Husband with AML facing a stem cell transplant

Posted by mary612 @mary612, Mar 15 7:05am

Hello!
My husband was diagnosed with secondary AML with 2 high risk mutations in January. The prognosis is not good. He is being treated at Northwestern medicine in Chicago. He is responding to the treatment after the first cycle but not full remission yet. They are recommending a stem cell transplant. I’m full of all the feelings! Scared, but trying to trust that my faith will get us through this.
My question is related to caregiver support after the transplant when he is discharged home. We don’t have a lot of family or big social circle nearby.
Any tips on the types of things we should start thinking about in order to give me and my husband the support we will need?
I found this group through the very hopeful messages of @loribmt. Thank you for your positive messages of hope!
Wishing everyone here only the best outcomes and graces!

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@loribmt

Hi Mary! So sorry to hear about the nausea still hanging around. Some patients are really lucky and it’s not much of an issue and then again, there are some of us who didn’t win that lottery ticket!
Every BMT patient has their own rate with recovery and progress because each has a unique set of extenuating circumstances which led them to requiring the transplant in the first place. Some of us have had many months of chemo cycles for aggressive blood cancers previous to the transplant. Others are fortunate enough to only have pre-transplant conditioning and so their bodies haven’t faced as much trauma. As much as the chemistry helps us, it does take its toll. And of course, the medical condition for which we’re being treated can also impact the recovery time, along with all the meds and transplant itself. Brain fog can linger for a few months but seemed to clear for me around the same time my stamina grew. I did lots of sudoku and word games, crossword puzzle, etc.

Quite honestly, I think Dane is doing great considering all he’s been through. The lower chimerism number may improve on its own or may see some improvement by the bmbx. Occasionally the transplant doctor will order an infusion of the reserved donor cells which can give the previously transplanted cells a boost. It sounds like everything else is going well except the difficulty in swallowing. But wow, he’s making awesome progress there! He’s thriving and active…that’s what counts! He may not be getting 100% of what is desired as far as nutrition but he’s not suffering from malnutrition. When his swallowing improves and his appetite returns you’ll be amazed at how quickly the pounds and ‘muscle meat’ can return.

If it helps, I also struggled for about 2 months to get down meaningful amounts of protein and foods. Energy was slow to recoup too. I walked daily, tried to lift a few weights (small milk jugs filled with water) and worked with exercise bands to help with muscle mass. It only helped marginally. Once I was able to eat well again and put on more miles walking, it was a more rapid improvement. The anti-nausea meds were with me for quite a while too.

To refresh my memory I just took a look at a couple of my journal entries. At Day 37 I was down to just using sub lingual Zofran before meals and had daily bouts of ‘morning sickness’ that came in waves. Still had my “barf-o-matic” bag with me wherever I went. 😂 I had a cute little carry-bag for my shoulder. In it, besides essentials for the hours at the clinic for infusions, I had my ‘bom’ bag…a large ziplock lined with paper towels…just in case!
By Day 50, I made mention that I no longer had unpredictable nausea but still had some that came on for about 2 minutes after a bowel movement.
Day 60’s entry was a hoot. Apparently it was a big day for me. I had finally tipped the scales at a whopping 50 kilograms! I got high fives from my doctor and his staff! (I had been down to 43 kilos) My taste buds had grown back so I could actually taste food again, nausea had disappeared and there was ‘meat’ being replaced on my bones.

When my strength and stamina returned, my doctor had me check in with PT. The time spend with the therapist really helped me get back in shape with core strength for balance and also get my glutes back. LOL. Literally ‘lost my butt’ during the months of treatment with AML and the transplant. I did walk 4 miles per day during my chemo rounds in the hospital pushing my IV around the bed tower! But it did nothing to keep the booty from looking like deflated sad old party balloons! 😂😂

Anyway, where I’m going with this meandering reply is that you are amazing with wrangling all of Dane’s needs from food/nutrition, to home infusions, meds and outings! You two are an invincible team. It’s not easy when two active people are having limits to their daily normal existence. This is only temporary though! It’s ok to not be ok and to have life slow down. The old proverbial ‘take it day by day’ really rings true. Soon enough this will be a summer in the rear view mirror! Air hugs to both of you!
How’s that new grandson??

