Hearing aids in but still not understanding words

Posted by lesmelbourne @lesmelbourne, Apr 16, 2023

I'm trialing advanced Phonak hearing aids that amplify beyond 2KHz tailored to my hearing chart, but still have trouble understanding some words. Subjectively, I feel there is no discernible improvement in understanding, or only minimal improvement. Who else still has trouble understanding words and why is this so?

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@julieo4

Thank you Mike. People get frustrated with HLAA because they have no idea how hard the organization works on these issues. If more people would start HLAA chapters, push advocacy, make sure they understand the process, etc. it would make a difference. Unfortunately, the huge majority of our population don't want to get involved. Sad, but true.
Love this quote: I just used it in the HLAA Chapter newsletter I publish.

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
Martin Luther King, …

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Julie the time has come for HLAA to engage with AARP. I am at a loss why the majority of seniors with hearing loss continue to remain silent.
HLAA means well but if we don’t have people speak up nothing will happen.
If everyone on this site contacts their congressional leaders in Washington and contacts AARP maybe something will finally. Until then we only have ourselves to blame.
I like the quote you cited.
Let’s at least get the people on the site to do something.

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I serve as a 'mentor' on Mayo Clinic Connect. I'm a long-time member of HLAA.

Advocating and mentoring are very different things.

How do you know that HLAA is not engaging with AARP?

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@julieo4

Thank you for sharing that. Do you use a neckloop with it? How does it connect?

I used direct audio input with my Phonak hearing aids back in the 90s. It was simple to use and it helped immensely. It looked like a black cigarette and plugged into my hearing aid with a cord. Yup, it showed. In the early 2000s along came a wireless mike that also worked well. I was teaching then and used it all the time. It was not yet BlueTooth.

Then came the Roger Microphone, which has been upgraded a few times.

I have to say that back in the day much of this equipment worked as well as some of the tech used today. It was much simpler to use than some devices today that use Bluetooth and require cell phones to control.

I have been getting quite a bit of feedback from seniors who are frustrated with all the bells and whistles that require some training to use now. Training that they are not getting from their providers. 'Stuff', if they have it, is sitting in boxes on dressers.

Hard to say it worked as well in the old days but it did and was less confusing and much easier to use. It showed when we were using it. Today there is such a focus on making hearing loss invisible, which just promotes the age-old stigmas that surround poor hearing. 🙁

So good to hear this old technology is working for you.

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I have insurance to purchase a new hearings but I prefer my old Phonak Behind-the- Ear hearing aids. I wear one in each ear. One of them died and will be going to my audiologist for repair. I am 88 years old and not in favor of the new hearing aids with all their bell and whistles. I also suggest folks with hearing loss join the Hearing Loss Association of America. (HLAA). They have a yearly convention and it is worth attending.
Hermine Willey

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nobody has ever explained to me why my williams pocket hearing assistant sounds clearer / more understandable than my octicon hraring aids?????????????????????? just wondering.

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@julieo4

I serve as a 'mentor' on Mayo Clinic Connect. I'm a long-time member of HLAA.

Advocating and mentoring are very different things.

How do you know that HLAA is not engaging with AARP?

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I am making that assumption after talking with a gentleman who works at their Washington DC headquarters who told me they have 15 people working out of that office with maybe five lobbyists.
There are millions of AARP members across the country and yet every time I get their bulletin or magazine I never see anything regarding hearing loss.
As I said I will go to HLAA local chapter this month and sign up. That being said the gentleman in DC said it is more important to write to my Congressional representatives.
Where does AARP stand on this issue? Why aren’t they fighting for all of us suffering from a disabling disability every day.
As I said technology is out there and yet we are paying for overpriced hearing aids. Something doesn’t seem right to me. Why doesn’t Medicare pay for hearing aids and negotiate directly with the major hearing aid manufacturers. I guess the hearing aid companies have very powerful lobbyists just like the pharmaceutical companies.
I would love to be proven wrong regarding AARP’s efforts on our behalf.

