Prostate Supplements

Posted by jayhall @jayhall, May 7 9:47am

My Urologist suggested I go on Prostate 2.4 by Theralogix has anyone taken this to help reduce your PSA and help shrink the Prostate. I'm considering going on this but I can't find anything that says it actually works.

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I hasve been taking their supplement called "Prosteon" for several years. It's a good mix of supplements fior just about anything, but especially Prostate Cancer survivors. My Urologist recommended it. Doctors who refer you get a 20% commission from Theralogix, according to their website.
https://theralogix.com/pages/partner

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@jayhall
jay, you might be interested in this K I'd looked at this product because it simplifies supplementation, although at elevated cost. This article://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/prostate-supplements-pdq lists separate supplements and what is considered in each of them. Soy, vitamin e, lycopene (if I remember) are in 2.4. And may help your decision.
Antioxidants interfere with radiation effect so the advice is to avoid them during treatment. Outside of treatment with radiation lycopene, D3 and magnesium are good choices.
Wishing you luck.

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I would research what is in the product. There are a lot of supplements that have studies saying they help and other studies saying they do not.

That makes it very hard on a patient to know what supplements have been shown to help. I do know that research going on at UFHPTI shows that antioxidants to help protect the cells. Now which one specifically help the prostrate. That is where the research and feedback is all over the place.

Good luck,

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Did anybody try himplasia by Himalaya drugs.I was told it reduces the size of Prostate

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Some material to look over and decide what if any are for you. I have found most places kind of cover a few standard ones, and much is not covered on big websites so you have to find articles and materials on your own. Another thing is not all supplements of the same name are equal, some may be poorly made. Then how much of a supplement, there are huge dose variations. Then another is pill fillers, some places use really awful fillers, binders and so on, so you have to find a more pure one. Most of that is never covered in articles or online materials.

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Boron
Boron Reduces Prostate Cancer Risk
Nothing Boring About Boron
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/
"has demonstrated preventive and therapeutic effects in a number of cancers, such as prostate, cervical, and lung cancers, and multiple and non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma"
Dietary boron intake and prostate cancer risk
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15010890/
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Neem, Ginger
Ginger
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3426621/
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jbt.22611
Neem
Neem components as potential agents for cancer prevention and treatment
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4734358/
Consumption of a bioactive compound from Neem plant could significantly suppress development of prostate cancer
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160929082202.htm
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Crinum Latifolium
Crinum Latifolium Leave Extracts Suppress Immune Activation Cascades in Peripheral Blood Mononuclear Cells and Proliferation of Prostate Tumor Cells:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3134856/
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CLA and modified citrus pectin
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14976130/
Both discussed:
https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/1999/10/report4
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Boswellia Serrata / Frankincense
https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/68/4/1180/542608/Acetyl-Keto-Boswellic-Acid-Induces-Apoptosis
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S000629520800172X
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Broccoli/Sulforaphane glucosinolate (SGS)
Broccoli Sprouts Delay Prostate Cancer Formation and Decrease Prostate Cancer Severity with a Concurrent Decrease in HDAC3 Protein Expression in Transgenic Adenocarcinoma of the Mouse Prostate (TRAMP) Mice
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6041877/
Sulforaphane in broccoli: The green chemoprevention!! Role in cancer prevention and therapy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7802872/
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Lycopene
The Potential Role of Lycopene for the Prevention and Therapy of Prostate Cancer: From Molecular Mechanisms to Clinical Evidence
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3742263/
Lycopene effects contributing to prostate health
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20155615/
Is there a benefit from lycopene supplementation in men with prostate cancer? A systematic review
https://www.nature.com/articles/pcan200938

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@satyasajja

Did anybody try himplasia by Himalaya drugs.I was told it reduces the size of Prostate

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Looking it up the main active ingredient seems to be just a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor (Arecanut), which you can get your doctor to give you a prescription for a pharmaceutical grade version of a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor (dutasteride for example) if you think that is the way to go. And for urinary symptoms d-mannose is a good option.

Here is an alternative to basic 5 alpha reductase inhibitors, though I would approach this one more cautiously:
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Diindolylmethane (DIM) or DIM sources/
A "good" DHT blocker that possibly leaves Total Testosterone alone - anti-excessive DHT
Examples:
(least pure) Broccoli powder (not seeds or sprouts) or broccoli extract
(mid-level form) Indole 3-carbinol
(purest form) DIM
DIM supposedly reduces DHT without reducing Free and total testosterone. This differs from 5-alpha reductase inhibitors which in some people stops working correctly (they may cause possible gonad damage, and other medical complications) and thus contribute to sexual dysfunction. DIM therefore is likely a good alternative for BPH and DIM is good where the DHT is in excess. It is possible it may not always work perfectly.
Indole 3-carbinol becomes DIM when ingested. It is found in Broccoli and cruciferous vegetables.
High dose DIM test on precursor to PCa
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4818865/
DIM basic info articles
The Benefits of DIM
https://fortwaynephysicalmedicine.com/blog/the-benefits-of-dim
What Are DIM Supplements? Benefits and More
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/dim-supplement
Take Care of Your Prostate Naturally
http://doctortrethart.com/show_art.php?isbn=16022011

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The prostate 2.4 formula has lycopene, but also a lot of soy, here is some discussion on soy:
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Soy or Phytoestrogens (soy products) - estrogen receptor blocking

On Soy there is a big debate. In general, I would say if your testosterone levels are higher Soy is a great idea, if testosterone levels are lower or lowish to moderate maybe think about Soy. Here is a break down:
The three estrogens to concern yourself with are regular estrogen, xenoestrogen (given off by plastic and various food containers touching food for example), and phytoestrogen. The first two are decided bad for prostates, and there is much debate about phytoestrogen pro and con. Phytoestrogen (soy included) in theory block estrogen receptors.

Pro Phytoestrogen side:
The Doctors show - Dr Kristi Funk says soy phytoestrogen blocks "beta estrogen receptors" which are the bad ones, thus reduces prostate cancer risk and breast cancer risk.


This is also in the ASPI video.
https://aspatients.org/meeting/eat-to-beat-prostate-disease/
Con Phytoestrogen side:
Others say Soy can very powerfully reduce the testosterone levels which likely will have significant negative effects in some or many people. It also has a very negative effect on thyroid hormone production which leads to many metabolic problems such as weight gain.
I can't say for sure what is right on soy products, might be very individual on testosterone level. Either case worry about xenoestrogen. Plastics can cause a kind of estrogen (xenoestrogen) that is real bad for prostate. So best to eliminate that as much as one can. Eliminate plastic touching food as much as possible or wash after they touch, bags, refrigerator containers, wraps, even non-stick coatings. As much as possible no plastic or plastic like items especially on hot food. Most coffee makers have plastics, preferably find one without as I have.
Also, if Soy sounds like a potential issue for you, then you can take as as anti-estrogen broccoli / SGS supplements or Calcium D-glucarate supplements. It isn't the same as Soy, which blocks estrogen receptors, so those have a differing method of action against estrogen, but all are anti-estrogens negative effects on prostate.

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