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I was not eligible for BMT but hearing about all of you is good to hear that there is so much out there for blood cancers to have a second chance. I was given a second chance with. LTP, and pray my AML will stay in remission with chemo tx.
Blessings to all you fighters 💚😊

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@loribmt

Hi Mary! So sorry to hear about the nausea still hanging around. Some patients are really lucky and it’s not much of an issue and then again, there are some of us who didn’t win that lottery ticket!
Every BMT patient has their own rate with recovery and progress because each has a unique set of extenuating circumstances which led them to requiring the transplant in the first place. Some of us have had many months of chemo cycles for aggressive blood cancers previous to the transplant. Others are fortunate enough to only have pre-transplant conditioning and so their bodies haven’t faced as much trauma. As much as the chemistry helps us, it does take its toll. And of course, the medical condition for which we’re being treated can also impact the recovery time, along with all the meds and transplant itself. Brain fog can linger for a few months but seemed to clear for me around the same time my stamina grew. I did lots of sudoku and word games, crossword puzzle, etc.

Quite honestly, I think Dane is doing great considering all he’s been through. The lower chimerism number may improve on its own or may see some improvement by the bmbx. Occasionally the transplant doctor will order an infusion of the reserved donor cells which can give the previously transplanted cells a boost. It sounds like everything else is going well except the difficulty in swallowing. But wow, he’s making awesome progress there! He’s thriving and active…that’s what counts! He may not be getting 100% of what is desired as far as nutrition but he’s not suffering from malnutrition. When his swallowing improves and his appetite returns you’ll be amazed at how quickly the pounds and ‘muscle meat’ can return.

If it helps, I also struggled for about 2 months to get down meaningful amounts of protein and foods. Energy was slow to recoup too. I walked daily, tried to lift a few weights (small milk jugs filled with water) and worked with exercise bands to help with muscle mass. It only helped marginally. Once I was able to eat well again and put on more miles walking, it was a more rapid improvement. The anti-nausea meds were with me for quite a while too.

To refresh my memory I just took a look at a couple of my journal entries. At Day 37 I was down to just using sub lingual Zofran before meals and had daily bouts of ‘morning sickness’ that came in waves. Still had my “barf-o-matic” bag with me wherever I went. 😂 I had a cute little carry-bag for my shoulder. In it, besides essentials for the hours at the clinic for infusions, I had my ‘bom’ bag…a large ziplock lined with paper towels…just in case!
By Day 50, I made mention that I no longer had unpredictable nausea but still had some that came on for about 2 minutes after a bowel movement.
Day 60’s entry was a hoot. Apparently it was a big day for me. I had finally tipped the scales at a whopping 50 kilograms! I got high fives from my doctor and his staff! (I had been down to 43 kilos) My taste buds had grown back so I could actually taste food again, nausea had disappeared and there was ‘meat’ being replaced on my bones.

When my strength and stamina returned, my doctor had me check in with PT. The time spend with the therapist really helped me get back in shape with core strength for balance and also get my glutes back. LOL. Literally ‘lost my butt’ during the months of treatment with AML and the transplant. I did walk 4 miles per day during my chemo rounds in the hospital pushing my IV around the bed tower! But it did nothing to keep the booty from looking like deflated sad old party balloons! 😂😂

Anyway, where I’m going with this meandering reply is that you are amazing with wrangling all of Dane’s needs from food/nutrition, to home infusions, meds and outings! You two are an invincible team. It’s not easy when two active people are having limits to their daily normal existence. This is only temporary though! It’s ok to not be ok and to have life slow down. The old proverbial ‘take it day by day’ really rings true. Soon enough this will be a summer in the rear view mirror! Air hugs to both of you!
How’s that new grandson??

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Hi @loribmt
Hope all is well!

