Bone Coach - How do you know it works?

Posted by sheilad1 @sheilad1, Dec 13, 2022

I have seen several people here joined Bone Coach. How do you know your osteoperosis is better. The testimonials talk about general health improving which adherence to any healthy diet may have done the same.
There is no science shown. It's pricey but worth it if it works.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Osteoporosis & Bone Health Support Group.

@dianeelizabeth

So far I have found the following bone health experts who all have different program models. They all seem to focus on finding the root cause of your osteoporosis first and will look at your tests (individualized):

1. Bone Coach (Kevin Ellis)
2. Dr. Susan Brown
3. Dr. Doug Lucas
4. Dr. McCormick

There may be others. All of them seem to acknowledge that meds may be the best solution but looking at causes that might be corrected otherwise is a good first step.
I haven't started any program yet so I can't help with feedback. I would love to hear others experiences if they have because I am not sure which program to go with and they are all fairly costly.

Jump to this post

@dianeelizabeth, any MD worth their salt should look for primary causes first and that involves a full metabolic panel and a 24 hour urine at a minimum. It's amazing to me that some doctors don't start here as step one.

REPLY
@bettinaangela

Also, specifically what diet did you follow and did you take supplements (which)? I am vegetarian and probably was low on protein for some time (as well as magnesium). I am now drinking a protein shake (whey) and collagen peptide shake every day, upped my magnesium intake, added K2, and am continuing with vitamin D, calcium, vitamin C.

Jump to this post

Depending on what you mean by mild osteoporosis, I think you can make an impact with those improvements in nutrition, as long as you are also adding strength training. I have been vegetarian-ish for many years, but have always added fish and dairy (yogurt/cheese), and I recently added collagen peptides, but am not convinced it will matter much. Your supplements sound similar to mine. None of this has made my very low density nudge much in the past two years, but I am counting on stronger muscle to protect my bones and improved overall health. And babs is correct….any reputable doctor will investigate underlying issues first!

REPLY
@tilou

I dont know what everyone on these support groups think but I have never seen so many podcasts on the internet in my 84 years old life! I cannot comprehend what the motivation of those "fixers" is .
I maybe can imagine that they know more than we do but without proof that is usually impossible to check. Our fear is the culprit, so lets keep getting more educated with Mayo Clinic and ourselves. Thank you Mayo Clinic and you all the people here.

Jump to this post

@tilou, I can't attest to motivation either, but the pricing gives me suspicion.

REPLY

I bought the $500+ Bone Coach program and could not stick with it, because I could not get any cooperation from my doctor, who just wanted to prescribe meds, testing not an option. If you have a doc that will fully cooperate on the comprehensive testing, and money to cover the cost of the testing that your insurance will not cover, then it might be very useful. Or if you are just at the beginning of looking for answers. I just found trying to get a doc on board very stressful. I have stopped my bone loss, and recovered some density on my own, and would simply love to have support from a doc. But my PC and the Endo she sent me to just want to put me on drugs (without any testing of any sort beyond DEXA and a super basic metabolic panel) and I simply refuse. Mind you I already lift aggressively, eat well and am in very good condition otherwise, which is how my five years of improvement have happened. Good luck to you.

REPLY
@mlwh

I bought the $500+ Bone Coach program and could not stick with it, because I could not get any cooperation from my doctor, who just wanted to prescribe meds, testing not an option. If you have a doc that will fully cooperate on the comprehensive testing, and money to cover the cost of the testing that your insurance will not cover, then it might be very useful. Or if you are just at the beginning of looking for answers. I just found trying to get a doc on board very stressful. I have stopped my bone loss, and recovered some density on my own, and would simply love to have support from a doc. But my PC and the Endo she sent me to just want to put me on drugs (without any testing of any sort beyond DEXA and a super basic metabolic panel) and I simply refuse. Mind you I already lift aggressively, eat well and am in very good condition otherwise, which is how my five years of improvement have happened. Good luck to you.

Jump to this post

Hi there! Would you mind providing detailed specifics on your routines (supplements, foods you eat, exercises you do etc.). I am also in very good health and want to stop/reverse the osteopenia/osteoporosis that was just diagnosed. Thank you in advance!

