaches to dealing with pain and who pays. At 72, it gets harder everyday to get off the recliner. My therapist is my age. Since the pandemic we talk on laptops. It's a waste of time but goes with the expectations of my pain management group. Over time where the worst pain comes from has changed. Currently it's my spine and shoulder. Shoulder needs replacement, I've been told. I just treasure a day with nothing to do. This morning I had a PSA recheck. One of the few things that hasn't been an issue yet. As I look out the back doors I see the backyard changing, leaves will be falling and I don't know if I can handle them anymore. Since I started this note my jaw began tightening and making crunching sounds when I move it. Oh well, it could be worse. I just wish we could opt out of political ads.
What you and I need Woojr, is the warm therapy pool that I used to go to several times a week. It was heavenly.
Free swim! We did our exercises and used the pool noodles or whatever we wanted. There was a corner with jets but those actually hurt so i rarely used it. All the medication in the world did not help as much as the pool. Also, it was great because there were other people who had similar or worse issues than me (well, you know what i mean) and it was a nice group to commiserate with. We talked about our doctors 🙂 and all kinds of stuff.
I am sorry you're having more pain. The jaw problem perhaps i can shed light on? i had jaw joint replacement surgery several years ago at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN. I had jaw/ear pain for probably 15 years before it was finally figured out (oh it's migraines, blah blah TMJ blah blah :)) it's a long saga. Have you read War and Peace? But the surgery saved my life. I would encourage you to find out what it is and don't let anyone deter you. My dentist did not know, the neurologist was unable to open the MRI that he had ordered (yes, another story) but not at Mayo btw. I persisted. You can't stay in your chair, we need you up and around 🙂
For aqua therapy to work you have to be comfortable in the water. I am PETRIFIED of water. I grew up on a farm where there was a gravel pit and my mother preached for years to stay away from the water because I could drown. The nearest pool was 50 miles away so I couldn't take swimming lessons. I tried to learn to swim as an adult but would get panic attacks so I still don't swim. Yes, water therapy is good for most people but not me. Doctors have suggested it for me but I can't do it.
I'm sure it's very difficult. And for you to get others to actually understand as well. I did know someone else with the same issue, i think? As a child she was pushed into a pool by other kids and was so frightened by the experience that she never wanted to be in the water again.
The pool I went to was not deep though, it was about chest high at the deepest end. It was designed for therapy. They had a canvas lift chair for the residents (it was at a community residential facility) so that the elderly could be lowered in and then two aides could help with exercises and movement. There was a long two way ramp for anyone who needed assistance walking into the water. So it was not your regular pool. Bars all around the edges, etc. We used them to do our leg exercises. Sometimes we just walked back and forth because it was so shallow (like knee-high) Quite a few people had knee or hip replacements and it was a great alternative to the hospital pools which are tiny and just not as pleasant. This pool had floor to ceiling windows and we would watch the snow outside 🙂
Perhaps something occurred in your mother's life that made her leery of water? It's hard to know. I remember when i was younger that i could climb up those towers in parks to overlook the scenery, but no more. I think my brain changed and i can't do it now. It's not fear but it's some kind of imbalance feeling. I wish i could do it because i would love to look over the landscape. I have been climbing ladders recently to do some painting though without any problem but that's different.. i guess.
All the best to you.
For aqua therapy to work you have to be comfortable in the water. I am PETRIFIED of water. I grew up on a farm where there was a gravel pit and my mother preached for years to stay away from the water because I could drown. The nearest pool was 50 miles away so I couldn't take swimming lessons. I tried to learn to swim as an adult but would get panic attacks so I still don't swim. Yes, water therapy is good for most people but not me. Doctors have suggested it for me but I can't do it.
Aqua therapy does not require for you to swim...
I am a poor swimmer myself...
I had aqua therapy. The pool was not deep. The exercises are movements you do in the water while walking etc.
So maybe you could reconsider?
It is the only PT I enjoyed... and more effective than other types.
