Interesting............Dr. Woodrum said he same to me. Seems in real time he can transition from TULSA-PRO to cryo and still utilize in bore MRI to guide the cryo technology.
Hey embee, Did you have a Decipher score? I think that result would affect the choice of treatment. I don’t know the statistical outcomes of Cryo vs surgery vs Cyberknife.
I only know one person who had it done by a very well known TopDoc in NY and his result was not good - perhaps his cancer was of the genetically more aggressive type. But 5 yrs ago there was no Decipher test so who knows?
Personally, I am a cautious person and I would want to know for certain what kind of PCa I was dealing with before making any treatment decisions. Best of luck to you!
It was my first and only treatment. I had one small cancer spot on my prostate. I am 73 years old and chose Cryoblation instead of surgery or radiation treatment. First follow up was good. I can only hope that it works out.
Hi everyone,
My partner has just been diagnosed with 3+4=7 with his PSA 9
He wants to go down the route of cryoblation, just reading through everyone's journey, and wishing you all well.. I have been researching for a few days now but the information is very vague. Has anyone here heard of Ivermectin and how to take it and how effective it is please? Every where I look the info seems to be shut down. Can anyone give me a direct link to talking to anyone about this please.
Thanks heaps ❤️
Hi everyone,
My partner has just been diagnosed with 3+4=7 with his PSA 9
He wants to go down the route of cryoblation, just reading through everyone's journey, and wishing you all well.. I have been researching for a few days now but the information is very vague. Has anyone here heard of Ivermectin and how to take it and how effective it is please? Every where I look the info seems to be shut down. Can anyone give me a direct link to talking to anyone about this please.
Thanks heaps ❤️
@lorna72, welcome. I'm sorry to hear that your partner has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. He is lucky to have you to help him research his options and to support him on this journey.
Ivermectin is not a proven or effective treatment for prostate cancer, at least not yet. It is being research in mice and in laboratories and may hold promise in the future. Because of that promise, it is talked about on social media and in the media, and members like you have questions. See this related discussion:
Bottom line: It is NOT safe to take ivermectin used in veterinary medicine. You and your partner should talk to his doctor before taking any over-the-counter medications or supplements that claim to fight or cure cancer.
Deciding on a treatment option for prostate cancer is really tough. Luckily there are proven and effective treatments available. What options has the team discussed with you and your partner?
Hi everyone,
My partner has just been diagnosed with 3+4=7 with his PSA 9
He wants to go down the route of cryoblation, just reading through everyone's journey, and wishing you all well.. I have been researching for a few days now but the information is very vague. Has anyone here heard of Ivermectin and how to take it and how effective it is please? Every where I look the info seems to be shut down. Can anyone give me a direct link to talking to anyone about this please.
Thanks heaps ❤️
No lorna, that's the last resort, oK? That's when ALL else fails and you are desperate. Conventional treatment far outpaces any holistic, homeopathic or other type of treatment by MILES. It's not even known how much worm poison a human can safely take, let alone how much is needed to kill cancer - IF that was even possible. A Gleason 3+4 really has to be addressed. I would suggest a Decipher score to see how aggressive it is and take it from there.....JMHO.
Cryoablation is one of the several 'focal treatments' used to treat prostate cancer that is completely contained in the prostate and has not spread. The idea is to use one of these methods to kill the tumor without the need for removal or radiation.
I received an ablation treatment known as Irreversible Electroporation (IRE). Here is some thoughts from my experience, which I have previously shared on Mayo Clinic Connect.
1) If you’ve had a biopsy, request a decipher test on the tissue from your biopsy. This is a step beyond the Gleason score and helps determine how aggressive your cancer is.