Today is day 57 for us. Dane is doing well overall, however with lingering fatigue and nausea. He is eating, but neither losing more or gaining weight.
Today’s clinic visit revealed his platelets have gone down to 125,000, which have been slowly declining over the past month. Doc isn’t too concerned with it yet but he is cautious. Latest chimerism test shows 100% on two numbers and 70% on the third number. Hoping it continues to trend upward. These test results lag a couple weeks so we have to be patient with getting updates.
Given the high risk nature of his AML, a bone marrow biopsy is being done today too. So we’ll get all kinds of insight about what’s going on in his blood and marrow by next week, at least preliminarily.

We are scheduled to meet with a new hematologist in early September to discuss recommendations for maintenance chemo going forward. As you may recall, we were not happy with his original hematologist, so hoping we like this one better. But most importantly, I pray we are discussing only positive bone marrow test results. 🙏

That pesky anxiety is starting to do a number on both of us…

Have you heard of platelet counts bouncing around a bit after transplant?
Mary

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@mary612

Hi @loribmt
Hope all is well!

Today is day 57 for us. Dane is doing well overall, however with lingering fatigue and nausea. He is eating, but neither losing more or gaining weight.
Today’s clinic visit revealed his platelets have gone down to 125,000, which have been slowly declining over the past month. Doc isn’t too concerned with it yet but he is cautious. Latest chimerism test shows 100% on two numbers and 70% on the third number. Hoping it continues to trend upward. These test results lag a couple weeks so we have to be patient with getting updates.
Given the high risk nature of his AML, a bone marrow biopsy is being done today too. So we’ll get all kinds of insight about what’s going on in his blood and marrow by next week, at least preliminarily.

We are scheduled to meet with a new hematologist in early September to discuss recommendations for maintenance chemo going forward. As you may recall, we were not happy with his original hematologist, so hoping we like this one better. But most importantly, I pray we are discussing only positive bone marrow test results. 🙏

That pesky anxiety is starting to do a number on both of us…

Have you heard of platelet counts bouncing around a bit after transplant?
Mary

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Hi Mary, Ooo anxiety is a cheeky little devil, isn’t it? Fills our heads with all kinds of negative thoughts! If it’s any comfort, fatigue isn’t uncommon well into many months after transplant. We all recovery at different levels and really, if there is still nausea plaguing Dane, that is a big culprit right there. It’s a stamina robber. I know I improved greatly once I was able to start working my way off the anti-nausea meds. I found that they can slow the normal peristaltic gut action and contribute to the nausea itself. I began relying solely on the sublingual Zofran melts just before eating. Slowly my guts improved. Before that time though, gaining weight was impossible. At least Dane isn’t losing so he’s holding his own right now. That’s an ok balance. He’s also having to limit some of the foods that would help pack on calories such as ice cream because of the mucus it causes. So I think he’s doing the best he can right now…this just takes time.

I checked back on my records. My blood numbers fluctuated from week to week. At day 59 my platelet level flagged as low, down to 144. A week later they were up to 183, only to have dropped again the next week. There’s still a lot of recovery taking place inside Dane’s body! Try not to get too hung up on numbers right now. If his doctor isn’t worried, then you don’t need to be either.

The BMBX will be a good source of information. Pretty sure you’ll be having some ‘scan-xiety’ with waiting on those results. With the one number lower on his chimerism his doctors are making sure things are going well overall with the BMBX. Occasionally if there is one part of the chimerism not at 100% the transplant doctor may consider infusing some of the cells that were held back and frozen after the initial transplant. This ‘recharges’ the immune system to make it a little more aggressive. Similar results can be sometimes be achieved by reducing the amount of the anti-rejection meds which have helped to hold the newly implanted stem cells back a little until. By lowering the tacro trough, they become more aggressive and may help raise that chimerism. Again, we all recover at different levels. His team at Rush is on this! ☺️

Sending positive thoughts your way for a super clean BMBX. I hope the nausea disappears soon! Air hugs to both of you!

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@loribmt

Hi Mary, Ooo anxiety is a cheeky little devil, isn’t it? Fills our heads with all kinds of negative thoughts! If it’s any comfort, fatigue isn’t uncommon well into many months after transplant. We all recovery at different levels and really, if there is still nausea plaguing Dane, that is a big culprit right there. It’s a stamina robber. I know I improved greatly once I was able to start working my way off the anti-nausea meds. I found that they can slow the normal peristaltic gut action and contribute to the nausea itself. I began relying solely on the sublingual Zofran melts just before eating. Slowly my guts improved. Before that time though, gaining weight was impossible. At least Dane isn’t losing so he’s holding his own right now. That’s an ok balance. He’s also having to limit some of the foods that would help pack on calories such as ice cream because of the mucus it causes. So I think he’s doing the best he can right now…this just takes time.

