Help with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Posted by Sundance(RB) @sundance6, Feb 22, 2021

I need some help and advice with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome! I have been chasing Lyme Disease, Fibromyalgia for almost three years.
I recently read more about Chronic Fatigue syndrome. You can just about throw a blanket over the symptoms of all three, and they match. The information I've read was very helpful, but some symptoms and the way CFS works was very similar to what I have been experiencing.
Any help or reference material would be Greatly appreciated.
I'm seeing my PCP this Thursday. Would like to go in with some information.
From The Land of Enchantment!
Sundance(RB)

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@becsbuddy

@tigertotheend. Sounds like you’re having a terrible time with local doctors! Can I suggest that you try a comprehensive medical center or a university teaching hospital. The doctors seem to be 1 step ahead of most community doctors. Or Mayo Clinic has a group of country-wide hospitals. You can try going to one of them also, no referral needed. This website gives the locations of the hospitals.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/about-mayo-clinic/care-network/network-members
Have you considered Long Covid? Do you have a Long Covid center in your area?

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i do not know about long covid.....how do i check for local long covid centers? thank you...jim

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@becsbuddy

Hi, @sundance6 Haven’t heard from you in a while! I thought that maybe you were doing great, but I guess not.
Here is the information from Mayo Clinic about ME/CFS.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/chronic-fatigue-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20360490
When you see your PCP, you might ask if any hospital in your state has a program or clinic for ME/CFS. Mayo Clinic now has one, so others may, also.
What do you hope your doctor can do for you and CFS?

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first to find out what this is....as all the doctors have no opinion ...just if the tests do not tell them they go mum and then i ask what are they going to do and the reply is always....well, if the tests dont show anything then there is nothing i can do......so hoping a doctor can do something is beyond them as they themselves dont know much unless a machine tells them what to do....i already take 4 pills for the heart ... supplements like magnesium, vitamin b, potassium, iron, vitamin d.....morning and night.....so at this point i am totally not impressed with a doctor as i can go on the internet and put my info into the system and get more answers than from a live person claiming to be a doctor.....no wonder this AI is taking over as doctors are a good example of depending on a machine to tell them what to do.....

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@covidstinks2023

Sounds like you possibly may have what is called vaccine injury. Have you tried going to an Integrative Medicine Doctor (Eastern Medicine)? They think outside the box. That's who I had to go to and get treated for Long Covid. I am on many vitamins and am finally seeing some results. It's been 2 years. Several folks have listed their vaccine injury on her and the side effects. Many doctors are not versed in acknowledging this nor how to treat it. It's new to them.
I will try and find the vaccine injury comments and the side effects for you posted on this wonderful website.

Bless you and I will continue to pray for you. Keep me posted please.

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thank you for the info....what you are telling me i have never heard of especially from any of these doctors around here....so please communicate when you can and i will keep searching for help....jim

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@tigertotheend

thank you for the info....what you are telling me i have never heard of especially from any of these doctors around here....so please communicate when you can and i will keep searching for help....jim

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Jim, Look up in your area who treats COVID vaccine injury & Long COVID. The integrative medicine doctor may be the best route to ask about Covid Vaccine Injury. Google Integrative Medicine doctors in your state. Call around. I can't remember, but have you in fact had COVID? If so, I would check to see if there is a Long COVID Recovery Clinic near you. You can Google this as well.

Let me know if I can help any further. Praying for you.

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they said i had covid as i was tested 3 times a week for 6 weeks until a registered nurse friend of mine tested me privately and she said no that clinics and hospitals were getting kick backs from drug companies and the federal government to keep the covid thing going....so i dont know if i really had it or not as i did not have any symptoms of covid but i took those shots anyway.....thanks for the prayers ....jim

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Hi There! I am Partly Alive! Suffered a bout of Diverticulitis. Was real dumb! I waited for 5 days before i went to the hospital. Every bowel movement was a bowel full of Blood. When I finally went in and they did both a colonoscopy and endoscopy PCP has been doing Iron Infusion by IV.
Finally feeling a little better.
Still am really dizzy, short on breath, really in a Fog and am having trouble staying focused among other things!
Where would someone suggest I go on Mayo Connect to talk to others who have gone through this really has me baffled!
Can someone help?
Thanks,
Sundance ,aka RB