2) Give thought to getting a second opinion from a Cancer Center of Excellence. Here's a link: https://www.cancer.gov/research/infrastructure/cancer-centers/find
3) If your tumor(s) are contained within the prostate, focal treatment is something to look in to. These treatments use a variety of ways to ablate (kill) the tumor(s) without removal or radiation. Look up things like HIFU, cryotherapy, Irreversible Electroporation (IRE), and others. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/focal-therapy-for-prostate-cancer
My PSA score that got the urologist's attention was 4.25. A follow-up MRI indicated two tumors, both contained within the prostate, and both with a PI-RADS of 4. My biopsy showed a Gleason score of 3+4=7 (intermediate risk, favorable) and my decipher results indicated low risk, making me a candidate for active surveillance or focal therapy. I chose focal treatment because one of the tumors was abutting the edge of the prostate. I had the IRE treatment in January 2024 at the Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa. After the treatment, I had some relatively mild incontinence which has mostly cleared up. I also had some blood in my urine for about six weeks after the treatment, but that has totally cleared up. My sexual function is unchanged from before the treatment.
In August, my PSA was down to 1.95. The follow up multiparametric MRI (mpMRI), done the same day, showed “post ablation changes of the prostate with no new recurrent tumor in the treatment area and no new suspicious lesions in the prostate”. My doctor said that later, if there is an indication that cancer has returned, I can consider an additional IRE treatment, removal or radiation.
Focal treatment is definitely not for everyone, but with the proper set of circumstances, it would be an alternative worth considering.
Best wishes for a great outcome for whatever treatment you decide upon.
Hello Embee, I did have the Cryotherapy a year ago now. Just got back from my 6 month check up. Everything is wonderful so far. PSA is way down from 16 to a 2 something. No signs of any Cancer so far. know everyone is different but I am so glad my wife did some research and Idiscovered the Cryo treatment at Mayo.
Hello Embee, I did have the Cryotherapy a year ago now. Just got back from my 6 month check up. Everything is wonderful so far. PSA is way down from 16 to a 2 something. No signs of any Cancer so far. know everyone is different but I am so glad my wife did some research and Idiscovered the Cryo treatment at Mayo.
Hello rjcoach. That is great news and thanks for sharing it. I did receive the cryo in Edmonton, Canada 2-1/2 weeks ago. The procedure went very well according to the doctor. Some blood in the urine, very tender around the perineum area. Otherwise, no problems voiding at this time. My first followup with the doctor will be Nov 22 at the 1-1/2 month mark. Did you have a full gland ablation or a hemi-gland (one side of prostate only). Mine was all contained in the left gland only and I had a PSA-Pet scan that verified it was contained to the left gland only. I am really glad to hear that there appears to be no cancer.
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Interesting............Dr. Woodrum said he same to me. Seems in real time he can transition from TULSA-PRO to cryo and still utilize in bore MRI to guide the cryo technology.
Exactly. I didn’t need any cryo but he was prepared to do it.
Hey embee, Did you have a Decipher score? I think that result would affect the choice of treatment. I don’t know the statistical outcomes of Cryo vs surgery vs Cyberknife.
I only know one person who had it done by a very well known TopDoc in NY and his result was not good - perhaps his cancer was of the genetically more aggressive type. But 5 yrs ago there was no Decipher test so who knows?
Personally, I am a cautious person and I would want to know for certain what kind of PCa I was dealing with before making any treatment decisions. Best of luck to you!
It was my first and only treatment. I had one small cancer spot on my prostate. I am 73 years old and chose Cryoblation instead of surgery or radiation treatment. First follow up was good. I can only hope that it works out.
Hi everyone,
My partner has just been diagnosed with 3+4=7 with his PSA 9
He wants to go down the route of cryoblation, just reading through everyone's journey, and wishing you all well.. I have been researching for a few days now but the information is very vague. Has anyone here heard of Ivermectin and how to take it and how effective it is please? Every where I look the info seems to be shut down. Can anyone give me a direct link to talking to anyone about this please.
Thanks heaps ❤️
@lorna72, welcome. I'm sorry to hear that your partner has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. He is lucky to have you to help him research his options and to support him on this journey.
