Rectal Probiotics

Posted by moudsie80 @moudsie80, Aug 15 5:52pm

I have 3/4 of my stomach removed due to an ulcer and then got Dumping Syndrome--then had my gall bladder removed and wound up with Malabsorption Syndrome--lost 35-40 lbs. Put back about 8 but after I eat I have nausea for about an hour after at least two meals. My bro suggested rectal probiotics, which seemed to help a lot with the nausea and I put on 2 pounds but I now have a burning in my stomach after 2 days (I do 2 days on--1 day off) and nausea after lunch. I am wondering if anyone else has had issues with these and how they handled it. Also wondering if I can use just half the capsule every other day if that would work and not cause upset/burning stomach. Hoping to hear from others but sorry if you have the same issues. thanks.

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Welcome @moudsie80, I had not heard of using a rectal probiotic. I wasn't able to find anyone who mentioned using a rectal probiotic by my search of Connect. I did find some information on the topic while you wait for members with experience to respond.
-- Probiotic Enema: Benefits, Research, Risks, and Instructions:
https://www.healthline.com/health/probiotic-enema
I think I would be a little worried about the burning followed by nausea after lunch. Have you discussed the new symptoms with your doctor?

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@johnbishop

Welcome @moudsie80, I had not heard of using a rectal probiotic. I wasn't able to find anyone who mentioned using a rectal probiotic by my search of Connect. I did find some information on the topic while you wait for members with experience to respond.
-- Probiotic Enema: Benefits, Research, Risks, and Instructions:
https://www.healthline.com/health/probiotic-enema
I think I would be a little worried about the burning followed by nausea after lunch. Have you discussed the new symptoms with your doctor?

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the burning was about 3-4 hours after I ate--could be I was just hungry and this is how it manifested itself. It's gone now--was gone after I ate. this is new to me and I'm just getting used to it. It's not an enema--it's a suppository. It did help the nausea after eating breakfast (my biggest meal) and after dinner. Thanks for the help and reply.

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moudsie80,
I have tons of stuff wrong in my GI/Colon. I had to use a suppository for extremely violent morning sickness, wow, that was 45 years ago, I am just an old lady now. The suppository did burn some, so I coated it with Vaseline, that really helped. You mentioned splitting your "capsule " in half. I have been told never to open up a capsule before taking it. The capsule needs to stay in tact, in order to survive the gastric juices/enzymes that are released when we put anything in our mouths. I don't know what medication you are taking but:
Can you get it in lower doses or get it in tablets that can be broken in half? I have no clue if this could soothe your stomach, but when mine burns for a multitude of reasons, I make a small hot chocolate drink. I use the vanilla and chocolate protein premixed cartons at Costco. I go light on the chocolate portion. It's really soothing.
Now for your laugh of the day... I read your title as Rectal Robotics and made an audible UGGHHH groan.😳
ShelleyW

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@shelleyw

moudsie80,
I have tons of stuff wrong in my GI/Colon. I had to use a suppository for extremely violent morning sickness, wow, that was 45 years ago, I am just an old lady now. The suppository did burn some, so I coated it with Vaseline, that really helped. You mentioned splitting your "capsule " in half. I have been told never to open up a capsule before taking it. The capsule needs to stay in tact, in order to survive the gastric juices/enzymes that are released when we put anything in our mouths. I don't know what medication you are taking but:
Can you get it in lower doses or get it in tablets that can be broken in half? I have no clue if this could soothe your stomach, but when mine burns for a multitude of reasons, I make a small hot chocolate drink. I use the vanilla and chocolate protein premixed cartons at Costco. I go light on the chocolate portion. It's really soothing.
Now for your laugh of the day... I read your title as Rectal Robotics and made an audible UGGHHH groan.😳
ShelleyW

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I hear you on stomach things--mine started with ulcers and that's how I had to have 3/4's of my stomach removed and then the gall bladder removal. I should have said suppository--not capsule -- but sometimes I just can't think of the right word (I too am old--80). I thought of cutting the that in half--but when I take them out of the freezer I have like 2 minutes to get it out of the package and into where it goes as it starts to melt. The burning was in my stomach and I popped a omeprazole and ate and felt much better so I guess I just have to let my system get used to it.

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@moudsie80

I hear you on stomach things--mine started with ulcers and that's how I had to have 3/4's of my stomach removed and then the gall bladder removal. I should have said suppository--not capsule -- but sometimes I just can't think of the right word (I too am old--80). I thought of cutting the that in half--but when I take them out of the freezer I have like 2 minutes to get it out of the package and into where it goes as it starts to melt. The burning was in my stomach and I popped a omeprazole and ate and felt much better so I guess I just have to let my system get used to it.

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Sorry to hear that you are having issues like this. I am on Creon due to my pancreas not creating enough enzymes, and both the disorder and medicine resulted in occasional severe IBS issues of both diarrhea and constipation. I tried some over the counter probiotics in pill form, as it allegedly helped someone I know that is also on Creon.
May I ask what kind of probiotics you take as a suppository? And was this through a prescription from a doctor, or did you decide to do this as suggested by someone else?

I hope this is not too nosey, I am just concerned to have so many issues with nutrition since my late 40s, and I am 54 now. Hopefully I can get a better grip on the symptoms in order to stay healthier as I age, and I am open to trying something so long as it doesn't exacerbate my IBS issues.