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@sundance6

Thank You! Very interesting article! Many things it talks about are what I experience.
Working with my PCP to get a heart monitor called I believe Hotler. We'll see what it comes up with.
As of last week I found a Daily Journal notebook that I can keep a record of how I am feeling all the time. I've modified it a bit to keep track of what I am eating, feeling and any medication I take. It's starting to so some interesting similarities in pain, fatigue and other things.
I've started to listen closer to my body! When it tells me I am on the edge, I walk aways from what I am doing and rest.
Thanks Will keep you posted!
From the Land of Enchantment!
Sundance(RB)

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Late to the post but perhaps this can help someone. I have been battling a Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & Fibromyalgia diagnosis since 2017. This coupled with Autoimmune Diseases and reactivated EBV. An infectious disease doctor first diagnosed me with CFS/ME, as it is seen as a disease of exclusion. So between infectious disease doc and an integrative med doc I ruled out every other possible cause for my debilitating symptoms. I fought the diagnosis for years hoping autoimmune disease or reacting EBV was my issue. In my experience doctors who go to traditional medical schools do not understand nor believe in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, they generally do not believe EBV reactivates and have little to no understanding of Fibromyalgia. Fibromyalgia has become a blanket diagnosis when they don’t know what you have and can offer no treatment. Like you I saw doc/Rheumatologist that thru out the Fibromyalgia diagnosis with no treatment plan other than exercise. Not listening to how sick I was. There are a few organizations/universities across the US that specialize in CFS/ME. You can not treat Fibro and CFS/ME the same as Post Exertional Malaise is huge part of CFS where with Fibromyalgia the docs always say excercise as part of treatment. They do not understand that exertion mental and physical will cause a CFS crash. Bateman Horne Center in Utah excellent resource for CFS/ME. Search the net and YouTube for doctors that understand the disease closest to you. I’m on east coast, NC and presently travel to Florida for treatment. Initially I went to Utah. Getting to a good specialist that has knowledge of disease will help you discover how bad you have it and they can offer some supplements/meds that treat your symptoms and support your mitochondrial health. They also will advise you on pacing and resting techniques to prevent crashes. If you have CFS the mitochondria in your cells can not create nor store energy correctly. So supplements that support mitochondrial heath are a good start. Good luck!!

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@steph24

Late to the post but perhaps this can help someone. I have been battling a Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & Fibromyalgia diagnosis since 2017. This coupled with Autoimmune Diseases and reactivated EBV. An infectious disease doctor first diagnosed me with CFS/ME, as it is seen as a disease of exclusion. So between infectious disease doc and an integrative med doc I ruled out every other possible cause for my debilitating symptoms. I fought the diagnosis for years hoping autoimmune disease or reacting EBV was my issue. In my experience doctors who go to traditional medical schools do not understand nor believe in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, they generally do not believe EBV reactivates and have little to no understanding of Fibromyalgia. Fibromyalgia has become a blanket diagnosis when they don’t know what you have and can offer no treatment. Like you I saw doc/Rheumatologist that thru out the Fibromyalgia diagnosis with no treatment plan other than exercise. Not listening to how sick I was. There are a few organizations/universities across the US that specialize in CFS/ME. You can not treat Fibro and CFS/ME the same as Post Exertional Malaise is huge part of CFS where with Fibromyalgia the docs always say excercise as part of treatment. They do not understand that exertion mental and physical will cause a CFS crash. Bateman Horne Center in Utah excellent resource for CFS/ME. Search the net and YouTube for doctors that understand the disease closest to you. I’m on east coast, NC and presently travel to Florida for treatment. Initially I went to Utah. Getting to a good specialist that has knowledge of disease will help you discover how bad you have it and they can offer some supplements/meds that treat your symptoms and support your mitochondrial health. They also will advise you on pacing and resting techniques to prevent crashes. If you have CFS the mitochondria in your cells can not create nor store energy correctly. So supplements that support mitochondrial heath are a good start. Good luck!!