REPLY
@bettinaangela

Hi there! Would you mind providing detailed specifics on your routines (supplements, foods you eat, exercises you do etc.). I am also in very good health and want to stop/reverse the osteopenia/osteoporosis that was just diagnosed. Thank you in advance!

Jump to this post

I took a year of group classes to learn to lift weights. Thankfully the teacher started me on very small weights and created a slow and steady progression for me. Initially we did 12 exercises, 2 each for chest, biceps, triceps, back, shoulders, and legs. We did 10 reps, and when that was easily accomplished, we moved up to a heavier weight. The class met Tue, Thur, and Sat, which helped me establish a gym habit. I spent time researching what might be dangerous for osteoporosis, and took my own safety in hand. I am now 70, and do most of my lifting at Planet Fitness, which is free through Silver Sneakers. My club has a trainer, and if I did not feel like I know what I am doing at this point, I would ask for free sessions with them. I have been lifting now for five years and still work all body parts, but emphasize exercises that I know load my spine, like squats, deadlifts, and overhead press. I lift every other day, so 3-4 times a week. On not lifting days I walk 2-3 miles and jog parts of the walk, keeping my heart rate in my middle target zone. On walking day I also do 20 minutes of core on the floor before breakfast to be sure I can brace to lift safely. I take a daily multi-vitamin and use My Fitness Pal to track all my food, especially my macros, making sure that I get 20-25% of my calories as protein. My apple watch reports my activity and calorie burn directly to the app. When I started exercising seriously I lost weight and have to track to eat enough to stay healthy. I take no other supplements, but have been considering collagen, because eating that connective tissue is not my favorite, lol. I prioritize healthy fats like salmon and olive oil and avocados, nuts and seeds. I eat very little processed food, I visit my local DEXAfit 3x a year, to monitor my muscle mass and fat mass, and also for the ballpark T-score it provides. I score an A+ rating there, with respect to body composition. The average for my age is a C+. Get help with starting to lift if you do not already. It's not rocket science, but it's better to learn correct technique from the beginning. That's kind of a random list, and I know you asked for specifics, but I hope you find it helpful!

REPLY
@mlwh

I took a year of group classes to learn to lift weights. Thankfully the teacher started me on very small weights and created a slow and steady progression for me. Initially we did 12 exercises, 2 each for chest, biceps, triceps, back, shoulders, and legs. We did 10 reps, and when that was easily accomplished, we moved up to a heavier weight. The class met Tue, Thur, and Sat, which helped me establish a gym habit. I spent time researching what might be dangerous for osteoporosis, and took my own safety in hand. I am now 70, and do most of my lifting at Planet Fitness, which is free through Silver Sneakers. My club has a trainer, and if I did not feel like I know what I am doing at this point, I would ask for free sessions with them. I have been lifting now for five years and still work all body parts, but emphasize exercises that I know load my spine, like squats, deadlifts, and overhead press. I lift every other day, so 3-4 times a week. On not lifting days I walk 2-3 miles and jog parts of the walk, keeping my heart rate in my middle target zone. On walking day I also do 20 minutes of core on the floor before breakfast to be sure I can brace to lift safely. I take a daily multi-vitamin and use My Fitness Pal to track all my food, especially my macros, making sure that I get 20-25% of my calories as protein. My apple watch reports my activity and calorie burn directly to the app. When I started exercising seriously I lost weight and have to track to eat enough to stay healthy. I take no other supplements, but have been considering collagen, because eating that connective tissue is not my favorite, lol. I prioritize healthy fats like salmon and olive oil and avocados, nuts and seeds. I eat very little processed food, I visit my local DEXAfit 3x a year, to monitor my muscle mass and fat mass, and also for the ballpark T-score it provides. I score an A+ rating there, with respect to body composition. The average for my age is a C+. Get help with starting to lift if you do not already. It's not rocket science, but it's better to learn correct technique from the beginning. That's kind of a random list, and I know you asked for specifics, but I hope you find it helpful!

Jump to this post

Very helpful!!! Thanks a bunch!

