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Asymptomatic (silent) AFib

Heart Rhythm Conditions | Last Active: Apr 11 12:38pm | Replies (29)

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I'm trying to understand your comment about the heart failure being a proximal result of AF. That is to say, it happened, so the AF couldn't have gone on for long. In fact, heart failure doesn't typically happen in untreated AF patients for many months or years. There really is no practical way to attribute heart failure to any coincident AF because the two are only somewhat causally linked; there are other disorders that can lead to heart failure, such as defective heart valves and a poor ejection fraction.
Even so, my first incident of AF didn't leave me feeling unwell, but the second incident, about six weeks later, had me puffing and feeling like I was in serious trouble, at which the ER staff rushed me right in, no triage necessary. I can't explain that one bout of AF and how it affected me because two years later, when things had been in good control and I had been largely free of even intermittent/paroxysmal AF, suddenly I began to get lots of AF. But none of those many events, maybe 100 over the next year, left me feeling the same way, out of breath, faint, feeling of doom, etc.

I hope my comment isn't confusing...I intend only to point out that, if he does have heart failure, it would mean that it was from another problem, or that his AF,...IF...it was the cause, must have been uncontrolled, undetected, and in place for months, possibly well over a year.

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I appreciate your thoughts... and yes I agree. However, I didn't want to point this out because it causes a stir in most instances. And- typically AFib doesn't cause Heart Failure. But, in our instance- it most certainly did. They say it all started due to Viral Myocarditis.
No Dr. will say it- but to anyone that has not been living under a rock, in a cave, or in the deep jungle somewhere since 2020- it's obvious what virus is was.
He also got his last Moderna a few weeks before he got sick enough to go to the ER. He has noooooo other heart abnormalities and never touched drugs in his life...not even tobacco. We got sick and tired of explaining that he has never used drugs. Because apparently- IV drug use increased risk of Cardiomyopathy.
Another big difference in his and your story is that his never Afib never stopped.
So- this is what happened---- the virus or the shot-Cardiomyopathy- arrhythmias- Heart Failure/EF 11-Clots in his left upper appendage-BOOM-clot(s) moved--- Stroke #1- Ischemic. Stroke #2 a few hours later (after all the strokes deficits pretty well subsided)- Hemorrhagic due to the tPA.
I also know that he couldn't have possibly gotten through the week in the mountains- he helped take care of 60 middle and high school students.
(1 golf cart for the whole crew. So lots of walking. We slept in tents and cooked on a the big grill that we hauled in there) He was in great health at the time- end of July 2021. November of 21. he finished what may be his last 5th Grade lesson plan and then we took him to the ER. In him the Afib most definitely lead to Heart Failure.
Thank you for helping clarify.