I checked back on my records. My blood numbers fluctuated from week to week. At day 59 my platelet level flagged as low, down to 144. A week later they were up to 183, only to have dropped again the next week. There’s still a lot of recovery taking place inside Dane’s body! Try not to get too hung up on numbers right now. If his doctor isn’t worried, then you don’t need to be either.

The BMBX will be a good source of information. Pretty sure you’ll be having some ‘scan-xiety’ with waiting on those results. With the one number lower on his chimerism his doctors are making sure things are going well overall with the BMBX. Occasionally if there is one part of the chimerism not at 100% the transplant doctor may consider infusing some of the cells that were held back and frozen after the initial transplant. This ‘recharges’ the immune system to make it a little more aggressive. Similar results can be sometimes be achieved by reducing the amount of the anti-rejection meds which have helped to hold the newly implanted stem cells back a little until. By lowering the tacro trough, they become more aggressive and may help raise that chimerism. Again, we all recover at different levels. His team at Rush is on this! ☺️

Sending positive thoughts your way for a super clean BMBX. I hope the nausea disappears soon! Air hugs to both of you!

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Lori,
Your message really hit the spot today for us! Thank you for sharing your platelet experience around this same time in your post transplant experience.
Your reassurance about how the healing process is so unique for every individual is so helpful as well. I agree that as soon as he can get along without the anti nausea meds, his brain will be clearer and his digestive system will start getting functioning better too. Chemo is bad enough on memory, processing, and functioning that it doesn’t help to have it clouded up by those additional meds!

Funny you mentioned the impact that reducing the anti rejection meds can have on chinerism, as they just reduced his Tacro today because it was too high. Hope that helps bring the chimerism results up.

Man, there are so many things to be vigilant about during this process.

Thank you for the positive vibes for a clean BMBX. We are hopeful it’s going to be good news! Your encouragement really goes a long way in helping us have a strong and positive attitude.

Thank you Lori!

Air hugs to you too!

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@mary612

Lori,
Your message really hit the spot today for us! Thank you for sharing your platelet experience around this same time in your post transplant experience.
Your reassurance about how the healing process is so unique for every individual is so helpful as well. I agree that as soon as he can get along without the anti nausea meds, his brain will be clearer and his digestive system will start getting functioning better too. Chemo is bad enough on memory, processing, and functioning that it doesn’t help to have it clouded up by those additional meds!

Funny you mentioned the impact that reducing the anti rejection meds can have on chinerism, as they just reduced his Tacro today because it was too high. Hope that helps bring the chimerism results up.

Man, there are so many things to be vigilant about during this process.

Thank you for the positive vibes for a clean BMBX. We are hopeful it’s going to be good news! Your encouragement really goes a long way in helping us have a strong and positive attitude.

Thank you Lori!

Air hugs to you too!

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Hi Mary, just a thought…Dane’s elevated Tacro level might also be contributing to his nausea and loagy feeling. I experienced more symptoms of lethargy, nausea, hand tremors, jumpiness and weakness when my anti-fungal med was switched from IV to pill form which caused the tacro to be held in my body longer. My tacro level skyrocketed! As soon as tacro intake was changed to a much smaller dosage and the trough level returned to normal I felt considerably better!
It’s my pleasure to be able offer tidbits here and there. While my transplant doctor and team were fantastic, they often admitted that if you haven’t walked the walk, it’s difficult to actually relate one on one with a person. I didn’t have a mentor and realize how important it is to be able to speak with some who has experienced a transplant firsthand.
I’m so happy to see this transplant support group growing just in the few years that I became a mentor here in Connect. There are so many more of us who can share our experiences to help the next set of newbies!
Hang in there…things start evening out and usually by that magical day 100, transplant patients are feeling pretty well back to a level of ‘normalcy’. Hate the term new normal, but for a while, that will be the appropriate sentiment. Eventually most everyone falls a predicable rhythm of life again.