REPLY
@bettinaangela

Very helpful!!! Thanks a bunch!

Jump to this post

You're welcome! Forgot to add I drink 3 glasses of skim milk and a big serving of plain Greek Yogurt for my calcium!

REPLY
@mlwh

I took a year of group classes to learn to lift weights. Thankfully the teacher started me on very small weights and created a slow and steady progression for me. Initially we did 12 exercises, 2 each for chest, biceps, triceps, back, shoulders, and legs. We did 10 reps, and when that was easily accomplished, we moved up to a heavier weight. The class met Tue, Thur, and Sat, which helped me establish a gym habit. I spent time researching what might be dangerous for osteoporosis, and took my own safety in hand. I am now 70, and do most of my lifting at Planet Fitness, which is free through Silver Sneakers. My club has a trainer, and if I did not feel like I know what I am doing at this point, I would ask for free sessions with them. I have been lifting now for five years and still work all body parts, but emphasize exercises that I know load my spine, like squats, deadlifts, and overhead press. I lift every other day, so 3-4 times a week. On not lifting days I walk 2-3 miles and jog parts of the walk, keeping my heart rate in my middle target zone. On walking day I also do 20 minutes of core on the floor before breakfast to be sure I can brace to lift safely. I take a daily multi-vitamin and use My Fitness Pal to track all my food, especially my macros, making sure that I get 20-25% of my calories as protein. My apple watch reports my activity and calorie burn directly to the app. When I started exercising seriously I lost weight and have to track to eat enough to stay healthy. I take no other supplements, but have been considering collagen, because eating that connective tissue is not my favorite, lol. I prioritize healthy fats like salmon and olive oil and avocados, nuts and seeds. I eat very little processed food, I visit my local DEXAfit 3x a year, to monitor my muscle mass and fat mass, and also for the ballpark T-score it provides. I score an A+ rating there, with respect to body composition. The average for my age is a C+. Get help with starting to lift if you do not already. It's not rocket science, but it's better to learn correct technique from the beginning. That's kind of a random list, and I know you asked for specifics, but I hope you find it helpful!

Jump to this post

I'm curious if you have had an updated scan and if your scores have improved.

REPLY
@mlwh

I took a year of group classes to learn to lift weights. Thankfully the teacher started me on very small weights and created a slow and steady progression for me. Initially we did 12 exercises, 2 each for chest, biceps, triceps, back, shoulders, and legs. We did 10 reps, and when that was easily accomplished, we moved up to a heavier weight. The class met Tue, Thur, and Sat, which helped me establish a gym habit. I spent time researching what might be dangerous for osteoporosis, and took my own safety in hand. I am now 70, and do most of my lifting at Planet Fitness, which is free through Silver Sneakers. My club has a trainer, and if I did not feel like I know what I am doing at this point, I would ask for free sessions with them. I have been lifting now for five years and still work all body parts, but emphasize exercises that I know load my spine, like squats, deadlifts, and overhead press. I lift every other day, so 3-4 times a week. On not lifting days I walk 2-3 miles and jog parts of the walk, keeping my heart rate in my middle target zone. On walking day I also do 20 minutes of core on the floor before breakfast to be sure I can brace to lift safely. I take a daily multi-vitamin and use My Fitness Pal to track all my food, especially my macros, making sure that I get 20-25% of my calories as protein. My apple watch reports my activity and calorie burn directly to the app. When I started exercising seriously I lost weight and have to track to eat enough to stay healthy. I take no other supplements, but have been considering collagen, because eating that connective tissue is not my favorite, lol. I prioritize healthy fats like salmon and olive oil and avocados, nuts and seeds. I eat very little processed food, I visit my local DEXAfit 3x a year, to monitor my muscle mass and fat mass, and also for the ballpark T-score it provides. I score an A+ rating there, with respect to body composition. The average for my age is a C+. Get help with starting to lift if you do not already. It's not rocket science, but it's better to learn correct technique from the beginning. That's kind of a random list, and I know you asked for specifics, but I hope you find it helpful!

Jump to this post

@mlwhm, sounds like a great system which you have down pat! Good for you!

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.