Anxiety during sleep: It wakes me every AM from sleep.

Posted by esikora @esikora, Nov 13, 2021

Hello,
As stated above,every AM at around 5, I start having uncomfortable adrenaline-like waves throughout my body. If I try to sleep, the waves cause weird dreams and then I wake up. This has been going on for about eight months. There has been considerable stress in my life during this time, but now things are improving, but the waves are just as bad.
Has anyone ever experienced this?
Thanks.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Depression & Anxiety Support Group.

Profile picture for 1oldsoul @1oldsoul

Good morning @carolinlv
I thought I would tell you that I consulted with a Naturopathic physician online last year and he told me that as far as sleep medicines go, he believes Trazodone is one of the most benign which also gives the most natural sleep and my past experience with it would reflect that. When I started taking it many years ago because I worked different shifts, I started out at 25 mg which was half a tablet of the lowest dose 50 mg tablet. Most people start out at 50 mg but I have a petite little daughter in law with insomnia and anxiety that started at 200 mg with no side effects! I have just always been sensitive to meds. It worked beautifully and unlike Ambien that I tried, felt like a normal sleep. It is also a very inexpensive medication. I am glad that you have found this online community for support and ideas. My prayers are with you girl. You will get through this and emerge victorious! Check out David Lee “Wu Wei Wisdom” on You Tube. I find him to be wise and compassionate.

Jump to this post

Thank you again for all the help and support! You make me feel more determined than ever to find the best and most effective plan for myself. I too am sensitive to medications. Things that others take with minimal to no side effects can put me in the craziest spin! At least, when something’s not going to work for me, I can tell within a few days because of that sensitivity. I don’t have to take something for months before it makes me weird out. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me so much. As before, I’ll know I’ll be back! Take care.

REPLY

Yes. For years now. I have PTSD, so I also have triggers during the day which throws me into a panic attack. It’s really difficult. Adrenaline running through my body pretty much all the time. I have very vivid dreams, not many good ones. I wake myself up finishing a sentence.

REPLY
Profile picture for carolinlv @carolinlv

Totally forgot to mention… I am very happy you were able to get rid of the bad stuff and find methods that work for you! I can’t imagine what natural sleep must feel like! Thanks again!

Jump to this post

Trazadone made me feel drugged. I have a med I take at night- Zaleplon. No side effects. I also take it about 30-60 min before I go to bed as I wait til I am really tired and sleepy.

REPLY
Profile picture for noteworthy @noteworthy

Trazadone made me feel drugged. I have a med I take at night- Zaleplon. No side effects. I also take it about 30-60 min before I go to bed as I wait til I am really tired and sleepy.

Jump to this post

I will check it out! Thank you!

REPLY

Thank you for sharing your experience. From everything I read, including the information others who take this med have posted, I shouldn’t be worried about the 1 mg maintenance dose. I have a doctor’s appointment in a few weeks and am gathering my pertinent journal notes (yep! I already keep one!) to share with him. Together we should be able to create a workable plan. Unfortunately, I’m a worrier by nature. Praying I don’t go through this only to find out it’s still really needed. I started it years ago to help with anxiety over my work. Well, I’m retired now, so my problems (other than health) are few. I would LOVE to give up meds I don’t need. Maybe my fear is based on actually still needing it and wondering why I’m having a hard time accepting that? So many questions!!

REPLY

I have exactly what you’re talking about and it started during Covid with I couldn’t sleep for 5 days. The anxiety was worst than I ever faced. I thought it was from antibiotics. And I stopped taking them and took a Xanax and finally was able to sleep. After 5 days. Then I started sleeping normal again. I took Xanax for couple days. 3-4 I believe. Half of a .5m dose so hardly anything. Worked for me. I then stated using Benadryl time to time. Everything was going great. Then one day i was prescribed antibiotics again and i started feeling really bloated and anxiety again about sleeping again. Once again stopped meds and took Xanax to sleep. Was ok. Now again having the issue vivid dreams. Several a night waking up like 3-6 times with adrenaline spiked and stomach pain/bloating. I’m not sure if it’s due to gas anxiety, gerd or what. Why wife says I’m over thinking. It’s like yes that’s what anxiety is. Your brain won’t shut off… dude I have see a counselor. I have gotten an ultra sound of my stomach. No answers from doctors. So far from internet searching is maybe Covid triggered could IBS Sebo Gerd and they connect to the brain. Only things that’s helped is taking Xanax small doses (which I try not to take) h2 or (Allegra) h1 blockers Benadryl (only works sometimes). Sometimes antacids.

I am having my episode right now. It sucks! It’s how I found your post at 5am though. Please keep me posted if you find anything helpful and I will do the same. Let’s see if the power of two can help get us relief! Prayers!

REPLY
Profile picture for esikora @esikora

I've been dealing with anxiety/depression since traumatic life changes last year, including a cancer diagnosis.
I've been in therapy, but have resisted drugs. My anxiety now seems to come in"spells", including strange sleep disturbances and pre-dawn adrenaline rushes.
Every morning brings a kind of over whelming existential anxiety.
However...some days it dissipates randomly and I'm fine...even kind of happy. I try to hold on to the peaceful feelings, but of course I'm always fearing the return of the creepy spells.
So I guess my question is, does anxiety ever go away without drugs?
I do take supplements,exercise, do some meditation and yoga, and I know that these things help at least somewhat...
I'm just so tired of feeling psychologically "damaged".
Thanks for listening.