Excellent post. One thing I have experienced since my first post operative Oxycodone (1996 or 7?) Over time the pains and causes change. Different surgeries, different providers, different policies, different approaches to dealing with pain and who pays. At 72, it gets harder everyday to get off the recliner. My therapist is my age. Since the pandemic we talk on laptops. It's a waste of time but goes with the expectations of my pain management group. Over time where the worst pain comes from has changed. Currently it's my spine and shoulder. Shoulder needs replacement, I've been told. I just treasure a day with nothing to do. This morning I had a PSA recheck. One of the few things that hasn't been an issue yet. As I look out the back doors I see the backyard changing, leaves will be falling and I don't know if I can handle them anymore. Since I started this note my jaw began tightening and making crunching sounds when I move it. Oh well, it could be worse. I just wish we could opt out of political ads.
The motto in the medical research, etc. is not to come up with a cure, but to hype an often useless treatment. How often have we heard that a cancer cure was just around the corner and many decades later, still waiting.
What you and I need Woojr, is the warm therapy pool that I used to go to several times a week. It was heavenly.
Free swim! We did our exercises and used the pool noodles or whatever we wanted. There was a corner with jets but those actually hurt so i rarely used it. All the medication in the world did not help as much as the pool. Also, it was great because there were other people who had similar or worse issues than me (well, you know what i mean) and it was a nice group to commiserate with. We talked about our doctors 🙂 and all kinds of stuff.
I am sorry you're having more pain. The jaw problem perhaps i can shed light on? i had jaw joint replacement surgery several years ago at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN. I had jaw/ear pain for probably 15 years before it was finally figured out (oh it's migraines, blah blah TMJ blah blah :)) it's a long saga. Have you read War and Peace? But the surgery saved my life. I would encourage you to find out what it is and don't let anyone deter you. My dentist did not know, the neurologist was unable to open the MRI that he had ordered (yes, another story) but not at Mayo btw. I persisted. You can't stay in your chair, we need you up and around 🙂
Over twenty years ago I installed a hot tub. It was outside but I used it from April to Nov. It wore out a couple years before the pandemic. As far as the jaw I had all the tests and opinions from dental and specialist five years ago. Stress. I was okay last year but I've had other health issues as well as trying to keep up with my not so cooperative 95 yo mother. She's truly a very stressful aspect of my life. She's online a lot and believes everything is true online. Think about that combo.
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1 ReactionI really like your research. Fact checking is important.
The truth about pain management is that you can explain until you are blue in the face (or perhaps red) but most healthcare professionals are not programmed 🙂 to deal with it simply because they are looking for ways to heal you. This is not going to happen. The problems are only going to get worse. I can tell you that from personal experience. What we need is relief, not counseling or anti-depressants or visualizing a sunset. The best therapy I had was a warm therapy pool several times a week. Open swim. Not available where I live now. Surprisingly, drug free! 🙂 Pain of many kinds cannot be described in numbers or grumpy faces since it is complex for those of us with multiple issues. I remember being lectured by a neurologist about the non-existence of fibromyalgia. The next day I had emergency appendix surgery. I often wonder what would have happened if it had burst in the office that day. He would not have believed me. The pain felt like mild heartburn, to be honest, so I did not believe them when they told me what it was because my body pain was so much worse. Now, years later, I realize had no idea what pain was then.
Currently taking a boatload of strong medication and still I ache. I think the worst is when I bump into something or kick something accidentally (or hit my head on the car) because that's when I see the end of my life stretching closer before me and I can't breathe. Truly awful.
