in reply to @dimbulb I know you were just being comical which I appreciate. I was just being funny back to you. We all need a bit more laughter in our lives. Sometimes it helps relieve the pain for awhile. Laughter is the best medicine. I can bring my toes in the direction of my knees & nose. I will try it when I get the next cramp. If I stay hydrated I don't get bothered by those awful cramps. I did try my friends recipe for cramps again apparently it does work for me. Drink 1/4 to 1/2 cup pickle juice from your pickle jar in your frig.. If you like pickles. I like the Bread & Butter Pickles. Keep your funny personality & share it with others. Regards, boomarang