Jump to this post

I seriously think it’s gut or histamine related. I would try taking an h2 blocker and an antacid and see if it helps.

REPLY
Profile picture for help4meandu @help4meandu

I completely relate. I try listening to meditation stories on my phone but still no success unless I take more Benadryl and klonopin.

Jump to this post

H1 or h2 blockers Xanax… most helpful for me so far… antacid has helped to a bit… brain and gut are closely related. Trying to find hope. This is the best I can find so far. Please let me know if you find anything better…

REPLY
Profile picture for jnetweiss @jnetweiss

What a relief to find this thread. I’ve always had some anxiety, and am a therapist, as well.
A year ago, I was given too much estrogen and put on many different medications trying to deduce the issue (like calcium blockers, beta blockers, cortisol reducers/Ashwagadah), which all impacted my sensitive body.
My cycles were waking me throughout the night until I finally got .25 mg of Klonopin to sleep; brought up my vitamin D and found an estrogen/progesterone balance with bio-identical creams.
I now sleep really well and have brought my estrogen levels down, except for the one sneaky thing-these adrenal surges at 6/8 hours of sleep.
When I pandiculate and stretch or move, my heart rate increases to 110 and then lowers and adrenaline surges in cycles that last usually every hour upon waking. I have not had Covid. I have tried every trick in the book. And, ruled out adrenal tumors.
My dreams are pleasant but when this happens, it’s like my mind starts finding negativity to match the adrenal rushes. Then there is the shakes or teeth chattering and need to relieve myself to get rid of the adrenaline.
I’m trying to find more solutions, as I will not give up.
I found a nice 300mg cinnamon cbd oil from “Bottle and Stone” which helps to lower some reaction (because too much Benzos dump me down.)
Let’s keep helping each other because my endo/chiro/gyno/functional/
Primary/cardio/adrenal MDS have all been stumped.

Jump to this post

h2 blockers Xanax… most helpful for me so far… antacid has helped to a bit… brain and gut are closely related. This is the best I can find so far.trying to find hope. Please let me know if you find anything better…

REPLY
Profile picture for 5148branelly @5148branelly

Are you sure you were on 2-4 mg of clonazepam (Klonopin)? That is a huge dose! The usual starting dose for clonazepam is 0.25 mg. twice a day.
Clonazepam is in a drug category called “benzodiazepines,” which includes Valium, Ativan, Xanax and many others. These drugs can be very helpful in the treatment of anxiety. Anxious people, IMHO, tend to be “control freaks” which is not necessarily a bad thing. Yes, benzodiazepines can be mildly addictive, but from what I’ve observed, anxious people find the dose that works for them (usually a low dose) and stay on that dose that helps them. Oddly, from a chemical standpoint, anxious people don’t seem to reach tolerance on benzos. Tolerance is where a person takes a given dose, but in a short time, the drug is no longer effective and the dosage must be increased in order to get the same effect. Tolerance develops quickly with narcotics (=opiates).
An anxious person might need to be on a “their” dose of a benzo for years. If it is a reasonable and effective dose, I don’t see that as a problem.
With the help of a psychiatrist, find the dose that completely relieves the anxiety. Stay on that dose for 3-4 months (or forever if you like). Then start to taper slowly w/ the help of your psychiatrist. With say, Ativan, an anti-anxiety dose might be 1 mg three times a day. Once you’ve taken that for 3-4 months, begin a slow taper (about 0.25 mg a month) until you reach the dose at which the anxiety recurs. Increase the dose by 0.25 mg. That is “your” dose and you can stay on it indefinitely. A great deal of paranoia has developed about benzodiazepines. It is true that IN COMBINATION with other drugs, respiratory depression can occur. Even death might occur but chances are that it is caused by an opiate that was prescribed with a benzo.
On their own, benzos are among the safest of drugs. It is extremely hard to overdose on them and most cause virtually no side effects.
If you have had cancer (or some other major traumatic event) and believe that you are anxious about a recurrence, find a dr. that will work with you on this. During crises, you may find yourself needing to go back up a milligram or two, but when the crisis abates, taper (w/ a dr.) yourself back down to the minimal dose that works for you.
Gabapentin and Lyrica are drugs that can also be used for some types of anxiety.
But some of the substitutions for benzos that I’ve seen cause more trouble than they are worth—far more trouble than sticking with a low dose benzo might.
Some have been prescribing atypical anti-psychotics for anxiety and sleep. These drugs can help, but they can also cause EPS (extrapyramidal symptoms) which are disconcerting muscle movements that can be treated with Cogentin quickly and easily. Less pleasant side effects are tardive dyskinesia, which are involuntary muscle movements—like tapping a finger, twisting a hand, facial grimaces and tongue protrusion. Akathisia, which is involuntary foot tapping, may also occur. These can be helped somewhat with propranolol. Tardive dyskinesia is permanent though. I think few patients are told about the risks of using these drugs for any length of time, even as they are being excessively cautioned about benzos.
If you are anxious and/or depressed, individual psychotherapy can help. Group therapy and support can also be very helpful especially if you are taking the appropriate medication.

Jump to this post

The idea of taking Xanax for longer than a week scares the crap out of me. I take either half a .5 or .25 to sleep at most.

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.