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@mary612

Lori,
Your message really hit the spot today for us! Thank you for sharing your platelet experience around this same time in your post transplant experience.
Your reassurance about how the healing process is so unique for every individual is so helpful as well. I agree that as soon as he can get along without the anti nausea meds, his brain will be clearer and his digestive system will start getting functioning better too. Chemo is bad enough on memory, processing, and functioning that it doesn’t help to have it clouded up by those additional meds!

Funny you mentioned the impact that reducing the anti rejection meds can have on chinerism, as they just reduced his Tacro today because it was too high. Hope that helps bring the chimerism results up.

Man, there are so many things to be vigilant about during this process.

Thank you for the positive vibes for a clean BMBX. We are hopeful it’s going to be good news! Your encouragement really goes a long way in helping us have a strong and positive attitude.

Thank you Lori!

Air hugs to you too!

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Hi Mary and Dane…been pretty quiet from your corner of the world. How’s everything going? How were the results of the BMBX?

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@loribmt

Hi Mary and Dane…been pretty quiet from your corner of the world. How’s everything going? How were the results of the BMBX?

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Hi Lori!

Thanks so much for checking in! The biopsy resulted in “No evidence of disease!” The best news we could have hoped for. The doctor told him that no one knows if a relapse will ever happen, but given this most recent result, Dane should “dare to dream” about his future. He reminded Dane that the BMT is curative and he feels privileged to offer this to his patients when many of his colleagues don’t have this option for their patients.

Today is day 70 and in just the past few days Dane is feeling a little less nauseated and able to cut back on those meds. He’s walking daily too. We even drove out to our lake house 2 hours away for one night this week. That’s a big deal to us! His most recent labs show all stable and his platelets came up to the normal range. Yay!
He is also maintaining magnesium levels and no need for IV Magnesium the past two weeks!

However, amidst all this positive news, he noticed a swelling in his abdomen over the weekend. Turns out he has an inguinal hernia, according to the ultrasound results! Being referred to a surgeon, but we haven’t yet discussed this with his stem cell doctor. I mean, really?? After everything he has been through, this is nothing in comparison, but geez….one more thing to deal with.
So once a surgeon assesses it, we’ll know more about how to mange it in the meantime.

Together we are working on envisioning our future with positive energy and language describing our present and future realities.
One day at a time…

Sending you air hugs!!

Mary and Dane

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Mary and Dane.
I remember in my BC treatment that my right leg appeared swollen and i forgot to show the doctor meeting to check me out. On the way out an RN asked me how it went, and I showed her my leg. She took a picture, went in to show the doctor and within 20 minutes i was in the ETC and being moved to get an ultrasound. 4 months after surgery i had a DVT. Deep vein thrombosis in my right thigh in back. 9 months of blood thinners, 2 more US's and my body finally loosened it a bit so blood was passing and i got off blood thinners. 16 months later and my body is slowly dissolving the clot. I am Day134 past transplant.
Our bodies are mysterious, and lucky the transplant keeps us close to care, so most things get treated ASAP before they spiral down.
Blessings to you both.

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@mary612

Hi Lori!

Thanks so much for checking in! The biopsy resulted in “No evidence of disease!” The best news we could have hoped for. The doctor told him that no one knows if a relapse will ever happen, but given this most recent result, Dane should “dare to dream” about his future. He reminded Dane that the BMT is curative and he feels privileged to offer this to his patients when many of his colleagues don’t have this option for their patients.

Today is day 70 and in just the past few days Dane is feeling a little less nauseated and able to cut back on those meds. He’s walking daily too. We even drove out to our lake house 2 hours away for one night this week. That’s a big deal to us! His most recent labs show all stable and his platelets came up to the normal range. Yay!
He is also maintaining magnesium levels and no need for IV Magnesium the past two weeks!

However, amidst all this positive news, he noticed a swelling in his abdomen over the weekend. Turns out he has an inguinal hernia, according to the ultrasound results! Being referred to a surgeon, but we haven’t yet discussed this with his stem cell doctor. I mean, really?? After everything he has been through, this is nothing in comparison, but geez….one more thing to deal with.
So once a surgeon assesses it, we’ll know more about how to mange it in the meantime.