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@creondave

Sorry to hear that you are having issues like this. I am on Creon due to my pancreas not creating enough enzymes, and both the disorder and medicine resulted in occasional severe IBS issues of both diarrhea and constipation. I tried some over the counter probiotics in pill form, as it allegedly helped someone I know that is also on Creon.
May I ask what kind of probiotics you take as a suppository? And was this through a prescription from a doctor, or did you decide to do this as suggested by someone else?

I hope this is not too nosey, I am just concerned to have so many issues with nutrition since my late 40s, and I am 54 now. Hopefully I can get a better grip on the symptoms in order to stay healthier as I age, and I am open to trying something so long as it doesn't exacerbate my IBS issues.

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I am using up the Creon and take the OTC (actually on line) pancreatic enzymes by Vital and the rectal (that's what they are!) probiotics I got from bumbiotics (apparently I can't give you the link but put in bumbiotics and they are in CA. The nausea from the dumping thing has diminished and/or stopped and I put on few pounds. My bro was diagnosed with Chrones and given prescribed meds. He hates taking those and just about cured himself with the probiotics and an herb he takes (I can't think of the name of it, ,but he makes a paste (it tastes awful to me and I can't stand it). So he gave me the site for the probiotics. They are pricey--$90 I think for a months' supply plus $15 shipping--they come 2 days Fed Ex with an ice pack--they have to be kept in the freezer. Note: if money is an issue--send an email and you might get a code for 20- or 30% off (my total was $78 for everything. I have found that 2 days on and 1 day off for me works for now. I am 80 and tip the scales at 79 (I know--it only took 8 short years to figure out the malabsorption thing) food was just going right through me due to dumping--now it stays there longer with the creon/OTC and the probiotics. Good luck--might be worth a try.

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@creondave

Sorry to hear that you are having issues like this. I am on Creon due to my pancreas not creating enough enzymes, and both the disorder and medicine resulted in occasional severe IBS issues of both diarrhea and constipation. I tried some over the counter probiotics in pill form, as it allegedly helped someone I know that is also on Creon.
May I ask what kind of probiotics you take as a suppository? And was this through a prescription from a doctor, or did you decide to do this as suggested by someone else?

I hope this is not too nosey, I am just concerned to have so many issues with nutrition since my late 40s, and I am 54 now. Hopefully I can get a better grip on the symptoms in order to stay healthier as I age, and I am open to trying something so long as it doesn't exacerbate my IBS issues.

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Creondave,

What tests did you have to diagnose enzyme issues? Are they pancreatic enzymes? OOPS!! I just re-read your post and you stated it's pancreatic enzymes. I just found out that I have partially fatty infiltrated pancreas, from a report of a CT w/contrast. No dr bothered to tell me anything. My endocrinologist, dealing with Hyperparathyroidism, incidentally saw it, tested my insulin blood levels and stated that my pancreas was fine. In your experience, is this enough to know that all of the other pancreatic enzymes are fine
Thanx, ShelleyW
. 😱 can this affect your brain? You can stop lol at me now 🤯 I am jk.
Have you tried or heard anything about the new probiotic SEED,that is being widely advertised now?

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@shelleyw

Creondave,

What tests did you have to diagnose enzyme issues? Are they pancreatic enzymes? OOPS!! I just re-read your post and you stated it's pancreatic enzymes. I just found out that I have partially fatty infiltrated pancreas, from a report of a CT w/contrast. No dr bothered to tell me anything. My endocrinologist, dealing with Hyperparathyroidism, incidentally saw it, tested my insulin blood levels and stated that my pancreas was fine. In your experience, is this enough to know that all of the other pancreatic enzymes are fine
Thanx, ShelleyW
. 😱 can this affect your brain? You can stop lol at me now 🤯 I am jk.
Have you tried or heard anything about the new probiotic SEED,that is being widely advertised now?

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Didn't have a test--the MD just knew and the meds helped me put on weight--mine was due to two abdominal surgeries. I haven't heard of SEED--what is it?

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@shelleyw

Creondave,

What tests did you have to diagnose enzyme issues? Are they pancreatic enzymes? OOPS!! I just re-read your post and you stated it's pancreatic enzymes. I just found out that I have partially fatty infiltrated pancreas, from a report of a CT w/contrast. No dr bothered to tell me anything. My endocrinologist, dealing with Hyperparathyroidism, incidentally saw it, tested my insulin blood levels and stated that my pancreas was fine. In your experience, is this enough to know that all of the other pancreatic enzymes are fine
Thanx, ShelleyW
. 😱 can this affect your brain? You can stop lol at me now 🤯 I am jk.
Have you tried or heard anything about the new probiotic SEED,that is being widely advertised now?

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"No dr bothered to tell me anything. " Wow that's rough.

I had the fecal elastase-1 or FE-1 test. I repeated it and with all the symptoms (increasingly difficult to control diarrhea, gas, weight loss, weakness), it made sense that I had EPI. Other scans pulled out a tumor, other blockage, or pancreatic cancer.

I am not sure of the connection between insulin blood levels and EPI, but I was tested for diabetes and am fine on that front.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have another questions!

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@moudsie80

Didn't have a test--the MD just knew and the meds helped me put on weight--mine was due to two abdominal surgeries. I haven't heard of SEED--what is it?

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moudsie80, I first saw it online, then TV, then someone here, said to look for the green container on Amazon. I have not done it yet, but if it does what it says... it survives the stomach acids, ect and makes it all the way through your intestinal tract. I think it's kinda expensive, but so is going to the dumb doctor. ShelleyW

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