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Is there any legit, peer-reviewed, NIH studies about supplements

Posted by ericy210 @ericy210, Jun 9 5:54pm

I’ve had the good fortune to find this place and the bad fortune to still be here 2+ years later.
As we’ve been on this journey, I’ve read lots of comments to try various supplements, vitamins, extracts, foods, roots, etc. is there any solid evidence that any of it works? In my marketing world, it’s legally okay to say, “this $300 eye cream moisturizes skin by 2X * and contains vitamins and horse meat extract, which are known to provide nutrients.” The asterisk will lead to the fine print below “vs. and ordinary cream” and the sentence is structured to not say the vitamins and horse meat are at active levels to do anything. That would require FDA approval. Many supplements say, “not approved by the FDA to blah, blah, blah.” It’s not proven to be bad, it just hasn’t been through the lengthy and expensive process of FDA 510K. Operation Warp Speed shortened the process.
I can read data on the value of an appropriate diet and believe “eastern medicine” or old Native American “rituals” have knowledge that’s different and probably as good or better than some “western medicine.” Any reputable info out there that isn’t just “pixie dust,” as it’s known in marketing? (Meaning it sounds good but does nothing)

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covidstinks2023 | @covidstinks2023 | Jun 9 9:40pm

ericy210, You hit the nail on the head! Vitamins and Supplements have been trial & error with me for Long Covid. I have certain companies that I buy from that seem to work better. I prefer Pure Encapsulation, Thorne, Carlson, NOW & Micro Ingredients brand of vitamins. All of these can be ordered on Amazon.

Recommendations can be overwhelming & costly. Personally, I trust my pharmacist & Integrative Medicine doctor about the best supplements for Long Covid.

Peoplespharmacy.com is a very trustworthy source for vitamin and supplement reviews. It's free to sign on with them and get their newsletter & podcasts ever how many times a week you want them.

Blessings to you and I hope you find your answers.

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John, Volunteer Mentor | @johnbishop | Jun 10 7:38am

Not sure exactly what you are looking for but here are a few research papers I've found.

-- Dietary Supplements and COVID-19: https://covid19.nih.gov/news-and-stories/dietary-supplements-and-covid-19
-- Supplements for the Treatment of Mild COVID-19—Challenging Health Beliefs With Science From A to Z:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2776299
-- The published trend of studies on COVID-19 and dietary supplements: Bibliometric analysis:
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/immunology/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2022.1065724/full

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dloos | @dloos | Jun 10 12:04pm

As far as the NIH is concerned, I think pretty worthless with regard to long Covid. I suppose they are collecting data, but no answers for those of us who suffer.

Research goes at a snail’s pace and I suspect I will be long gone before there are any answers....(If there are ever answers).
No vitamin or supplement has helped me, and believe me, I have tried MANY.

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mama.aloha | @mamaaloha | Jun 11 2:56am

Has anyone tried this aromatherapy to help with post-COVID fatigue? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8949693/

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kayabbott | @kayabbott | Jun 11 8:19am
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@dloos

As far as the NIH is concerned, I think pretty worthless with regard to long Covid. I suppose they are collecting data, but no answers for those of us who suffer.

Research goes at a snail’s pace and I suspect I will be long gone before there are any answers....(If there are ever answers).
No vitamin or supplement has helped me, and believe me, I have tried MANY.

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Covid and LC are new, meaning WTF what do we use as analogs. Research science is slow and methodical, organizing the study, collecting enough subjects/samples, analysis, and publication take years. That plus bureaucrats interfering with science are reasons why past advising people on masks/distance/closings/etc. was like tossing a lot of cats into a bag. Science will have answers for covid and long covid (LC), but it will take months and years. I am a research scientist, and got covid March 2023; my LC lasted for 8 months and is almost gone now. I just get some glimmerings of fatigue and don't have as much endurance as before; maybe some of that is turning 70 and having multiple autoimmune diseases. I managed LC by managing stress, sleeping, and exercise in bits followed by rest. I already had a constrained mostly FODMAP diet due to celiac. I've kept a food log for many years and didn't find any correlation between what I ate and how I felt, at least regarding LC. Were someone to have a food intolerance, LC would likely be harder because of a ramped up immune response. Celiac can be asymptomatic or have any of a couple of hundred symptoms when glutened; it is controlled by not eating wheat, rye, or barley. I suspect that LC will be as complex but hopefully more info on how to minimize or end it is in the pipe. Did I mention that research scientists tend to be verbose?