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@steph24 Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! I’m glad you joined the site! Here is Mayo Clinic’s information on ME/CFS.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/chronic-fatigue-syndrome/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20360510. Mayo also, just opened a ME/CFS clinic. you might call their main number for information. I’m sure other members will respond to you and give you some helpful tips.

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@tigertotheend

first to find out what this is....as all the doctors have no opinion ...just if the tests do not tell them they go mum and then i ask what are they going to do and the reply is always....well, if the tests dont show anything then there is nothing i can do......so hoping a doctor can do something is beyond them as they themselves dont know much unless a machine tells them what to do....i already take 4 pills for the heart ... supplements like magnesium, vitamin b, potassium, iron, vitamin d.....morning and night.....so at this point i am totally not impressed with a doctor as i can go on the internet and put my info into the system and get more answers than from a live person claiming to be a doctor.....no wonder this AI is taking over as doctors are a good example of depending on a machine to tell them what to do.....

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but i am not giving up....thanks for the response as i will have some more when i get something going with another set of so called providers

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@steph24

Late to the post but perhaps this can help someone. I have been battling a Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & Fibromyalgia diagnosis since 2017. This coupled with Autoimmune Diseases and reactivated EBV. An infectious disease doctor first diagnosed me with CFS/ME, as it is seen as a disease of exclusion. So between infectious disease doc and an integrative med doc I ruled out every other possible cause for my debilitating symptoms. I fought the diagnosis for years hoping autoimmune disease or reacting EBV was my issue. In my experience doctors who go to traditional medical schools do not understand nor believe in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, they generally do not believe EBV reactivates and have little to no understanding of Fibromyalgia. Fibromyalgia has become a blanket diagnosis when they don’t know what you have and can offer no treatment. Like you I saw doc/Rheumatologist that thru out the Fibromyalgia diagnosis with no treatment plan other than exercise. Not listening to how sick I was. There are a few organizations/universities across the US that specialize in CFS/ME. You can not treat Fibro and CFS/ME the same as Post Exertional Malaise is huge part of CFS where with Fibromyalgia the docs always say excercise as part of treatment. They do not understand that exertion mental and physical will cause a CFS crash. Bateman Horne Center in Utah excellent resource for CFS/ME. Search the net and YouTube for doctors that understand the disease closest to you. I’m on east coast, NC and presently travel to Florida for treatment. Initially I went to Utah. Getting to a good specialist that has knowledge of disease will help you discover how bad you have it and they can offer some supplements/meds that treat your symptoms and support your mitochondrial health. They also will advise you on pacing and resting techniques to prevent crashes. If you have CFS the mitochondria in your cells can not create nor store energy correctly. So supplements that support mitochondrial heath are a good start. Good luck!!

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i am going to keep reading and noting your mail to me as there is a lot in there that is the first time me hearing as doctors will not communicate except if the test dont show i treat no mo....i tried out another primary doctor for the first time last week and in 5 minutes we were arguing about if the tests dont show then there is nothing he can do....that makes 11 doctors that have told me that and so i have spent several hours calling and talking to doctors and physician assistants and what i have found is that the insurance companies that insure doctors have put it to them that is they dont have a test or xray or mri or something like that to show for sure exactly what a patient has and what you treat them with then they will not insure....so...the AI is kicking in more and more now as some countries have already started robotics testing blood and prescribing not even seeing a human as what happened to my friend grandson as he went to japan to do some work and got sick and went to a clinic and he talked to a wall of dials and buttons and even gave a blood sample by sticking his finger in a gadget and then the machine told him to wait and a slip came out with a script on it and this of course after he put his yen into the machine and he went and got the script at a drug store and he took it and was cured so doctors are going to be in trouble when the AI fully kicks in....so i will do as you suggest and see what that brings up....thank you.....jim walley

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