Together we are working on envisioning our future with positive energy and language describing our present and future realities.
One day at a time…

Sending you air hugs!!

Mary and Dane

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Good morning! The positive news of the BMBX was the boost I think you and Dane both needed right now! I’m so happy to hear there’s no evidence of disease! I definitely know the elation we feel when reading or hearing those words.
Another one I love is, “You’re unremarkable!” Hahaha. Truly, I suffer no insecurity when my doctor tells me I’m unremarkable. We joke about it every time because we all know, I’m anything but! 😂😂. Joking aside, I’m thrilled for your Dane’s good news!
Seeing that he’s at day +71 now, I have a feeling this month will see significant improvements on multiple levels! Just being able to even consider reducing those anti-nausea meds is a huge leap forward. It took me a while after finally being off those to get the normal ‘gut’ rhythm back in sync. Greek yogurt with a teaspoon of ground flax every day helped significantly.
Also, being able to resume some normal activities like going to your lake house for a few days is a real morale booster! I admit freely, I ugly cried when I finally got to return to my happy place at the lake after almost 5 months. Just being in the forest with all the trees, birds and the lake. I felt the power of nature infusing me with life again. I’m not a woo-woo person but for me, nature powerful and healing. This had to feel like a huge step forward for Dane!

Sounds like maybe a teeny step back with the hernia. Hopefully nothing urgent…from my limited experience with family men and a couple of my husband’s friends, their surgeries were minimally invasive and very common. So we’ll go with that, right? And really, in the grand scheme of things after enduring the SCT, your super man will live to fight another day…just not bench pressing his weight or tossing around 80 pound bags of concrete mix! 😅

By the way, I’m Day +1883 today! LOL.
Air hugs all around!! 🤗

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@mary612

Hi @loribmt !
Thank you for the warm and kind message! It brought me to tears. That isn’t hard to do these days. 😊

Thanks so much for the resources as well. Very helpful.

My husband will be in patient for 4-6 weeks at Northwestern for the stem cell transplant. After discharge we will go into the clinic once a week for assessment. The stem cell transplant doctor gave us a very honest explanation of the mortality stats, side effects, etc. He was positive and encouraging as well! Based on what he told us, it’s hard to imagine doing this on an outpatient basis.

After my husband mentioned that he does not drink alcohol anymore (since his bout with cancer 5 years ago) the doctor told him not to discard any old bottles of good rum (my husband used to like a taste of that now and then in the past) because he may want it when he toasts his recovery!

We are coping by trying to stay in the present day as much as possible and not get too far ahead of ourselves with worry about the future.

We are trying to look at this as our ‘adventure’ in healing! He is so strong and I have hope he will make it. Living with all the uncertainty, everything in our life on hold, unable to make plans, is tough sometimes. And every now and then I feel like a rogue wave slams into me and swallows me, leaving me feeling panicked to catch my breath and rise above the water with fear of all the unknowns.

Your positive energy and warmth come through these online pages and I’m grateful I found “your voice.”

Thank you for being so open and sharing your hope with us.

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Good morning! As I mentioned in an earlier post, I have had two transplants. I was hospitalized for only two weeks with my first go around but two months with the second. My husband was my only support person. He was a farmer and was working 14 hours a day planting crops when I was released. Because of this I was on my own much of the time. He was able to take me to doctor appointments and my oldest daughter worked near my pharmacy so she brought prescription to me.

The best advice I is for you both to maintain a positive attitude. This procedure might be challenging but be it can be life saving. My doctor said he wanted me to live to be a very old woman and I believe that wish is coming true. I had my last transplant eleven years ago and thus far I remain cancer free. If you are a spiritual, lean on God to help you through. Ask yourself friends, family, and coworkers to remember you both in their prayers. Be sure to follow the protocol laid out by your doctor prescribe. It is imperative that you refrain from going out in public for eating out. It is not worth the risk of being infected with a communicable disease.
Best of luck to tryou both as you embark on a lifesaving journey !

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