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klehker | @klehker | Jun 11 1:56pm
In reply to @kayabbott "Covid and LC are new, meaning WTF what do we use as analogs. Research science is..." + (show)
@kayabbott

Covid and LC are new, meaning WTF what do we use as analogs. Research science is slow and methodical, organizing the study, collecting enough subjects/samples, analysis, and publication take years. That plus bureaucrats interfering with science are reasons why past advising people on masks/distance/closings/etc. was like tossing a lot of cats into a bag. Science will have answers for covid and long covid (LC), but it will take months and years. I am a research scientist, and got covid March 2023; my LC lasted for 8 months and is almost gone now. I just get some glimmerings of fatigue and don't have as much endurance as before; maybe some of that is turning 70 and having multiple autoimmune diseases. I managed LC by managing stress, sleeping, and exercise in bits followed by rest. I already had a constrained mostly FODMAP diet due to celiac. I've kept a food log for many years and didn't find any correlation between what I ate and how I felt, at least regarding LC. Were someone to have a food intolerance, LC would likely be harder because of a ramped up immune response. Celiac can be asymptomatic or have any of a couple of hundred symptoms when glutened; it is controlled by not eating wheat, rye, or barley. I suspect that LC will be as complex but hopefully more info on how to minimize or end it is in the pipe. Did I mention that research scientists tend to be verbose?

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Hello Kayabbott - Writing just because I was struck by our similarities: same covid/LC timing, same age, same multiple autoimmune diseases including Celiac, same LC management approaches. My LC was much improved until I got covid again in December, then back in the thick of LC symptoms, slooowwwly improving now. I am accordingly terrified of getting covid again (am also immune compromised due to a kidney transplant). Nice to touch base, and hope you continue to improve!

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kayabbott | @kayabbott | Jun 11 7:22pm
In reply to @klehker "Hello Kayabbott - Writing just because I was struck by our similarities: same covid/LC timing, same..." + (show)
@klehker

Hello Kayabbott - Writing just because I was struck by our similarities: same covid/LC timing, same age, same multiple autoimmune diseases including Celiac, same LC management approaches. My LC was much improved until I got covid again in December, then back in the thick of LC symptoms, slooowwwly improving now. I am accordingly terrified of getting covid again (am also immune compromised due to a kidney transplant). Nice to touch base, and hope you continue to improve!

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That sucks regarding getting covid again and dealing with LC. I hope you get back to pre-covid, but recoveries are so slow and having to take life in pieces with rest between is hard.

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friedrich | @friedrich | Aug 21 12:09pm
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@johnbishop

Not sure exactly what you are looking for but here are a few research papers I've found.

-- Dietary Supplements and COVID-19: https://covid19.nih.gov/news-and-stories/dietary-supplements-and-covid-19
-- Supplements for the Treatment of Mild COVID-19—Challenging Health Beliefs With Science From A to Z:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2776299
-- The published trend of studies on COVID-19 and dietary supplements: Bibliometric analysis:
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/immunology/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2022.1065724/full

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Thank you for posting these links to science-based reports on the role of supplements in treating Long Covid. These are the kind of reports that I seek out in my own research on my Long Covid symptoms and potential treatments for them.

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mclelland1958 | @mclelland1958 | Aug 26 9:52am
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@dloos

As far as the NIH is concerned, I think pretty worthless with regard to long Covid. I suppose they are collecting data, but no answers for those of us who suffer.

Research goes at a snail’s pace and I suspect I will be long gone before there are any answers....(If there are ever answers).
No vitamin or supplement has helped me, and believe me, I have tried MANY.

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My integrated medicine doctor suggested I try MiTOQ. You can find it on Amazon. I have taken it for a week so far have noticed that I am more alert and have a little more energy.

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