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@daveshaw

I am making that assumption after talking with a gentleman who works at their Washington DC headquarters who told me they have 15 people working out of that office with maybe five lobbyists.
There are millions of AARP members across the country and yet every time I get their bulletin or magazine I never see anything regarding hearing loss.
As I said I will go to HLAA local chapter this month and sign up. That being said the gentleman in DC said it is more important to write to my Congressional representatives.
Where does AARP stand on this issue? Why aren’t they fighting for all of us suffering from a disabling disability every day.
As I said technology is out there and yet we are paying for overpriced hearing aids. Something doesn’t seem right to me. Why doesn’t Medicare pay for hearing aids and negotiate directly with the major hearing aid manufacturers. I guess the hearing aid companies have very powerful lobbyists just like the pharmaceutical companies.
I would love to be proven wrong regarding AARP’s efforts on our behalf.

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Please personal message me. I may be able to explain some of this more clearly. I tried to send you a PM but it would not go through.

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@awilst

nobody has ever explained to me why my williams pocket hearing assistant sounds clearer / more understandable than my octicon hraring aids?????????????????????? just wondering.

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I think you may have a Williams Pocketalker? Great accessory.

Pocketalker: You can move the microphone closer to someone and pickup their voice. all pitches are amplified - no customization for your hearing loss (eg customized pitches for a high-frequency loss)

Hearing aids: You can also move closer to someone (eg getting the microphones in your hearing aids closer to the person). Or you can change programs, such as noisy environment or forward focus. Hearing aids are customized for your hearing loss (adjusted for high-frequecy loss).

Depending on your hearing aids, you can also buy an external remote microphone accessory that can clip on the person who is speaking to you. That helps to capture the sound.

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@julieo4

Please personal message me. I may be able to explain some of this more clearly. I tried to send you a PM but it would not go through.

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I look forward to hearing from you.

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@hedgerow

I think you may have a Williams Pocketalker? Great accessory.

Pocketalker: You can move the microphone closer to someone and pickup their voice. all pitches are amplified - no customization for your hearing loss (eg customized pitches for a high-frequency loss)

Hearing aids: You can also move closer to someone (eg getting the microphones in your hearing aids closer to the person). Or you can change programs, such as noisy environment or forward focus. Hearing aids are customized for your hearing loss (adjusted for high-frequecy loss).

Depending on your hearing aids, you can also buy an external remote microphone accessory that can clip on the person who is speaking to you. That helps to capture the sound.

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The key here is bringing sound direct to your hearing aids, which is what the Pocket Talker does whether you are using it with ear phones of with a neckloop connected to your hearing aid's telecoil components. If the sound you wish to hear, whether it's a speaker or a sound from elsewhere, comes directly to you from the Pocket Talker's microphone as it bypasses the other sounds in the room. That is referred to as the signal to noise ratio (SNR). We all know that background noise makes hearing difficult. In short, the closer the microphone is to the sound you want to hear, the less background noise can interfere, and the more clearly you will hear.

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@hedgerow

I think you may have a Williams Pocketalker? Great accessory.

Pocketalker: You can move the microphone closer to someone and pickup their voice. all pitches are amplified - no customization for your hearing loss (eg customized pitches for a high-frequency loss)

Hearing aids: You can also move closer to someone (eg getting the microphones in your hearing aids closer to the person). Or you can change programs, such as noisy environment or forward focus. Hearing aids are customized for your hearing loss (adjusted for high-frequecy loss).

Depending on your hearing aids, you can also buy an external remote microphone accessory that can clip on the person who is speaking to you. That helps to capture the sound.

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I use a Williams Pocketalker to listen to the TV. I attach the microphone where the TV speaker is and use 20 ft extension cord to my Pocketalker. I also use a headset attached to the Pocketalker along with captioning on the TV program. Using only my hearing aids listening TV is not loud enough. This is why one should join the Hearing Loss Association of America (HLAA), The Pocketalker has a volume control and a control for sounds.

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