Ivermectin is not a proven or effective treatment for prostate cancer, at least not yet. It is being research in mice and in laboratories and may hold promise in the future. Because of that promise, it is talked about on social media and in the media, and members like you have questions. See this related discussion:
- Ivermectin for Prostate Cancer? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/ivermectin-for-prostate-cancer/
Bottom line: It is NOT safe to take ivermectin used in veterinary medicine. You and your partner should talk to his doctor before taking any over-the-counter medications or supplements that claim to fight or cure cancer.
Deciding on a treatment option for prostate cancer is really tough. Luckily there are proven and effective treatments available. What options has the team discussed with you and your partner?
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5 ReactionsNo lorna, that's the last resort, oK? That's when ALL else fails and you are desperate. Conventional treatment far outpaces any holistic, homeopathic or other type of treatment by MILES. It's not even known how much worm poison a human can safely take, let alone how much is needed to kill cancer - IF that was even possible. A Gleason 3+4 really has to be addressed. I would suggest a Decipher score to see how aggressive it is and take it from there.....JMHO.
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2 ReactionsCryoablation is one of the several 'focal treatments' used to treat prostate cancer that is completely contained in the prostate and has not spread. The idea is to use one of these methods to kill the tumor without the need for removal or radiation.
I received an ablation treatment known as Irreversible Electroporation (IRE). Here is some thoughts from my experience, which I have previously shared on Mayo Clinic Connect.
1) If you’ve had a biopsy, request a decipher test on the tissue from your biopsy. This is a step beyond the Gleason score and helps determine how aggressive your cancer is.
2) Give thought to getting a second opinion from a Cancer Center of Excellence. Here's a link:
https://www.cancer.gov/research/infrastructure/cancer-centers/find
3) If your tumor(s) are contained within the prostate, focal treatment is something to look in to. These treatments use a variety of ways to ablate (kill) the tumor(s) without removal or radiation. Look up things like HIFU, cryotherapy, Irreversible Electroporation (IRE), and others.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/focal-therapy-for-prostate-cancer
My PSA score that got the urologist's attention was 4.25. A follow-up MRI indicated two tumors, both contained within the prostate, and both with a PI-RADS of 4. My biopsy showed a Gleason score of 3+4=7 (intermediate risk, favorable) and my decipher results indicated low risk, making me a candidate for active surveillance or focal therapy. I chose focal treatment because one of the tumors was abutting the edge of the prostate. I had the IRE treatment in January 2024 at the Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa. After the treatment, I had some relatively mild incontinence which has mostly cleared up. I also had some blood in my urine for about six weeks after the treatment, but that has totally cleared up. My sexual function is unchanged from before the treatment.
In August, my PSA was down to 1.95. The follow up multiparametric MRI (mpMRI), done the same day, showed “post ablation changes of the prostate with no new recurrent tumor in the treatment area and no new suspicious lesions in the prostate”. My doctor said that later, if there is an indication that cancer has returned, I can consider an additional IRE treatment, removal or radiation.
Focal treatment is definitely not for everyone, but with the proper set of circumstances, it would be an alternative worth considering.
Best wishes for a great outcome for whatever treatment you decide upon.
Hello Embee, I did have the Cryotherapy a year ago now. Just got back from my 6 month check up. Everything is wonderful so far. PSA is way down from 16 to a 2 something. No signs of any Cancer so far. know everyone is different but I am so glad my wife did some research and Idiscovered the Cryo treatment at Mayo.
Hello rjcoach. That is great news and thanks for sharing it. I did receive the cryo in Edmonton, Canada 2-1/2 weeks ago. The procedure went very well according to the doctor. Some blood in the urine, very tender around the perineum area. Otherwise, no problems voiding at this time. My first followup with the doctor will be Nov 22 at the 1-1/2 month mark. Did you have a full gland ablation or a hemi-gland (one side of prostate only). Mine was all contained in the left gland only and I had a PSA-Pet scan that verified it was contained to the left gland only. I am really glad to hear that there appears to be no cancer.