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8 ReactionsExcellent post. One thing I have experienced since my first post operative Oxycodone (1996 or 7?) Over time the pains and causes change. Different surgeries, different providers, different policies, different approaches to dealing with pain and who pays. At 72, it gets harder everyday to get off the recliner. My therapist is my age. Since the pandemic we talk on laptops. It's a waste of time but goes with the expectations of my pain management group. Over time where the worst pain comes from has changed. Currently it's my spine and shoulder. Shoulder needs replacement, I've been told. I just treasure a day with nothing to do. This morning I had a PSA recheck. One of the few things that hasn't been an issue yet. As I look out the back doors I see the backyard changing, leaves will be falling and I don't know if I can handle them anymore. Since I started this note my jaw began tightening and making crunching sounds when I move it. Oh well, it could be worse. I just wish we could opt out of political ads.
What you and I need Woojr, is the warm therapy pool that I used to go to several times a week. It was heavenly.
Free swim! We did our exercises and used the pool noodles or whatever we wanted. There was a corner with jets but those actually hurt so i rarely used it. All the medication in the world did not help as much as the pool. Also, it was great because there were other people who had similar or worse issues than me (well, you know what i mean) and it was a nice group to commiserate with. We talked about our doctors 🙂 and all kinds of stuff.
I am sorry you're having more pain. The jaw problem perhaps i can shed light on? i had jaw joint replacement surgery several years ago at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN. I had jaw/ear pain for probably 15 years before it was finally figured out (oh it's migraines, blah blah TMJ blah blah :)) it's a long saga. Have you read War and Peace? But the surgery saved my life. I would encourage you to find out what it is and don't let anyone deter you. My dentist did not know, the neurologist was unable to open the MRI that he had ordered (yes, another story) but not at Mayo btw. I persisted. You can't stay in your chair, we need you up and around 🙂
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2 ReactionsFor aqua therapy to work you have to be comfortable in the water. I am PETRIFIED of water. I grew up on a farm where there was a gravel pit and my mother preached for years to stay away from the water because I could drown. The nearest pool was 50 miles away so I couldn't take swimming lessons. I tried to learn to swim as an adult but would get panic attacks so I still don't swim. Yes, water therapy is good for most people but not me. Doctors have suggested it for me but I can't do it.
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1 ReactionI'm sure it's very difficult. And for you to get others to actually understand as well. I did know someone else with the same issue, i think? As a child she was pushed into a pool by other kids and was so frightened by the experience that she never wanted to be in the water again.
The pool I went to was not deep though, it was about chest high at the deepest end. It was designed for therapy. They had a canvas lift chair for the residents (it was at a community residential facility) so that the elderly could be lowered in and then two aides could help with exercises and movement. There was a long two way ramp for anyone who needed assistance walking into the water. So it was not your regular pool. Bars all around the edges, etc. We used them to do our leg exercises. Sometimes we just walked back and forth because it was so shallow (like knee-high) Quite a few people had knee or hip replacements and it was a great alternative to the hospital pools which are tiny and just not as pleasant. This pool had floor to ceiling windows and we would watch the snow outside 🙂
Perhaps something occurred in your mother's life that made her leery of water? It's hard to know. I remember when i was younger that i could climb up those towers in parks to overlook the scenery, but no more. I think my brain changed and i can't do it now. It's not fear but it's some kind of imbalance feeling. I wish i could do it because i would love to look over the landscape. I have been climbing ladders recently to do some painting though without any problem but that's different.. i guess.
All the best to you.
Aqua therapy does not require for you to swim...
I am a poor swimmer myself...
I had aqua therapy. The pool was not deep. The exercises are movements you do in the water while walking etc.
So maybe you could reconsider?
It is the only PT I enjoyed... and more effective than other types.
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1 ReactionThe motto in the medical research, etc. is not to come up with a cure, but to hype an often useless treatment. How often have we heard that a cancer cure was just around the corner and many decades later, still waiting.
Over twenty years ago I installed a hot tub. It was outside but I used it from April to Nov. It wore out a couple years before the pandemic. As far as the jaw I had all the tests and opinions from dental and specialist five years ago. Stress. I was okay last year but I've had other health issues as well as trying to keep up with my not so cooperative 95 yo mother. She's truly a very stressful aspect of my life. She's online a lot and believes everything is true online. Think about that combo.