Any thoughts on using a system with Pouch liners?

Posted by xxxlt @xxxlt, Apr 16 2:58pm

I have ileostomy and use Convetec Natura, which I really like, no issues at all. I recently saw an add for a pouch liner, described as when ready throw liner away, insert a new one and your on your way, this can be a game changer. Convetec does not make such a liner. Any thoughts on a system that does have a liner and is as easy to use as Convetec Natura?Thanks, Terry

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windyshores | @windyshores | Apr 16 8:11pm

We used disposable two piece systems for colostomy. Do you have access to those at Convatec?

xxxlt | @xxxlt | Apr 16 8:18pm

Is that something other than Natura?

windyshores | @windyshores | Apr 16 8:29pm

In reply to @xxxlt "Is that something other than Natura?" + (show)

This is what we used, with and without a filter

ConvaTec Natura+ Two Piece Closed End Ostomy Pouch, Without Filter,

I am not sure I am allowed to post a link. You can google it. The disposable pouch snaps onto the barrier and gets removed 2-3 times/day. Then a new pouch is snapped on.

The ileostomy page has a barrier for this system but the pouches look like they are all drainable rather than disposable. I would call the company. They have nurses and staff who are very very helpful.

hardingv | @hardingv | Apr 17 4:37pm

I suspect you saw something like this disposable liner:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VS1P53W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If you are looking for a disposable liner I think you need to buy that separately.

I tried this one (after seeing it on a YouTube video), which is described as biodegradable. Well, about the third one I tried degraded inside my Hollister pouch with the bottom dissolving. That was it for me!

susan_f | @susanbfoster | Apr 22 10:02am

The liners are really made for use with a colostomy, not an ileostomy. The idea is that with your once or twice a day stool you can take off the closed pouch, throw away the liner and stool and put the closed pouch back on. I suspect it would be very messy with an ileostomy.

xxxlt | @xxxlt | Apr 22 10:06am

Thank you, I always look for an easier more convient way. Terry

ams | @ams | Jun 1 1:23pm

I tried the liner for one time. I didn't think about the bag for about 5 hours. I went to change the liner bag. The liner had already dissolved. So I never did the liner again.

xxxlt | @xxxlt | Jun 1 6:11pm

I pretty much have given up on the liner idea. The idea is wonderful but it needs some design work. I am safisfied with my two piece convetec system, with the exeception of burping it several times a day, again needs some design work. I tuly feel if those who are in R and D for the various manufacturers of products had a bag at their side they would more aggressive with there development. Until then, it is what it is!!